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UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 12:14 pm

Who else thinks this is wrong?

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 12:21 pm

well you certainly do because it fits your own agenda! :lol:

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 12:26 pm

I'm all for proportional representation over this current method of voting. Does that mean I'd be happy to see a party like UKIP get more power? Not really. However, at the end of the day, we live in a democracy and if they are a party that the people vote for then so be it. The same goes for the other parties. The current set up is massively flawed.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 12:35 pm

:wave: Bye Farage

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 12:37 pm

No doubt there are some flaws in the first past the post system that is currently in place but why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? Vast majoryty of those UKIP votes would be outside Scotalnd i'd imagine?

Also you limit that count to just Scotalnd and see how many UKIP voters there are comapred to SNP. Why would UKIP deserve more seats when they have clearly been trounced north of the border?

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 1:29 pm

mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 1:31 pm

1) I would say the same if it was Labour

2) Farage will be back in September :)

3) Of course they lost in Scotland, they want to take away the Barnett formula that sees Scotland receive huge payments compared with Wales - hence why Scotland want to stay in the UK and yet vote SNP :laughing5:

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 1:59 pm

RFMH wrote::wave: Bye Farage

I don't know why you think this is a good thing. You must be deluded if you do. Suzanne Evans and Steven Woolfe are both minorities, both favourites for leadership and both would run circles around those in power because they speak so articulately. The reality is, Farage took UKIP as far as he could as leader. It would have been nice to see him as an MP to debate in the HoC's but I've wanted him to stand down for some time. Woolfe for example puts the immigration debate across much much much better, which is what is needed.

I really hope Steven Woolfe becomes leader.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_ZcsG8yH4[/youtube]

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:19 pm

T1JMO wrote:Who else thinks this is wrong?



Posted it above. Private club, make it as hard as possible for the outsiders to penetrate this exclusive club. Look at the map and you'll see Labour have 20 MPs in one square mile whereas the Tories have 1 MP. UKIP, Greens etc have no chance.

Also look where all Labour MPs are located, yes, all Muslim voters. Why?, Labour give and give and give. This was the other day, vote Labour and we'll keep giving. Muslims aren't a happy bunch as they know if we pull out of Europe then they'll be deported today instead of ten years which they won't as their human rights overrides the British tax payers.

Labour turned a blind eye to the mass rapes in Rotherham, Rochdale etc as they want the Muslim votes and have even have allowed Muslims use Sheria law.

3 days ago in Birmingham. Vote Labour and you can do what you like. Notice anything about the picture below?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/05/labour-should-be-embarrassed-about-holding-a-sex-segregated-rally/

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Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:31 pm

blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote::wave: Bye Farage

I don't know why you think this is a good thing. You must be deluded if you do. Suzanne Evans and Steven Woolfe are both minorities, both favourites for leadership and both would run circles around those in power because they speak so articulately. The reality is, Farage took UKIP as far as he could as leader. It would have been nice to see him as an MP to debate in the HoC's but I've wanted him to stand down for some time. Woolfe for example puts the immigration debate across much much much better, which is what is needed.

I really hope Steven Woolfe becomes leader.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_ZcsG8yH4[/youtube]

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Less racist ass holes around politics the better. Someone supporting UKIP calling someone else deluded :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: has a polish person stolen your job yet? :laughing6: :laughing6: pathetic.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:38 pm

RFMH wrote:Less racist ass holes around politics the better. Someone supporting UKIP calling someone else deluded :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: has a polish person stolen your job yet? :laughing6: :laughing6: pathetic.


How old are you mate, 11?

I vote UKIP because:

a) I want political reform
b) I want hospital parking charges scrapped
c) I want MP recall and accountability
d) I want the number of quangos cut
e) I want NHS spending to increase in terms of doctors and nurses, not middle management
f) I want grammar schools as as proven in England, they work better than bog standard comprehensives in Wales
g) I want to withdraw from the EU
h) I want the tax threshold raised
i) I want taxes for the middle classes cut
j) I want 50/50 shared parenting rights (very important)
k) I want tuition fees for STEM subjects abolished

But, just like the little fascist you are, presume my argument is entirely about immigration. Says more about you than anyone else mate. Also, don't you or didn't you live in Germany pal? You're a fine one to call anyone racist when you're in a country that has a vehemently strong right wing element. Jog on.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:38 pm

RFMH wrote:
blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote::wave: Bye Farage

I don't know why you think this is a good thing. You must be deluded if you do. Suzanne Evans and Steven Woolfe are both minorities, both favourites for leadership and both would run circles around those in power because they speak so articulately. The reality is, Farage took UKIP as far as he could as leader. It would have been nice to see him as an MP to debate in the HoC's but I've wanted him to stand down for some time. Woolfe for example puts the immigration debate across much much much better, which is what is needed.

I really hope Steven Woolfe becomes leader.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_ZcsG8yH4[/youtube]

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Less racist ass holes around politics the better. Someone supporting UKIP calling someone else deluded :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: has a polish person stolen your job yet? :laughing6: :laughing6: pathetic.


The only people who are racists were Labour towards the British. Racists pigs. 1,600 white schoolgirls 11 to 15 year olds, gang raped but they allowed it to happen because they wanted the muslims votes, who's racist?, Pretty sure if UKIP allowed 1,600 asian school girls to gang raped by white males then the SAS would have been sent in.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:48 pm

Wayne S wrote:
mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.


Not sure I agree because even if labour won every single Scottish seat the Tories would still have won?

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 2:53 pm

Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:06 pm

RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Who did you vote for?

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:10 pm

blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Who did you vote for?


Labour Mate because my parents did.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:11 pm

RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.


People like you need to stop taking Valium, prozac as people like you are living in fantasy land. You might be cuddled up with your pillow at night and think everything is ok but get out and walk through Muslim areas and see what happens. You'd be wearing giant nappies for years.

Labour allowed 1 million Muslims in and half can't speak English and have brought their culture here, ie, girls are game, rape is ok, and under-age girls are defiantly okay.

Hope this in - out referendum will allow us to bring in a British human right law, abide by our rules or you're deported unlike under the coalition whereas rapists etc can't be deported because they have a f*cking dog or I'm gay even though they are heterosexual rapists and they will will be told off if they were deported.

Not long before these vile scum are kicked out with mays 5 size foot.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:25 pm

mr_nellio wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.


Not sure I agree because even if labour won every single Scottish seat the Tories would still have won?


Which is why I said "assisted".

Lib Dem have a lot to answer for.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:30 pm

RFMH wrote:
blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Who did you vote for?


Labour Mate because my parents did.

So you voted for a party that protects pedophiles then. Says more about you than us. Put me on ignore please. I don't converse with pedophile apologists.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:40 pm

blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:
blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Who did you vote for?


Labour Mate because my parents did.

So you voted for a party that protects pedophiles then. Says more about you than us. Put me on ignore please. I don't converse with pedophile apologists.


Imagine thinking from that response I actually voted Labour :laughing6: :laughing6: but you know it's quite easy to pull the wool over a UKIP Voyer's eyes. But if you're going to play the "guilt by association" idea. I can't believe you are an apologist for the idea that gay marriage causes bad weather :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:50 pm

RFMH wrote:
blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:
blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

Who did you vote for?


Labour Mate because my parents did.

So you voted for a party that protects pedophiles then. Says more about you than us. Put me on ignore please. I don't converse with pedophile apologists.


Imagine thinking from that response I actually voted Labour :laughing6: :laughing6: but you know it's quite easy to pull the wool over a UKIP Voyer's eyes. But if you're going to play the "guilt by association" idea. I can't believe you are an apologist for the idea that gay marriage causes bad weather :laughing5: :laughing5:


Gang banger, says it all sado.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 3:54 pm

RFMH wrote:Imagine thinking from that response I actually voted Labour :laughing6: :laughing6: but you know it's quite easy to pull the wool over a UKIP Voyer's eyes. But if you're going to play the "guilt by association" idea. I can't believe you are an apologist for the idea that gay marriage causes bad weather :laughing5: :laughing5:


Difference is, Labour has routinely had issues with pedophilia (Harman, others, Rotherham, other constituencies, the political system itself apparently etc) - its not a one off at all. Deny it all you like.

Also, your rebuttal is laughable. Are you suggesting that having bigoted views is as bad as pedophilia? If so, then you really do have a warped mind. If me being called a racist, bigot or homophobe saved a children from such a horrific ordeal I'd be happily called it every single day of the year.

The fact you even tried to compare them just shows that you are a warped individual.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 4:06 pm

blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:Imagine thinking from that response I actually voted Labour :laughing6: :laughing6: but you know it's quite easy to pull the wool over a UKIP Voyer's eyes. But if you're going to play the "guilt by association" idea. I can't believe you are an apologist for the idea that gay marriage causes bad weather :laughing5: :laughing5:


Difference is, Labour has routinely had issues with pedophilia (Harman, others, Rotherham, other constituencies, the political system itself apparently etc) - its not a one off at all. Deny it all you like.

Also, your rebuttal is laughable. Are you suggesting that having bigoted views is as bad as pedophilia? If so, then you really do have a warped mind. If me being called a racist, bigot or homophobe saved a children from such a horrific ordeal I'd be happily called it every single day of the year.

The fact you even tried to compare them just shows that you are a warped individual.


Or showing that you go on over the top overreacting to mild trolling shows you and UKIP up as the nasty right wing party it really is. I hate Labour and you can't defend gay marriage causes bad weather, UKIP failed last night. There we go.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 4:13 pm

RFMH wrote:Or showing that you go on over the top overreacting to mild trolling shows you and UKIP up as the nasty right wing party it really is. I hate Labour and you can't defend gay marriage causes bad weather, UKIP failed last night. There we go.


Over the top reactions or trolling now? You couldn't make this up. I'm going over the top for hating a party that neglected the young of Rotherham and many others up and down the country who were subjected to child abuse yet you, are obviously not overreacting, for calling bigots and other names for UKIP kicking them out of the party.

More excuses from yourself.

UKIP both succeeded and failed last night in different areas, I'll admit that. I'm not a tribal idiot in a mist of delusion like Labour voters who blindly continue to vote for that vermin party that has neglected Wales for years and many others up and down the country leading to sickening acts. I'm overreacting to be appalled by that record? They're public servants you clown who are supposed to serve us.

Call troll, call whatever you like, it just further exposes the liberal bigotry as Peter Hitchens states. I will admit I absolutely hate Labour. Don't care about the Greens or the other leftist parties, just Labour. I hate them, I hate their party, hate the politicians and I hate their record and what they stand for because of what they've done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3aIyF5mS8

The fact you can turn a blind eye to all that in the name of tribal politics due to your hatred of the 'x' other party says it all really.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 5:05 pm

Plaid and UKIP simply are not comparable.

What I think it comes down to is selfishness.

Plaid to for welsh first bigotry.

Then ukip for foreign bigotry.

Seeing as plaid are after open door immigration, I think your political views are slightly "off". Which isnt a bad thing, but accept it.

You cannot mock anyones political beliefs when yours are suspect to the extreme.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 6:10 pm

Wayne S wrote:
mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.


Not sure how you work that out. If Labour had taken every seat in Scotland they'd still have lost. They're finished up here after taking the people for granted for years. Good riddance.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 6:29 pm

RFMH wrote:Wants to help NHS votes, calls others a fascist, votes UKIP, no concept of reality, vote for a racist party, bites easy with sweeping paragraphs of nothing.

Too easy with UKIP voters, a moment away from telling everyone how hard it is for white men in this country next :lol: :lol: jog on :lol: even the insults come from the mid 90's along with the policies.

can you tell me how ukip are racist..?????

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 6:43 pm

scots bluebird wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.


Not sure how you work that out. If Labour had taken every seat in Scotland they'd still have lost. They're finished up here after taking the people for granted for years. Good riddance.

So proud of the Scots for standing up to them man. Good on you for doing it.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 6:59 pm

I think emotions are high. Maybe let it blow over for a bit.

God help us when the tories announce what makes up the 12 million in welfare cuts though

They wouldnt reveal it for a reason. It is going to be baddddddd.

Re: UKIP 4m votes 1 seat, SNP 1.4m votes 56 seats

Fri May 08, 2015 9:49 pm

blueminati wrote:
scots bluebird wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
mr_nellio wrote:..... why should the people of Scotland be represented by a party that no-one up here wants? .....


By the looks of it the Scots didn't want the Conservatives either but their voting choices have assisted in having a Tory government have control over them.


Not sure how you work that out. If Labour had taken every seat in Scotland they'd still have lost. They're finished up here after taking the people for granted for years. Good riddance.

So proud of the Scots for standing up to them man. Good on you for doing it.

:thumbup: