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Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:14 pm

It's now come to light that Charlotte Church is the director of 5 london based companies all registered with thomas harris accountants the boss who boasts on their website 'lowering and deferring tax is one of our key aims by taking advantage of allowances and reliefs of which many are unaware' Shes a f*cking hypocrite!!!

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:45 pm

Military Junta wrote:It's now come to light that Charlotte Church is the director of 5 london based companies all registered with thomas harris accountants the boss who boasts on their website 'lowering and deferring tax is one of our key aims by taking advantage of allowances and reliefs of which many are unaware' Shes a f*cking hypocrite!!!


Adam, totally agree with you.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:51 pm

Of course she's a hypercrite like all champagne socialist's

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:11 pm

angelis1949 wrote:Of course she's a hypercrite like all champagne socialist's


Like everyone involved in politics!

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:34 pm

There are certainly plenty of hypocrites around. UKIP was financed partly by expenses they made in Europe and also by many millionaire donors, hardly matching their 'common folk'image. However, what Church actually said is true...we do not need any cuts,any austerity at all. In fact, it's detrimental to the economy.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:39 pm

Absolutely love Charlotte Church!
I applaud her powerful stance against the cruel austerity measures and the ruthless welfare cuts.
Actually I feel quite proud of her.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:33 pm

The Beachcomber wrote:Absolutely love Charlotte Church!
I applaud her powerful stance against the cruel austerity measures and the ruthless welfare cuts.
Actually I feel quite proud of her.



Agree 100%, well done Charlotte.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:53 pm

rhondda 1015 wrote:
The Beachcomber wrote:Absolutely love Charlotte Church!
I applaud her powerful stance against the cruel austerity measures and the ruthless welfare cuts.
Actually I feel quite proud of her.



Agree 100%, well done Charlotte.


Likewise


Its not a crime to make money is it - we all need it to live.

Could it be that now she has made it, after being plucked into limelight and advised by the right agents, accountants et al, that she has the money and time to fight for people and communities that dont get opportunities like she did?

if she's a hypocryte - then Bill Gates is a total c**t for giving to the poor of africa with all his capital millions.

look around you - our country has turned into a shithole in many areas...

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:55 pm

Dan Hannan is the only politician with a brain.

He understands that capitalism, for all its pitfalls, is the best way and that we are not experiencing free market capitalism but government controlled corporatism that only has the aims of providing for the elite few.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:00 pm

balkanblue wrote:Dan Hannan is the only politician with a brain.

He understands that capitalism, for all its pitfalls, is the best way and that we are not experiencing free market capitalism but government controlled corporatism that only has the aims of providing for the elite few.



Dan Hannan and brain? These are three words I wouldn't associate together! Some people are easily taken in!

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:04 pm

balkanblue wrote:Dan Hannan is the only politician with a brain.

He understands that capitalism, for all its pitfalls, is the best way and that we are not experiencing free market capitalism but government controlled corporatism that only has the aims of providing for the elite few.




You have covered a good point here.

it isnt a proper free market and the balance favours the few who then get supercharged to zillionaires.

im sure that there is ample opportunity for a fair distribution of wealth in a real free market economy.
We need employers as to give jobs to employees

State control is not the answer in many cases

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:08 pm

rhondda 1015 wrote:
The Beachcomber wrote:Absolutely love Charlotte Church!
I applaud her powerful stance against the cruel austerity measures and the ruthless welfare cuts.
Actually I feel quite proud of her.



Agree 100%, well done Charlotte.


Strange attitude that one. You applaud someone who is a hypocrite?
She is a multi millionaire paying £1,000's to accountants to avoid tax (boasting about it as well it seems).
Austerity measures will not affect her with her money, as unlike lower income working people she can avoid the cutbacks and the future collapse of the public services and the country (see Greece for an example) if they are not reined in now.
Perhaps she thinks that when she opens her mouth people will listen (like they used to when she was a young teenager singer)?
But unfortunately for her those days are long gone and all people see is a loud mouth bully, wanting to fight someone and send abusive social media messages.
Someone should remind her there was an election last month and the people of the country chose austerity measures to repair the damage caused by the Labour party she supports. Its called democracy and just because you dont like the result doesn't mean you can then over throw the democratic process to put in place what you want.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:22 pm

City Slicker wrote:
Dan Hannan and brain? These are three words I wouldn't associate together! Some people are easily taken in!


What the heck are you on about? Just like true socialism has never been experienced due to groups assuming power and controlling the monopoly leaving the majority poor and struggling, neither has true free market capitalism. What we experience through the western world is corporatism whereby a select elitist few control what goes on and the trickle down isn't allowed to happen because governmental policy and measures taken by the private sector (i.e. price fixing http://news.sky.com/story/725993/builde ... er-rip-off ) stop it happening.

What are you left with? A divided class system as always because the rich want to keep getting richer and holding on to what they can and the poorer continue to struggle onwards. Left or right, it doesn't bloody matter. The USSR did the same and the supposedly 'free' west does the same regardless of what side of the spectrum they fall on. Its all a complete farce designed to divide society and turn the common man against one another whilst the elitist scumbags at the top, whether they're ardent tories or champagne socialists, get away with what they're doing.

People like Dan Hannan never make it anywhere near the top of the Cons because they'd rather put a PR relations expert and puppet at the forefront of the party to peddle complete lies and nonsense in an aim to appeal to the masses. Just like the pathetic Labour Party now won't elect Corbyn, a true Labourite with working people's values at heart, (they'd rather Kendall or Cooper to continue peddling the Blairite crap), the Tories won't let true Cons with true Cons values near the top of the party because of the backlash from the majority. The entire political system is a PR exercise and a complete con.

The game is rigged by those at the top and thats the way they like it. Why would they risk it when they have everything so good? Hannan, whilst a Conservative, is 100% right about the economy because in a well functioning economy a bank can fail because its a private business just like any other private business can fail and be replaced by other competitors in the market. Why the heck should the banks be bailed out costing everything thousands and thousands yet if the local SME goes under the government couldn't give a crap? All the government would be interested in then is if that SME had paid its taxes to the HMRC.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:30 pm

City Slicker wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Dan Hannan is the only politician with a brain.

He understands that capitalism, for all its pitfalls, is the best way and that we are not experiencing free market capitalism but government controlled corporatism that only has the aims of providing for the elite few.



Dan Hannan and brain? These are three words I wouldn't associate together! Some people are easily taken in!


He makes some good points but misses the main points:
- Corporatism naturally evolves from Capitalism, as consolidation takes place. One evolved it seeks to survive through any manner, even political influence (which is clearly outside the scope of natural capitalism).
- Deregulation of financial markets allowed the perverse business of selling valueless derivatives to take place, this is what created the collapse!! Derivative trading was exempt from financial regulation in the US.
- When Adam Smith wrote his books all those years ago, his model was based on the premise that banks should not use money as a commodity, but as blood to feed the system. The real issue is that the "blood" took over the system.
- Other than that I agree that the Capitalist model has generally been good, but it does have a life-cycle and needs to be nurtured through regulation - especially banking legislation.
- I agree the bail outs should never have been allowed to happen, neither should the banking mergers have been permitted, to make them as big as they became.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:15 pm

eddiep wrote:
rhondda 1015 wrote:
The Beachcomber wrote:Absolutely love Charlotte Church!
I applaud her powerful stance against the cruel austerity measures and the ruthless welfare cuts.
Actually I feel quite proud of her.



Agree 100%, well done Charlotte.


Likewise


Its not a crime to make money is it - we all need it to live.

Could it be that now she has made it, after being plucked into limelight and advised by the right agents, accountants et al, that she has the money and time to fight for people and communities that dont get opportunities like she did?

if she's a hypocryte - then Bill Gates is a total c**t for giving to the poor of africa with all his capital millions.

look around you - our country has turned into a shithole in many areas...


It certainly has. And credit to her for standing up for the poorest and most vulnerable in our shitty and unequal society. She doesn't need to do this and cop all the flak that's coming her way...but she does it out of choice because she wants to stand up for those who have no voice. Good for her and shame on those who criticises someone for doing something good. :thumbup:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:24 pm

Hang on, shes clearly campaigning against something which she is doing herself and people support her..? :laughing6:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:26 pm

Military Junta wrote:Hang on, shes clearly campaigning against something which she is doing herself and people support her..? :laughing6:

She's a fool and a hypocrite Adam. You are 100% correct fella. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Don't remember her complaining when she was living it up, do you? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:27 pm

We're currently £1.5 trillion in debt, rising by £75bn every year - to saddle future generations with this debt is extremely bad form, and not sustainable.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:28 pm

rumpo kid wrote:We're currently £1.5 trillion in debt, rising by £75bn every year - to saddle future generations with this debt is extremely bad form, and not sustainable.

Do you honestly expect some self loving cretin like her to understand this? She's from the generation of only caring about themselves and what they can rinse from the public purse. Like I said earlier, was she moaning when she was living it up with Mr Henson? I dont think so.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:34 pm

balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hang on, shes clearly campaigning against something which she is doing herself and people support her..? :laughing6:

She's a fool and a hypocrite Adam. You are 100% correct fella. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Don't remember her complaining when she was living it up, do you? :roll: :roll: :roll:


The give evidence to Leverson and Miliband wanted to block the free press as a result if he won the election. He then goes onto lose the election and shes now kicking off.

(a) She doesn't even realise that the NHS in Wales is run by Labour
(b) Labour were actually going to do very similar cuts if they got in anyway!!!

You couldn't make it f*cking up if you tried!!! :evil:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:41 pm

Military Junta wrote:
balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hang on, shes clearly campaigning against something which she is doing herself and people support her..? :laughing6:

She's a fool and a hypocrite Adam. You are 100% correct fella. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Don't remember her complaining when she was living it up, do you? :roll: :roll: :roll:


The give evidence to Leverson and Miliband wanted to block the free press as a result if he won the election. He then goes onto lose the election and shes now kicking off.

(a) She doesn't even realise that the NHS in Wales is run by Labour
(b) Labour were actually going to do very similar cuts if they got in anyway!!!

You couldn't make it f*cking up if you tried!!! :evil:

The UK is full of idiots that believe they're living in some sort of utopia because they've very rarely or never experienced the wider world. The place is a dump with the media peddling them lies continuously to keep them there and the apathy of the general public is alarming. So happy I left. :ayatollah:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:42 pm

balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Hang on, shes clearly campaigning against something which she is doing herself and people support her..? :laughing6:

She's a fool and a hypocrite Adam. You are 100% correct fella. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Don't remember her complaining when she was living it up, do you? :roll: :roll: :roll:


The give evidence to Leverson and Miliband wanted to block the free press as a result if he won the election. He then goes onto lose the election and shes now kicking off.

(a) She doesn't even realise that the NHS in Wales is run by Labour
(b) Labour were actually going to do very similar cuts if they got in anyway!!!

You couldn't make it f*cking up if you tried!!! :evil:

The UK is full of idiots that believe they're living in some sort of utopia because they've very rarely or never experienced the wider world. The place is a dump with the media peddling them lies continuously to keep them there and the apathy of the general public is alarming. So happy I left. :ayatollah:


You try knocking doors and people answer that they voted labour because their grandparents and parents voted Labour!!! It really fucks you off I tell you

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:49 pm

Military Junta wrote:You try knocking doors and people answer that they voted labour because their grandparents and parents voted Labour!!! It really fucks you off I tell you

Been there, done that. God fed up of it and realised I couldn't convince people otherwise, so whats the alternative? If you cant change something then leave and thats what i did. Honestly Brownie, from an economical point of view you have your head screwed on. Just leave and go and live your life up somewhere else because the UK is full of idiots that take hard working people like yourself for granted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:59 pm

balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:You try knocking doors and people answer that they voted labour because their grandparents and parents voted Labour!!! It really fucks you off I tell you

Been there, done that. God fed up of it and realised I couldn't convince people otherwise, so whats the alternative? If you cant change something then leave and thats what i did. Honestly Brownie, from an economical point of view you have your head screwed on. Just leave and go and live your life up somewhere else because the UK is full of idiots that take hard working people like yourself for granted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I was single I would have been out of here along time ago. Lived in Australia, Vietnam, Thailand and London during my mad younger years and have been nagging the wife for years to move away but until very recently her very ill mother needed us.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:12 pm

Military Junta wrote:
balkanblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:You try knocking doors and people answer that they voted labour because their grandparents and parents voted Labour!!! It really fucks you off I tell you

Been there, done that. God fed up of it and realised I couldn't convince people otherwise, so whats the alternative? If you cant change something then leave and thats what i did. Honestly Brownie, from an economical point of view you have your head screwed on. Just leave and go and live your life up somewhere else because the UK is full of idiots that take hard working people like yourself for granted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I was single I would have been out of here along time ago. Lived in Australia, Vietnam, Thailand and London during my mad younger years and have been nagging the wife for years to move away but until very recently her very ill mother needed us.


You might hate your country but I love living here and I'm very happy.

I'm worried about austerity and disabled people losing benefits, more kids living in poverty, leisure centres shutting, rich oligarchs buying up London, playing fields being sold off and much else but I still love it here.

I also have no problem that Charlotte Church is drawing attention to some of these things even if she's rich herself.

Embrace your inner Charlotte...

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:19 pm

rumpo kid wrote:We're currently £1.5 trillion in debt, rising by £75bn every year - to saddle future generations with this debt is extremely bad form, and not sustainable.


That ship has sailed. The sheer scale of debt is astonishing for the youngest generation.

Get your violin out but most students, of which there are now millions, have well over 20k debt by the age of 21.

The gov allowed the universities to ramp up their fees to disgraceful amounts, giving loans to any dumb teenager, only now to take issue with it. Which is why our university are frankly total shite as they allowed anyone in to saddle them with debt they will never, ever repay.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:21 pm

somebody really loves to slag of poor charlotte! :lol:

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:somebody really loves to slag of poor charlotte! :lol:


Saint Charlotte in many people's eyes ;-)

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:50 pm

Who gives a shit what she does. Voice of an angel and a muff like Chewbacca's arse. I'd boff her.

Re: Charlotte Church been found out

Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:45 pm

Private school Charlotte knows the struggles of poverty due to her chav St Mellons boyfriends I expect. Lol