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Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:34 pm
When a manager calls a game a must win but chooses to leave the top scorer on the bench and the best defender we have at the club sat there too, we have to question what the manager is thinking.
I looked at the bench today, Jones, Manga, Fabio, Macheda, Adeyemi, Ralls and Wilson and thought at least we got a strong bench but why are some of those not playing?
Fans right up until yesterday were saying to me we won't get relegated, simply because the teams in the bottom three are so bad, well those bottom three all gained on us today and I keep reminding people that last season how many pundits and fans said Crystal Palace and Sunderland were certain to be relegated from the Premier League!
We are in a relegation battle there cannot be any doubt about it.
1 win in 9 league games is our form at this moment, there are 18 games left of the season, it doesn't take much working out does it?
Slade is bringing in players who are not stars, he is restricted in what he can spend but when he leaves our best attacking option on the bench when we are desperate for a win is just indefensible.
Slade is hopelessly out of his depth, he hasn't got the support staff around to even help him, he is on hiding to nothing and I have said that from day one but I was prepared to give the guy a chance but I can't continue to defend a manager who makes decisions like he did today.
The players are not fighting for him, whether that is right or wrong it is something that needs addressing and it must be dealt with asap.
There were minor improvements today with the performance, the new boys did ok, didn't set the world alight but they done ok but truthfully the performance couldn't be any worse could it ?
I believe that the majority of fans have lost faith in Russell Slade and on a number of performances I believe that many of the players do not believe in him either, if I am correct then for the sake of our status as a Championship club then Slade has to be replaced.
Of course that presents its own problems because I worry that Vincent Tan would make the next appointment.
As controversial as this is going to be, I think our best option for all concerned would be to bring in Dave Jones, he has worked without big money previously, he has worked with Tan too, it is not an ideal choice but I think it is the best choice we have at present.
This is not a knee jerk reaction, the transfer window is about to close and the majority of our business is completed, now we need a manager who can galvanise the team and stop the rot because under Slade I don't think these players are going to step up.
Dave Jones, especially in the short to medium term would steady the ship and secure our position in this league, I really do fear that if Slade remains in charge we are slip sliding away to League One.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:41 pm
I could not wait for Dave Jones to leave our club.
Now I would welcome him back with open arms.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:42 pm
Agree with that
Dave Jones in a temporary role wouldn't be the worst thing, it can't get any worse can it?
If Slade stays, I fully expect us to get relegated.
Only seven points in it, and that's nothing with 18 games to go.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:43 pm
davids wrote:I could not wait for Dave Jones to leave our club.
Now I would welcome him back with open arms.
I was always a huge supporter of the work Dave Jones did here but his final season had to be his final season, he had taken the club as far as he could with the backing he had.
But we have gone backwards massively and I think because he knows Tan it is our best option.
Most managers would probably shy away from working with Tan based on the negativity in the media about our club.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:44 pm
davids wrote:I could not wait for Dave Jones to leave our club.
Now I would welcome him back with open arms.
Me too, however overall his record was good, just messed up the last 2 seasons, don't like the man but I would take him any day of week to see the back of the clown we have in charge, Neil Warnock would be be my choice though
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:46 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Agree with that
Dave Jones in a temporary role wouldn't be the worst thing, it can't get any worse can it?
If Slade stays, I fully expect us to get relegated.
Only seven points in it, and that's nothing with 18 games to go.
Ned, 7 points is nothing.
Millwall win next week and we lose and if Slade is in charge then I really do believe Tan would fire him, though I do believe there is a strong possibility he will be gone before Sheffiekd Wednesday.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear of a meeting with senior players and the chairman and ceo this week.
Desperate times indeed.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:46 pm
Talk about loosing faith in Slade, I never had any in him in the beginning. Fair enough, He inherited a shambles, but its a shambles that he's gone on to embellish into little more than a pathetic farce.
I said weeks ago that we would be dragged into a relegation battle, the problem is, we have no leaders, or warriors to win it!
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Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:46 pm
Bring back DJ
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:48 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Talk about loosing faith in Slade, I never had any in him in the beginning. Fair enough, He inherited a shambles, but its a shambles he gone on to embellish into little more than a pathetic farce.
I said weeks ago that we would be dragged into a relegation battle, the problem is, we have no leaders, or warriors to win it!
The players don't look like they are fighting for him and that spells disaster.
Dalman should be already speaking with Tan and meeting with Marshall and senior players to find out the truth.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:52 pm
Absolutely NO.
The City job is a poisoned chalice at th moment, but IF we are to change managers, and I think that would not be a good move, let's cast the net a bit wider than our exes.
Just to throw a name in the hat, but I think Nigel Adkins is out of a job at the moment and Brian McDermott just to start.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:52 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Carlos
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DAVE JONES

Atleast he will dust the players down annis and go again
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:55 pm
In fairness to DJ, he had a fraction of the money our last 3 managers have enjoyed and although each manager has felt the need to change the squad, the quality of the players up till recently has been really good.
DJ is used to grinding out away draws and defending leads even if that means less spectacular gameplay. Let's face it, the entertainment factor is sadly missing at the moment anyway.
I would go with DJ as a temp and look for a descent manager (who may be expensive) to replace him when things are stable.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:56 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Carlos
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DAVE JONES

the question that should be asked is can Dave Jones do anything with this squad?
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:59 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Carlos
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DAVE JONES

the question that should be asked is can Dave Jones do anything with this squad?
Ian the players will respect DJ i think unlike slade who was an unknown to most of them no doubt its as if they cba to play for him or the club now, only the new ones hes brought in are having a go from what ive seen
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:00 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Carlos
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DAVE JONES

the question that should be asked is can Dave Jones do anything with this squad?
Ian the players will respect DJ i think unlike slade who was an unknown to most of them no doubt its as if they cba to play for him or the club now, only the new ones hes brought in are having a go from what ive seen

And those new players will soon become disillusioned too Ian.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:09 pm
Slade is doing his job - league one level - that's all he's got to offer and nothing else ! Scott young not helping either get ready for the drop
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:10 pm
carlccfc wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Carlos
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DAVE JONES

the question that should be asked is can Dave Jones do anything with this squad?
Ian the players will respect DJ i think unlike slade who was an unknown to most of them no doubt its as if they cba to play for him or the club now, only the new ones hes brought in are having a go from what ive seen

And those new players will soon become disillusioned too Ian.
Results do that and sadly we aint getting any no matter how new a player is to a club im sure he wants to win but to me its like the other complacent players have given up on slade but most of all US THE FANS
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:12 pm
No direction no pace tempo and flat something needs sorting and quick.
Slade was is a mistake as was playing in red tan needs to see sense get rid offslade before its too late.
Shipping managers aint good but we have to its dire to sit and watch it.
We need direction and a philosophy which is missing .
The rot has to stop and now so over to the ceo and the main players running the club to act now. Also tan cant choose the managers but who else would you trust dalaman brought in rubbish to its worring times.
Who knows if they will even sack slade but if they do what will they do next Bobby gould you never no with this lot
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:18 pm
It all depends on who his no2 would be,DJ with Scott Young would take us down!!!!
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:20 pm
theclaw wrote:It all depends on who his no2 would be,DJ with Scott Young would take us down!!!!
Good point but can't see Terry Burton leaving West Brom.
Bellamy as number 2 to DJ ?
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:28 pm
Karl Robinson would be my choice
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:28 pm
carlccfc wrote:theclaw wrote:It all depends on who his no2 would be,DJ with Scott Young would take us down!!!!
Good point but can't see Terry Burton leaving West Brom.
Bellamy as number 2 to DJ ?
Carl,
Is Bellamy working at the club currently?
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:29 pm
While Slade should go let's not forget the teams we have played in last 10 games or so All the Top 6 ?? But can't afford to rely on him getting results against anyone now! So off with his head! Dj/bellers combination sounds good
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:31 pm
Warnock
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:36 pm
davids wrote:carlccfc wrote:theclaw wrote:It all depends on who his no2 would be,DJ with Scott Young would take us down!!!!
Good point but can't see Terry Burton leaving West Brom.
Bellamy as number 2 to DJ ?
Carl,
Is Bellamy working at the club currently?
He is coaching at our academy.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:40 pm
carlccfc wrote:davids wrote:carlccfc wrote:theclaw wrote:It all depends on who his no2 would be,DJ with Scott Young would take us down!!!!
Good point but can't see Terry Burton leaving West Brom.
Bellamy as number 2 to DJ ?
Carl,
Is Bellamy working at the club currently?
He is coaching at our academy.
I wonder what his thoughts are about the current situation.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:50 pm
This team has relegation written all over it. No team spirit, no leaders, clueless owner and until very recently completely dis-United fan base. A manager who is totally out of his depth and has no respect among the players. League 1 awaits folks. At least we will be left with just real fans.....
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:51 pm
Only a handful of managers have to work under similar circumstances as slade. Managing a club is not an exact science. Alex Ferguson could be managing us and id expect similar results.
Players losing friends at the drop of a hat. Our best players been flogged off for nothing. Players not knowing whether they'll be sold tomorrow. Putting in good performances means zero if tan wants them gone.
All things slade has no control over.
He has been in charge 4 months now. We have played badly recently but when he first arrived we saw a few very competitive games. What has changed? Tan selling off members of the squad.
That is the major factor here which has destroyed and morale at the club.
Whoever is change changes nothing. Confidence is so low because of tan. Putting Dave Jones in changes nothing. Only destabilising us and making us even bigger joke around Britain. That is what we become even more if we get rid of him after such a short time.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:52 pm
Terry Burton come home
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