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Jobcheaters allowance!!

Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:30 pm

A bloke came for an interview today where I work, he looked like he hadn't slept for a month and he was 1 hour late!

He said he couldn't lift or move anything because he had health issues and we would have to fit the hours in to suit him as he wasn't flexible! What possible use could he be?

He didn't get up and leave after his interview and just sat there like he was wondering why he was rejected! It pisses me off that I pay for people like this to do F@@k all when they clearly don't want to work. If this bloke really thought he stood any chance he would have to be an absolute muppet!!! :shock:

Have you seen anyone more unemployable than that?

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:33 pm

Once knew a guy who turned up for a job at Olivers shoe shop and said all he could do was take the HushPuppies for a walk :shock:

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Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:20 pm

Once had a bloke turn up for an interview st the steelworks where I worked and he said he just wanted to look after the slag.

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Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:24 pm

City Slicker wrote:Once had a bloke turn up for an interview st the steelworks where I worked and he said he just wanted to look after the slag.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:32 pm

My mate just told me half way through his interview today he asked to use the toilet, ran and left a trail of puke. :laughing6:

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Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:33 pm

City Slicker wrote:Once had a bloke turn up for an interview st the steelworks where I worked and he said he just wanted to look after the slag.

:laughing6:

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:03 pm

Get it each and every day.

Before the days of email they used to come into the recruitment agencies asking for a card which they would then produce to the job centre and tell them that they have been looking for work in the agencies when in fact they were there for seconds. If you refuse to give them a card they would become abusive so for the younger members of staff it was easier just to give them a card and get them on their way.

These days they are all given a log in for universal job match website and they have to apply for jobs on there and that is their proof that they are looking for work. However it's completely flawed because when employers ring some of them up for work they are met with any excuse undertake the sun for them not to get the job!!

The problem is that if you inform the job centre of time wasters it turns out to be a game of letter tennis with many questions and statements about the individual and I can't be arsed with wasting more of my time on the c**t so I don't bother. Honestly if I had £50 for every person who applied for work and never wanted the job then I would be a multi-millionaire.
Unfortunately the left in this country will always wheel out the popular sob stories about benefits being cut but the reality is shocking regarding people's laziness

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:08 am

I don't really care about them. If they want to live in their pit then carry on.

I would hate the feeling of finishing a week now without working or doing anything productive. The shitness of work makes everything else a lot better.

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Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:57 am

Depressed Blue wrote:I don't really care about them. If they want to live in their pit then carry on.

I would hate the feeling of finishing a week now without working or doing anything productive. The shitness of work makes everything else a lot better.


That about sums it up! It can be tough getting up some days and work can be stressful and a pain in the bum but at least you keep your self respect! It can be satisfying to finish a day feeling you have done a good job.

I was on job seekers for one month after redundancy but when I got an interview I made a real effort to get the job which I did.I went to other branches and questioned staff and looked into the company history. I also made sure I turned up well presented and on time and tried to showcase my strengths as opposed to my weaknesses. I could have sat on my arse and just lived of the system but that feels like existing rather than living to me!

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Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:13 am

lyndipops wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:I don't really care about them. If they want to live in their pit then carry on.

I would hate the feeling of finishing a week now without working or doing anything productive. The shitness of work makes everything else a lot better.


That about sums it up! It can be tough getting up some days and work can be stressful and a pain in the bum but at least you keep your self respect! It can be satisfying to finish a day feeling you have done a good job.

I was on job seekers for one month after redundancy but when I got an interview I made a real effort to get the job which I did.I went to other branches and questioned staff and looked into the company history. I also made sure I turned up well presented and on time and tried to showcase my strengths as opposed to my weaknesses. I could have sat on my arse and just lived of the system but that feels like existing rather than living to me!


If we stopped the benefit all together you would the work ethic in this country change overnight

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:19 am

Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss

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Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:37 am

mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

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Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:53 am

Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Ah, cheers for explaining to me what its like from the employers point of view Adam. Fortunately for me, I didn't have to deal with the job centre for to long. I found them to be an absolute nightmare.....its easier to work than to deal with them lol sending me on rediculas interviews like making packed sandwiches over on Lamby way, ( I know you are supposed to take what you can get) but my work history is in civil engerneering, and they expected me to make sandwiches lol

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:38 am

mr'mogreenz wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Ah, cheers for explaining to me what its like from the employers point of view Adam. Fortunately for me, I didn't have to deal with the job centre for to long. I found them to be an absolute nightmare.....its easier to work than to deal with them lol sending me on rediculas interviews like making packed sandwiches over on Lamby way, ( I know you are supposed to take what you can get) but my work history is in civil engerneering, and they expected me to make sandwiches lol


Shame they didn't send you on a spelling course too ;-)
Only pulling your leg fella - I like your attitude.

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:44 am

Knew a guy once who was off six months with a broken flask !!

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:57 am

Have no time for people that don't want to contribute to society. People moan about immigrants coming over. Take a look closer to home. So many people abusing the system and taint it for those that genuinely need it.

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Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:33 pm

My son is on work placement in my mates garage yet still has to look for work. He gets phone calls from the places he's applied to and has to tell them he doesn't want it. What a joke. Firms think they have found someone when they haven't.

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:12 pm

Military Junta wrote:Get it each and every day.

Before the days of email they used to come into the recruitment agencies asking for a card which they would then produce to the job centre and tell them that they have been looking for work in the agencies when in fact they were there for seconds. If you refuse to give them a card they would become abusive so for the younger members of staff it was easier just to give them a card and get them on their way.

These days they are all given a log in for universal job match website and they have to apply for jobs on there and that is their proof that they are looking for work. However it's completely flawed because when employers ring some of them up for work they are met with any excuse undertake the sun for them not to get the job!!

The problem is that if you inform the job centre of time wasters it turns out to be a game of letter tennis with many questions and statements about the individual and I can't be arsed with wasting more of my time on the c**t so I don't bother. Honestly if I had £50 for every person who applied for work and never wanted the job then I would be a multi-millionaire.
Unfortunately the left in this country will always wheel out the popular sob stories about benefits being cut but the reality is shocking regarding people's laziness


What is it you do mate?

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:04 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Get it each and every day.

Before the days of email they used to come into the recruitment agencies asking for a card which they would then produce to the job centre and tell them that they have been looking for work in the agencies when in fact they were there for seconds. If you refuse to give them a card they would become abusive so for the younger members of staff it was easier just to give them a card and get them on their way.

These days they are all given a log in for universal job match website and they have to apply for jobs on there and that is their proof that they are looking for work. However it's completely flawed because when employers ring some of them up for work they are met with any excuse undertake the sun for them not to get the job!!

The problem is that if you inform the job centre of time wasters it turns out to be a game of letter tennis with many questions and statements about the individual and I can't be arsed with wasting more of my time on the c**t so I don't bother. Honestly if I had £50 for every person who applied for work and never wanted the job then I would be a multi-millionaire.
Unfortunately the left in this country will always wheel out the popular sob stories about benefits being cut but the reality is shocking regarding people's laziness


What is it you do mate?


He's an agent for the DSS

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:08 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Get it each and every day.

Before the days of email they used to come into the recruitment agencies asking for a card which they would then produce to the job centre and tell them that they have been looking for work in the agencies when in fact they were there for seconds. If you refuse to give them a card they would become abusive so for the younger members of staff it was easier just to give them a card and get them on their way.

These days they are all given a log in for universal job match website and they have to apply for jobs on there and that is their proof that they are looking for work. However it's completely flawed because when employers ring some of them up for work they are met with any excuse undertake the sun for them not to get the job!!

The problem is that if you inform the job centre of time wasters it turns out to be a game of letter tennis with many questions and statements about the individual and I can't be arsed with wasting more of my time on the c**t so I don't bother. Honestly if I had £50 for every person who applied for work and never wanted the job then I would be a multi-millionaire.
Unfortunately the left in this country will always wheel out the popular sob stories about benefits being cut but the reality is shocking regarding people's laziness


What is it you do mate?


Got my own recruitment agency

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:14 pm

Military Junta wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Get it each and every day.

Before the days of email they used to come into the recruitment agencies asking for a card which they would then produce to the job centre and tell them that they have been looking for work in the agencies when in fact they were there for seconds. If you refuse to give them a card they would become abusive so for the younger members of staff it was easier just to give them a card and get them on their way.

These days they are all given a log in for universal job match website and they have to apply for jobs on there and that is their proof that they are looking for work. However it's completely flawed because when employers ring some of them up for work they are met with any excuse undertake the sun for them not to get the job!!

The problem is that if you inform the job centre of time wasters it turns out to be a game of letter tennis with many questions and statements about the individual and I can't be arsed with wasting more of my time on the c**t so I don't bother. Honestly if I had £50 for every person who applied for work and never wanted the job then I would be a multi-millionaire.
Unfortunately the left in this country will always wheel out the popular sob stories about benefits being cut but the reality is shocking regarding people's laziness


What is it you do mate?


Got my own recruitment agency


I've seen you post about needing people for certain jobs on here. Hope it goes well and good of you to offer it out to posters on here

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:03 pm

Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?

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Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:40 pm

antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?


You obviously don't understand the secret costings of people's time do you ?

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:49 pm

Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?


You obviously don't understand the secret costings of people's time do you ?

I do but if they're relying on you to try and find the scroungers then you have a responsibility to take a little bit of your time even if it costs you a little bit of money :thumbup:

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:07 pm

antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?


You obviously don't understand the secret costings of people's time do you ?

I do but if they're relying on you to try and find the scroungers then you have a responsibility to take a little bit of your time even if it costs you a little bit of money :thumbup:


Excuse me I don't have a responsibility at all as I'm not employed by the state. First impressions count and whoever I send out is representing me as a person so Its not in my best interests to put people in work who simply don't want work

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:13 pm

Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?


You obviously don't understand the secret costings of people's time do you ?

I do but if they're relying on you to try and find the scroungers then you have a responsibility to take a little bit of your time even if it costs you a little bit of money :thumbup:


Excuse me I don't have a responsibility at all as I'm not employed by the state. First impressions count and whoever I send out is representing me as a person so Its not in my best interests to put people in work who simply don't want work

Ye but you're a part of society and it's better than coming on the internet and moaning about it when you can do something about it. I didn't say you should hire them either, no one should until they buck up which will only happen with people like you being honest and saying when they turn up late and aren't bothered etc.

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:19 pm

antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:Don't the job centre ask you how the interview went? I know when I was out of work and looking for a job, every interview I went to through the job centre, when I reported back to them, they new exactly how the interview went and how I conducted myself in said interview, and if they think you been fuking about and not trying, they stop your money there and then. Job centre are very stricked nowadays. If your claiming job seekers they make sure you are trying your hardest to seek employment. Its not like it used to be, when you could take the piss


No, they ask about an individual once every six months maybe ? And as I say it's easier to say 'he wasn't what we were lookinfor' rather than he couldn't be arsed blah, blah because if you give them that kinda response it becomes a game of letter tennis and you have to answer hundreds of questions and give statements. During that time I'm thinking 'my time is money here and I'm spending all this time because the c**t turned it to be useless and as a result isn't earning me any money so what's the point?'

Why moan so much about it when you can't even be bothered to do your part of helping the job centre find out who isn't actually looking for a job and is being a scrounger?


You obviously don't understand the secret costings of people's time do you ?

I do but if they're relying on you to try and find the scroungers then you have a responsibility to take a little bit of your time even if it costs you a little bit of money :thumbup:


Excuse me I don't have a responsibility at all as I'm not employed by the state. First impressions count and whoever I send out is representing me as a person so Its not in my best interests to put people in work who simply don't want work

Ye but you're a part of society and it's better than coming on the internet and moaning about it when you can do something about it. I didn't say you should hire them either, no one should until they buck up which will only happen with people like you being honest and saying when they turn up late and aren't bothered etc.


Sorry but like every working person my first priority is my family and home not trying to put some useless c**t to see sense

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:59 pm

Surely it could be simplified by the employer just signing a form to say that they beleive the applicant was making an effort? Perhaps you could have a three strikes and your out rule? Just put something in place to make it easy for the employer to pass on their feedback without being hassled.

Re: Jobcheaters allowance!!

Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:05 pm

lyndipops wrote:Surely it could be simplified by the employer just signing a form to say that they beleive the applicant was making an effort? Perhaps you could have a three strikes and your out rule? Just put something in place to make it easy for the employer to pass on their feedback without being hassled.


If you seen some of my adverts with the jobcentre then you would understand why I get annoyed so much.

For example: CSCS LABOURER REQUIRED.

Blah, blah, blah but MUST HAVE A VAILD CSCS CARD!!!

Then I'd have.people contacting me and having a 5/10 min conversation with me they turn around and say that they don't have a CSCS card!!!! I mean what the f**k as I can't be any clearer and they actually applied for the job!!!

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Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:02 am

Job Centre Plus will send absolutely anyone to any vacancy whether.They have targets so they send clients for jobs interviews irrespective of whether they meet the actual job criteria.A friend of mine worked for a company who targeted employers for apprenticeships.She secured a Motor Cycle shop where the owner stipulated the candidate must have a full MC licence over 125 cc and be able to deliver purchased vehicles to customers.The first guy arrived at the shop, sent by JCP ,he had one arm !! This happened last year.If people fail to turn up they lose their benefits but more importantly the JCP adviser ticks another government box. Do not look for common sense with JCP they are a complete rabble any employer who places an advert with them needs to think again.