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" Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:55 pm

For all you calling slade clueless
And putting recent improvements in our play down to Trollope
Can you tell me if he went home at half time
Don't think many who watched today's first half performance can honestly say they saw that second half result coming
I'm not saying slade is faultless but it's time to get real
He is doing what his employer is asking him to do
Just like all of us do when we go to work
If your boss tells you to dig a hole you do it
If he only gives you a spoon to do it that's what you use
Slades hands are tied ,and he's doing the best with what he got
What makes me annoyed is no one says before kick off what team we should put out
No one says what players should have started what players should not of ,,all they say is slades clueless ,,
But what is the answer with what we have available,, not who's gone ,,they are gone ,,
Stability is what we desperatly need not another new manager in such a short space of time
IMO the first half today was as good as I've seen all season ,,we just needed to take one of our many chances ,,but that's football
IMO the players let us and our manager and coaches down big time today with that second half performance ,,
So why don't we put the blame on them for a change :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:00 pm

Slade is shit, but if we lose its his fault and if we win its Trollopes work

They work as a pair, they should get praised/slated equally as all the work and decision making is made by THEM

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:06 pm

KBK-13 wrote:Slade is shit, but if we lose its his fault and if we win its Trollopes work

They work as a pair, they should get praised/slated equally as all the work and decision making is made by THEM

So is Trollope shit today :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:33 pm

The're all as bad as each other !

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:38 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Slade is shit, but if we lose its his fault and if we win its Trollopes work

They work as a pair, they should get praised/slated equally as all the work and decision making is made by THEM

So is Trollope shit today :bluescarf:



Okay, I have no problem in saying that Slade and Trollope and the entire team were the biggest totally incompetent , woeful, clueless load of rubbish that I wasted my hard earned cash to see today. Absolutely dire codswollop drivel.

The problem is that Slade, Trollope (who bow down to master Tan) and whoever else you want to hold responsible for the management of that team of overpaid layabouts do have better resources available. What about Kennedy, Adeymi and Peltier then? Why drop Kennedy who is one of our best players? Why not give Tom Adeymi a proper chance rather than playing the likes of Noone and Whittingham who are selected by default but have been rubbish all seasonal? I was also at Reading on Saturday and we were equally rubbish then.

Carving out some recent flukey results is papering over the deep cracks that go right to the heart of this team and club.

I do agree that players must also take responsibility for the lacklustre performances. However, like any job responsibility lies with the management. Namely, Russell Slade. But I'm happy for Trollope to also take his share of the blame as well.

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:40 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Slade is shit, but if we lose its his fault and if we win its Trollopes work

They work as a pair, they should get praised/slated equally as all the work and decision making is made by THEM

So is Trollope shit today :bluescarf:


Yes, as was the team second half. Does Trollope have any influence on tactical decisions, subs etc? Or is he here for coaching the squad?

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:42 pm

Doubt if Tan was on the phone telling Slade what formation to use, or telling him to make certain substitutions. I think there will still be some on here giving Slade their full backing when he takes us into Div 1.

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:52 pm

Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:56 pm

Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.


Morrison is not a £5million centre back. That was a huge f**k up by Ole. £2million at best and a waste of ££ when we had a better centre back in Hudson.

Fabio either needs to be played as a wing back or a winger

Not sure any better strikers went for 750k in January, however, Guerra should have been given a chance

Slade is struggling though, that team should be beating Bolton

Re: Trollope today

Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:38 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Doubt if Tan was on the phone telling Slade what formation to use, or telling him to make certain substitutions. I think there will still be some on here giving Slade their full backing when he takes us into Div 1.



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Re: " Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:50 pm

slade told us although tan and the coaches make suggestions to him about the team , in his own words
'I have got the final say' so 'SLADE OUT' :thumbright:

Re: " Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:51 pm

drivingblue wrote:slade told us although tan and the coaches make suggestions to him about the team , in his own words
'I have got the final say' so 'SLADE OUT' :thumbright:


Correct,Slade has stated this.

Re: " Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:12 pm

I have never ever disliked any manager so much as Slade.

Re: " Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:17 pm

NIBluebird wrote:I have never ever disliked any manager so much as Slade.


I know you don't like him but out of every other manager why?

Re: " Trollope today "

Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:52 pm

Been watching City for about a 150 years now, and can honestly say during that time I haven't met a nicer bloke than Russell Slade, but with regard to what he produces on the field, I equally can't think of any previous City manager that's been as totally bizarre and clueless as him regarding tactics and selection ! Today we were still playing his unique pass and stop game that we have made our own under his leadership. Unfortunately I don't see us ever moving forward under the present coaching and management set up.

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:28 am

Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.

You make my point very well thank you
As you say Marshall manga Morrison fabio whitts etc would all start in your team just like they start in slades
Sadly there performances would let you down just like they are letting slade down :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:30 am

KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Slade is shit, but if we lose its his fault and if we win its Trollopes work

They work as a pair, they should get praised/slated equally as all the work and decision making is made by THEM

So is Trollope shit today :bluescarf:


Yes, as was the team second half. Does Trollope have any influence on tactical decisions, subs etc? Or is he here for coaching the squad?

But people on here are calling for Trollope to take over the managers job
They also say our improvements of late are down to him not slade ?????? :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:34 am

KBK-13 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.


Morrison is not a £5million centre back. That was a huge f**k up by Ole. £2million at best and a waste of ££ when we had a better centre back in Hudson.

Fabio either needs to be played as a wing back or a winger

Not sure any better strikers went for 750k in January, however, Guerra should have been given a chance

Slade is struggling though, that team should be beating Bolton

No it's the players who are struggling
Most on here would pick the majority of the players slade is picking
Slades hands are tied ffs he can only pick from what's left for the rest of this season :bluescarf:

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:35 am

drivingblue wrote:slade told us although tan and the coaches make suggestions to him about the team , in his own words
'I have got the final say' so 'SLADE OUT' :thumbright:

No it's the under performing senior players who need outing :bluescarf:

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:13 am

Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:16 am

bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.

Warburton won't work with the restrictions tan would put on him
That's also why he's leaving brentford as they want him to work under controls he won't tolerate :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:19 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.

You make my point very well thank you
As you say Marshall manga Morrison fabio whitts etc would all start in your team just like they start in slades
Sadly there performances would let you down just like they are letting slade down :bluescarf:


You actually make my point for me! Look at Palace! They were going down under Warnock, in came Pardew and with the same group of players they are now mid table! Some managers just aren't good enough and drag the players down with them. Slade is in that bracket! And you could also apply the same to Norwich!

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:35 am

Jimbo27 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.

You make my point very well thank you
As you say Marshall manga Morrison fabio whitts etc would all start in your team just like they start in slades
Sadly there performances would let you down just like they are letting slade down :bluescarf:


You actually make my point for me! Look at Palace! They were going down under Warnock, in came Pardew and with the same group of players they are now mid table! Some managers just aren't good enough and drag the players down with them. Slade is in that bracket! And you could also apply the same to Norwich!

Yes and palace and Norwich never sold off or got rid of a third of there squad and had to reduce the wage bill by 12 million :bluescarf:

Re: Trollope today

Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:40 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:Slade's managerial career to date, and what he has shown here, proves conclusively that he is out of his depth! 3 of the starting midfield today won the title under Malky! Our keeper is probably the best in the league and in the back 4 we have two £5m centre backs and a Brazilian international who has played in a champions league final. Slade should be doing far far better with what he has at his disposal! We certainly shouldn't be getting hammered on such a regular basis. Most managers at this level would kill for our squad and to have close to £1m to spend on a striker in the January transfer window.

You make my point very well thank you
As you say Marshall manga Morrison fabio whitts etc would all start in your team just like they start in slades
Sadly there performances would let you down just like they are letting slade down :bluescarf:


You actually make my point for me! Look at Palace! They were going down under Warnock, in came Pardew and with the same group of players they are now mid table! Some managers just aren't good enough and drag the players down with them. Slade is in that bracket! And you could also apply the same to Norwich!

Yes and palace and Norwich never sold off or got rid of a third of there squad and had to reduce the wage bill by 12 million :bluescarf:


Even before we started to loan players out Slade had already shown in games like Rotherham, Reading, Brentford and Watforf that he was out if his depth! And my point remains, managers at Palace and Norwich took over struggling teams and with the same group of players improved them. We still have a hell of a lot of talent in our squad and it is bring totally squandered. It's not even as if Slade's previous 20 years in management show we should be doing any different. We just need to accept that yes he has inherited a mess but at the same time we still have a good core of players and he just isn't good enough. If he stays he will take us down!

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:16 am

bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.


Russell Slade won League 1 Manager of the year voting last year ahead of Mark Warburton and Kenny Jackett.

Next season will be a lot better.

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:51 am

mjw6150 wrote:
bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.


Russell Slade won League 1 Manager of the year voting last year ahead of Mark Warburton and Kenny Jackett.

Next season will be a lot better.


That was Warburton's first season in management! Look how well he's done at a higher level. Jackett has already proven himself at this level and has promotion experience. In 20 years Slade has done nothing. And at a higher level this year he has been dreadful. To say he will do better next year is based on nothing but blind faith. People said the same about Ole!

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:59 am

Jimbo27 wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.


Russell Slade won League 1 Manager of the year voting last year ahead of Mark Warburton and Kenny Jackett.

Next season will be a lot better.


That was Warburton's first season in management! Look how well he's done at a higher level. Jackett has already proven himself at this level and has promotion experience. In 20 years Slade has done nothing. And at a higher level this year he has been dreadful. To say he will do better next year is based on nothing but blind faith. People said the same about Ole!


He took over in November 2013 so arguably he is was (and still is) riding from the coat tails of Rosler's success there.

Slade has taken several teams to play-off finals (and massively punching above weight in process with likes of Orient and Yeovil) and never been relegated in his career.

I'm not saying he is Mourinho but he is nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. The real issue at Cardiff is the incredibly high expectations of the fans and hopefully these are lower next season with us becoming a mid-table Championship side as opposed to a relegated PL side when this season is said and done.

I am sure Slade will get us higher up the table than this season at the very least next season.

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:04 am

mjw6150 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.


Russell Slade won League 1 Manager of the year voting last year ahead of Mark Warburton and Kenny Jackett.

Next season will be a lot better.


That was Warburton's first season in management! Look how well he's done at a higher level. Jackett has already proven himself at this level and has promotion experience. In 20 years Slade has done nothing. And at a higher level this year he has been dreadful. To say he will do better next year is based on nothing but blind faith. People said the same about Ole!


He took over in November 2013 so arguably he is was (and still is) riding from the coat tails of Rosler's success there.

Slade has taken several teams to play-off finals (and massively punching above weight in process with likes of Orient and Yeovil) and never been relegated in his career.

In 20 years he hasn't come close to Warburton's success. His style of play, selection, tactics and subs are incredibly bad! Probably the worst I've seen in 30 years! Yes he took Orient to the play offs last year but look where they were when he left! They couldn't wait to get rid of him.

I'm not saying he is Mourinho but he is nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. The real issue at Cardiff is the incredibly high expectations of the fans and hopefully these are lower next season with us becoming a mid-table Championship side as opposed to a relegated PL side when this season is said and done.

I am sure Slade will get us higher up the table than this season at the very least next season.

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:08 am

In over 20 years Slade hasnt come close to Warburton's success. Yes he took Orient to the play offs but look where they were when he left! They couldn't wait to get rid of him. His style of play, team selection, tactics and substitutions defy belief ! I've never seen us play so poorly on such a regular basis. There is absolutely nothing positive to look at when it comes to Slade or to think we will have some miraculous improvement under him. All signs point to failure!

Re: " Trollope today "

Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:10 am

Jimbo27 wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Jimbo27 wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
bluemun wrote:Warburton! Available end of season and a proven manager. Obvious choice. However, Tan's man will not be sacked.


Russell Slade won League 1 Manager of the year voting last year ahead of Mark Warburton and Kenny Jackett.

Next season will be a lot better.


That was Warburton's first season in management! Look how well he's done at a higher level. Jackett has already proven himself at this level and has promotion experience. In 20 years Slade has done nothing. And at a higher level this year he has been dreadful. To say he will do better next year is based on nothing but blind faith. People said the same about Ole!


He took over in November 2013 so arguably he is was (and still is) riding from the coat tails of Rosler's success there.

Slade has taken several teams to play-off finals (and massively punching above weight in process with likes of Orient and Yeovil) and never been relegated in his career.

In 20 years he hasn't come close to Warburton's success. His style of play, selection, tactics and subs are incredibly bad! Probably the worst I've seen in 30 years! Yes he took Orient to the play offs last year but look where they were when he left! They couldn't wait to get rid of him.

I'm not saying he is Mourinho but he is nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. The real issue at Cardiff is the incredibly high expectations of the fans and hopefully these are lower next season with us becoming a mid-table Championship side as opposed to a relegated PL side when this season is said and done.

I am sure Slade will get us higher up the table than this season at the very least next season.


Hasn't come close to Warburton's success? Warburton got promoted last season (ALL the success he has had) with a much bigger budget than Slade (and only pipped Orient in the last two months) whilst Slade has almost got two teams promoted from L1, that's pretty close right?

Slade's football is better than Ole's and more attractive than Mackay's. We are far better than we were in the days of Division Three.

Yes because Orient are so much better off without him. He got manager of the year and had lost a play-off final. Teams often need time to come over a knock like that. Everyone tipped Derby to win league this year and they're struggling to get into play-offs.