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City Transfer News: Javi Guerra close to Malaga move after a day of meetings
15:44, 14 JULY 2015

Cardiff City's want-away striker Javi Guerra seems close to completing his move to Malaga after a day of intense negotiations




Interesting statement off his agent!

"The goal was to find a point of agreement. Cardiff do not require his services while the striker's preference is to return to Malaga.

“Cardiff are unwilling to provide the money Guerra wants to leave the club and the attacker does not want to pick up too much of the tab.

Hmmmmm

Interesting statement off his agent!

"The goal was to find a point of agreement. Cardiff do not require his services while the striker's preference is to return to Malaga.

“Cardiff are unwilling to provide the money Guerra wants to leave the club and the attacker does not want to pick up too much of the tab.

Maybe its this type of attitude from the player, that has seen him get limited chances in the team. It looks like one of those scenarios where the player feels that he has done nothing wrong in not being picked, yet the management have not seen enough from him to warrant a place. He feels that he is blameless, so why should he lose money on the contract he signed. Who knows who is in the wrong? If it was me, I would look at the big picture and take the hit, if it meant going somewhere (Malaga) where I was wanted and could play regular football. He is hardly going to be destitute. If he could not get a move anywhere, then that may be a different story and I would have some sympathy for him.

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

Spot on. Guerra was the best striker at the club but never given a chance! In the short time he had on the pitch looked a totally different class. He did more in 5 mins than Macheda etc would do in 90. Shame that it never worked out.

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

Spot on Steve

Actually it seems that he wants his contract paid up, although he will walk straight into another club who will pay his wages, penny and the bun springs to mind

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

What?

Guerra gets a good contract and we should pay HIM to get out of it.

Whoever wants rid the most will take the hit. If the club are holding out to not pay him off then it is up to Guerra to take the hit.

But if the club want him gone they will pay up.

Whichever way you look at it whoever is more desperate should take the hit and at the moment the agent seems to be making the waves and desperate for something to happen.

Actually it seems that he wants his contract paid up, although he will walk straight into another club who will pay his wages, penny and the bun springs to mind

Yep these players live in another world.

If he wants us to pay him up till the end of his contract then he can stay and not play

I will state this, Guerra is going to take a pay cut to leave us,just so he can play first team football

Fair play to Guerra and you will once again be playing in one of the best Leagues in the world,can't fault you :



Proven quality striker

There's nice of him to take a pay cut when his agent is asking for his contract to be paid up to a level that suits him.

If the club want him gone enough they will pay him up. Will he cut his loses though if he doesn't get a chunk to leave?

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From what his agent is saying the player is prepared to take a "hit" in respect to the difference in the value of his contract with Cardiff City and what he will earn at Malaga.

In fairness to the man he is prepared to move on and take a pay cut in the process and, in my opinion, it is now down to the club to come to a reasonable settlement with him to allow his contract with Cardiff City to be cancelled "By Mutual Consent".

Time for the club to step up to the plate and take their share of the responsibility for this sorry situation.

From what his agent is saying the player is prepared to take a "hit" in respect to the difference in the value of his contract with Cardiff City and what he will earn at Malaga.

In fairness to the man he is prepared to move on and take a pay cut in the process and, in my opinion, it is now down to the club to come to a reasonable settlement with him to allow his contract with Cardiff City to be cancelled "By Mutual Consent".

Time for the club to step up to the plate and take their share of the responsibility for this sorry situation.

Not really, what if the club feel that they have been the ones who have suffered with this transfer and have already taken the hit? The fact is that 3 managers have not been prepared to pick him. Just maybe, the guy has been homesick since walking through the door and just doesn't show anything in training. Maybe he sulks all the time, who knows?
He has a club to go to, now he should just make the move before the opportunity disappears. How so called supporters can back a player against our club, who has hardly kicked a ball for us and say he's the best striker at the club, is just pathetic and an indication of how bitter our once proud supporters have become.

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

So let me get this straight are you 2 actually wanting us to pay up guerra contract so he can go and sign for Malaga and get paid there aswell as getting a pay off from us
Annis I thought you were totally against our club throwing / wasting money if we have to pay up his contract then we might aswell keep him and make him see out his contract playing for the reserves
It's about time clubs took back some control
Players have it too much there own way

I really do not get this
he wants to leave so why should we pay him
it ain't our fault malaga are skint and not willing to pay us a fee or him a signing on fee
we have Done the right thing in saying he can go for no fee as if he is as good as everyone thinks we should be demanding a fee

From what his agent is saying the player is prepared to take a "hit" in respect to the difference in the value of his contract with Cardiff City and what he will earn at Malaga.

In fairness to the man he is prepared to move on and take a pay cut in the process and, in my opinion, it is now down to the club to come to a reasonable settlement with him to allow his contract with Cardiff City to be cancelled "By Mutual Consent".

Time for the club to step up to the plate and take their share of the responsibility for this sorry situation.

Not really, what if the club feel that they have been the ones who have suffered with this transfer and have already taken the hit? The fact is that 3 managers have not been prepared to pick him. Just maybe, the guy has been homesick since walking through the door and just doesn't show anything in training. Maybe he sulks all the time, who knows?
He has a club to go to, now he should just make the move before the opportunity disappears. How so called supporters can back a player against our club, who has hardly kicked a ball for us and say he's the best striker at the club, is just pathetic and an indication of how bitter our once proud supporters have become.

I just think it hasn't worked out for him at our club, for whatever reason, and things like that happen, Le Fondre is another example. If there had been any poor behaviour on the players behalf then surely the club would have dealt with that through a disciplinary process, but as far as I know there have been no problems of attitude or application by the player. If anything he has been isolated by Russell Slade who excluded him from his original squad of 20 players he selected when he took over.

The club came to an agreement with Juan Cala to end his contract after he went on social media complaining about how he was being treated, within days he was released by "Mutual Consent" thanking VT for everything he had done, a clear sign in my opinion he was paid off on the condition he said VT was wonderful.

Javi Guerra by comparison has been grown up about the whole experience and appears only to be asking for a reasonable settlement to his contract. I have a great deal of respect for the man as he is prepared to move on, take a pay cut and lose out on the whole balance of his contract with Cardiff City.

If nothing else we should respect the dignity Javi Guerra is showing compared to say Cala.

From what his agent is saying the player is prepared to take a "hit" in respect to the difference in the value of his contract with Cardiff City and what he will earn at Malaga.

In fairness to the man he is prepared to move on and take a pay cut in the process and, in my opinion, it is now down to the club to come to a reasonable settlement with him to allow his contract with Cardiff City to be cancelled "By Mutual Consent".

Time for the club to step up to the plate and take their share of the responsibility for this sorry situation.

Not really, what if the club feel that they have been the ones who have suffered with this transfer and have already taken the hit? The fact is that 3 managers have not been prepared to pick him. Just maybe, the guy has been homesick since walking through the door and just doesn't show anything in training. Maybe he sulks all the time, who knows?
He has a club to go to, now he should just make the move before the opportunity disappears. How so called supporters can back a player against our club, who has hardly kicked a ball for us and say he's the best striker at the club, is just pathetic and an indication of how bitter our once proud supporters have become.

I just think it hasn't worked out for him at our club, for whatever reason, and things like that happen, Le Fondre is another example. If there had been any poor behaviour on the players behalf then surely the club would have dealt with that through a disciplinary process, but as far as I know there have been no problems of attitude or application by the player. If anything he has been isolated by Russell Slade who excluded him from his original squad of 20 players he selected when he took over.

The club came to an agreement with Juan Cala to end his contract after he went on social media complaining about how he was being treated, within days he was released by "Mutual Consent" thanking VT for everything he had done, a clear sign in my opinion he was paid off on the condition he said VT was wonderful.

Javi Guerra by comparison has been grown up about the whole experience and appears only to be asking for a reasonable settlement to his contract. I have a great deal of respect for the man as he is prepared to move on, take a pay cut and lose out on the whole balance of his contract with Cardiff City.

If nothing else we should respect the dignity Javi Guerra is showing compared to say Cala.

How do you get a pay off from a mutually agreed parting
Or are you privy to private negotiations
Or are you just itk or guessing or making things up

From what his agent is saying the player is prepared to take a "hit" in respect to the difference in the value of his contract with Cardiff City and what he will earn at Malaga.

In fairness to the man he is prepared to move on and take a pay cut in the process and, in my opinion, it is now down to the club to come to a reasonable settlement with him to allow his contract with Cardiff City to be cancelled "By Mutual Consent".

Time for the club to step up to the plate and take their share of the responsibility for this sorry situation.

Not really, what if the club feel that they have been the ones who have suffered with this transfer and have already taken the hit? The fact is that 3 managers have not been prepared to pick him. Just maybe, the guy has been homesick since walking through the door and just doesn't show anything in training. Maybe he sulks all the time, who knows?
He has a club to go to, now he should just make the move before the opportunity disappears. How so called supporters can back a player against our club, who has hardly kicked a ball for us and say he's the best striker at the club, is just pathetic and an indication of how bitter our once proud supporters have become.

I just think it hasn't worked out for him at our club, for whatever reason, and things like that happen, Le Fondre is another example. If there had been any poor behaviour on the players behalf then surely the club would have dealt with that through a disciplinary process, but as far as I know there have been no problems of attitude or application by the player. If anything he has been isolated by Russell Slade who excluded him from his original squad of 20 players he selected when he took over.

The club came to an agreement with Juan Cala to end his contract after he went on social media complaining about how he was being treated, within days he was released by "Mutual Consent" thanking VT for everything he had done, a clear sign in my opinion he was paid off on the condition he said VT was wonderful.

Javi Guerra by comparison has been grown up about the whole experience and appears only to be asking for a reasonable settlement to his contract. I have a great deal of respect for the man as he is prepared to move on, take a pay cut and lose out on the whole balance of his contract with Cardiff City.

If nothing else we should respect the dignity Javi Guerra is showing compared to say Cala.

How do you get a pay off from a mutually agreed parting
Or are you privy to private negotiations
Or are you just itk or guessing or making things up

I make absolutely no claim to be ITK or to be privy to "Private Negotiations" which in respect of the subject being debated I don't understand. The detail of any mutually agreed severance deal would almost certainly contain a confidentiality clause which would prevent either party to the agreement disclosing details without the permission of the other party. Privacy protects access to the person and confidentiality protects access to the detail of the agreement so in this respect we are talking about confidentiality.

But one thing is certain and that is to reach a "Mutual Consent Agreement" then the employer, in this case Cardiff City Football Club, reach agreement with their employee, in this case the player to leave the club voluntarily in return for a severance payment. Agreements like this help the club reduce costs as the payment will absolutely save the business money whilst allowing the player to move on to another club.

These type of agreements are commonplace and not only in football and I'm neither guessing or making things up. It's just a fact of life.

So the mutually agreed agreement could quite concievably been as follows
We will let you go to another club for no fee and you will forgo your contract with us
Mutual agreement yes pay off no

Actually it seems that he wants his contract paid up, although he will walk straight into another club who will pay his wages, penny and the bun springs to mind

Absolutely spot on....in what other industry does an employee go to his boss saying he wants to go and work for someone else so can you give me two years pay so that I can go please????

So the mutually agreed agreement could quite concievably been as follows
We will let you go to another club for no fee and you will forgo your contract with us
Mutual agreement yes pay off no

Looking at what his agent is saying that pretty much sums up the clubs stance at the moment but of course there is no mutual agreement otherwise JG would already be gone. The club, in my opinion, is playing hardball over this and Malaga is sitting back hoping to get a proven experienced player for nothing. JG on the other hand wants to leave and is prepared to take a cut in pay to sign for Malaga and he is now looking to get a % of the balance of the value of his contract. I believe that eventually a mutually acceptable agreement will be reached the details of which WILL be confidential and at that stage the club will announce he has left by "Mutual Consent".

I suspect that JG is on a decent wage and when he leaves it will release a decent amount of money which will allow RS to bring in other players without breaking the budget he has been given. The club have said they will support him during this transfer window so I wish they would just get on with this and get it done.

I'm sure RS would appreciate this being brought to a close as much as JG.

Why won't Malaga pay him equal to the wages he gets at City? Maybe he just isn't worth the wages. If he wants to go, and is as he says prepared to take hit , then let him take the hit and stop trying to milk us.
He wants to choose where he goes, and have us subsidise him. Sending a very poor message to other players if we agree to roll over to this.

No wonder we are losing millions- hate to say it, but it is about time we started to get a grip of wages. If we are paying JG £20k a week more than he is worth, we are paying £1m a year above market rates. Just for one player.

So the mutually agreed agreement could quite concievably been as follows
We will let you go to another club for no fee and you will forgo your contract with us
Mutual agreement yes pay off no

Looking at what his agent is saying that pretty much sums up the clubs stance at the moment but of course there is no mutual agreement otherwise JG would already be gone. The club, in my opinion, is playing hardball over this and Malaga is sitting back hoping to get a proven experienced player for nothing. JG on the other hand wants to leave and is prepared to take a cut in pay to sign for Malaga and he is now looking to get a % of the balance of the value of his contract. I believe that eventually a mutually acceptable agreement will be reached the details of which WILL be confidential and at that stage the club will announce he has left by "Mutual Consent".

I suspect that JG is on a decent wage and when he leaves it will release a decent amount of money which will allow RS to bring in other players without breaking the budget he has been given. The club have said they will support him during this transfer window so I wish they would just get on with this and get it done.
I was actually suggesting calas mutual agreement could of been what I said not jg

I'm sure RS would appreciate this being brought to a close as much as JG.

Hmmmm?

Every player in the last 2 years seems to be in the wrong,but not the people at the top?

agreed, we gave Guerra the contract that he signed so why should he take a hit because our inept management can't see a good goalscorer when they are right in front of them

Spot on. Guerra was the best striker at the club but never given a chance! In the short time he had on the pitch looked a totally different class. He did more in 5 mins than Macheda etc would do in 90. Shame that it never worked out.

Did you not see him in the Bournemouth cup game. He was rather worst player in an awful performance and didn't want to try. He may be a good player, but he never showed any of it for us. Good riddance I say.

Actually it seems that he wants his contract paid up, although he will walk straight into another club who will pay his wages, penny and the bun springs to mind

Cake and eat it.

Whats this best striker at the club bollox ? Based on what, previous observations of a foreign league on TV

He proved nothing here, a 5 min cameo is all i can remember.

I would stop paying his wages full stop, hold on to his registration papers and let him take us to court. I am sure with every training session monitored and game analysed we could get football experts to say he wasn't showing the expected desire to be a professional footballer. Whats the worse thing tht could happen, we'd have to pay the remainder of his contract...He wants this anyway....

Got to stop these greedy blighters wrecking the game and our club.

And for the incompetence at the top, its Tans ball and he can do with it what he likes, that's the privilege of ownership.