Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remains

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:15 pm

Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:26 pm

We do need a Dof.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:28 pm

Have to agree with you.

And keeps listening to the wrong people.

Why on earth would anyone listen to a recommendation from someone like Glenn Roeder?

Tan is an egotist who surrounds himself with totally the wrong people for the business he is in - can't be the same in his other businesses or he wouldn't be the success he is.

Needs to learn quickly if he wants this venture to be successful.

Or he's taking great pleasure in shafting us!

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:35 pm

the football is shocking and it's his club. Vincent Tan and his nauseating, atrocious brand of football. Coming to the MLS soon lol

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:


While I totally agree with you and while the footballing and off field decisions have been awful, part of me also understands you cant always have it all your own way. We have been in the top 6 of the championship for a very long time and a year in the prem. Granted your WBA, West Ham Norwich of this world have continued to be a prem or top championship side but plenty over the years have fallen off, Derby, Shef Utd, Scabs, Wolves to name but a few. It happens. Just look at Southampton!!!

My point is while Tan has made bad decisions, look at the above mentioned and realise no guarantee that with a good owner you will get overnight success.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:59 pm

The further Tan is away the better for all. Dalman could be a good CEO if Vinnie didn't keep making executive decisions.

I guess Vinnie is planning to make a £20/30 million or better loss after the parachute payments are over, so I am expecting the asset (player) stripping to continue for the next 2 seasons.

Swansea, Burnley, Blackpool have all done it on limited budget, but to get the golden ticket, you need to be in the championship. So I think he'll need to give Dalman some power.

I doubt we will get a mention in VT empire.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:03 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:05 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:


While I totally agree with you and while the footballing and off field decisions have been awful, part of me also understands you cant always have it all your own way. We have been in the top 6 of the championship for a very long time and a year in the prem. Granted your WBA, West Ham Norwich of this world have continued to be a prem or top championship side but plenty over the years have fallen off, Derby, Shef Utd, Scabs, Wolves to name but a few. It happens. Just look at Southampton!!!

My point is while Tan has made bad decisions, look at the above mentioned and realise no guarantee that with a good owner you will get overnight success.


Of course there is no guarantee in football,but 6 CEOS'S & 4 Managers, plus 70 plus players and a club further in debt is not a club going forward in my opinion.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:07 pm

Your right malkay, ole and Slade all bad appointments with much better options out there. He gave it a go and pumped his money in but was badly advised by others.
Tan says Slade was his appointment but we all know it was down to roeder.

Understandably Tan now expects the club to be self sufficient so the expensive players have gone and the new manager has to work miracles on a shoestring. Trouble is Slade just hasn't got what it takes to perform those miracles so we are just going to have to put up with rubbish until the debts are reduced by the parachute payments so the club then becomes saleable and we can then moan about the next owner and get used to having money troubles again.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.



Wez, So what is your solution or are u happy with everything ?

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:08 pm

Tan made the fatal mistake of believing a football club can be run just like any of his other businesses. So he expelled anyone with football knowledge from the club and replaced them with a bunch of accountants/managers/mates of his son whose only qualification for the job is that they are Tan yes-men.

The appointment of Slade is simply the latest in a series of disastrous football decisions taken by the club. Cardiff City were less than 6 months out of the Premier League when the future of the club was entrusted to the opinion of one Glenn Roeder who managed to convince Tan that his mate Slade was the next Arsene Wenger :lol:

I agree sacking Slade is largely pointless as Tan's next manager will likely be an even weirder choice. Unfortunately until there is a change of ownership Cardiff City appears doomed.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:11 pm

1899 wrote:Tan made the fatal mistake of believing a football club can be run just like any of his other businesses. So he expelled anyone with football knowledge from the club and replaced them with a bunch of accountants/managers/mates of his son whose only qualification for the job is that they are Tan yes-men.

The appointment of Slade is simply the latest in a series of disastrous football decisions taken by the club. Cardiff City were less than 6 months out of the Premier League when the future of the club was entrusted to the opinion of one Glenn Roeder who managed to convince Tan that his mate Slade was the next Arsene Wenger :lol:

I agree sacking Slade is largely pointless as Tan's next manager will likely be an even weirder choice. Unfortunately until there is a change of ownership Cardiff City appears doomed.


Virtually similar to how I see it.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.


But Dalman appointed Ole and Ole turned out to be a huge mistake and for this you put the blame on Tan and not Dalman?

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:14 pm

bluelover wrote:Your right malkay, ole and Slade all bad appointments with much better options out there. He gave it a go and pumped his money in but was badly advised by others.
Tan says Slade was his appointment but we all know it was down to roeder.

Understandably Tan now expects the club to be self sufficient so the expensive players have gone and the new manager has to work miracles on a shoestring. Trouble is Slade just hasn't got what it takes to perform those miracles so we are just going to have to put up with rubbish until the debts are reduced by the parachute payments so the club then becomes saleable and we can then moan about the next owner and get used to having money troubles again.

:lol:

A lot of truth in that :lol: :thumbright:

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:17 pm

davids wrote:Have to agree with you.

And keeps listening to the wrong people.

Why on earth would anyone listen to a recommendation from someone like Glenn Roeder?

Tan is an egotist who surrounds himself with totally the wrong people for the business he is in - can't be the same in his other businesses or he wouldn't be the success he is.

Needs to learn quickly if he wants this venture to be successful.

Or he's taking great pleasure in shafting us!


David, has been badly advised,but then he listened to non football people for the first couple of years.
He also thought we were going to be easy to make money out off and did not realise what a football club was like to run.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:25 pm

the club is lost it seems to me nobody is football minded
tan picked slade not slades fault
sponsers forced tan back to BLUE
low sales of merchandies
we need a new leader on the board in the dugout and on the pitch

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
davids wrote:Have to agree with you.

And keeps listening to the wrong people.

Why on earth would anyone listen to a recommendation from someone like Glenn Roeder?

Tan is an egotist who surrounds himself with totally the wrong people for the business he is in - can't be the same in his other businesses or he wouldn't be the success he is.

Needs to learn quickly if he wants this venture to be successful.

Or he's taking great pleasure in shafting us!


David, has been badly advised,but then he listened to non football people for the first couple of years.
He also thought we were going to be easy to make money out off and did not realise what a football club was like to run.


Absolutely and no doubts we have suffered as a result. Having said that Dalman nearly made it as a footballer and is a lover of the game and Roeder as bad as we know him to be is not a non football person and it has still gone all wrong. It's simply about getting the right manager in just as it is for any other club out there. There are no guarantees in football, we have seen enough crap football from City over the years to know that.

I would just love to know what was it that made Tan completely dismiss Tony Pulis. It was so obvious he would have been a success here but perhaps he wanted a budget and Tan was so pissed off with us then he just didn;t want to give us our favourite :(

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:36 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.



Wez, So what is your solution or are u happy with everything ?

Just seem over the years you have never been happy with the club or the regime and have always had a protest of some sort just wondering when it will all stop ,will there ever be a time that you support the club with out a dig at it ,the club seem to be in transition at the the moment looks like tan has learned now and us cutting and trying to get us self sufficient ,May be a bit of support on here would be helpful

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:40 pm

we have a championship/ league 2 team, were not going up. so live in the cardiff city world

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:43 pm

What football knowledge do we have up top.........none.

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:


Well well it's taken a week before it starts again :bluescarf:

Is it the leadership or just to get hits on the site :ayatollah:

Trust you had a safe journey :bluescarf:

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:



On first glance, and especially coming a week after our return to Blue this appears a winging post However, when you look at the details as to how the club is wrong you are sadly 100% correct!

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:58 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.



Wez, So what is your solution or are u happy with everything ?

Just seem over the years you have never been happy with the club or the regime and have always had a protest of some sort just wondering when it will all stop ,will there ever be a time that you support the club with out a dig at it ,the club seem to be in transition at the the moment looks like tan has learned now and us cutting and trying to get us self sufficient ,May be a bit of support on here would be helpful

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:00 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:
will you ever be happy Annis ?


Yes Wez, when we have a decent manager,who is allowed to get on with the job, a CEO who know,s how tu run a football Club and an owner who allows this to happen.


Tans best appointment Dalman, prob is Dalman can't spend a a much time as he would like at our club,as he has his own businesses to run.



Wez, So what is your solution or are u happy with everything ?

Just seem over the years you have never been happy with the club or the regime and have always had a protest of some sort just wondering when it will all stop ,will there ever be a time that you support the club with out a dig at it ,the club seem to be in transition at the the moment looks like tan has learned now and us cutting and trying to get us self sufficient ,May be a bit of support on here would be helpful


Wez, as usual you avoid my questions to you?

I was happy with Bob Crogan :thumbright: :thumbright:

Support the club, I'm still on my way home from NORWICH, I never stopped signing today and clapped every player off at the end.Boro away on Tues :thumbright:
Rem I support my team every season no matter what division we are in, unlike many who stop the minute our team is crap etc
I've given my reasons, what's yours?
What's the solution?

Are u happy with everything at the moment?

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:02 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:


Well well it's taken a week before it starts again :bluescarf:

Is it the leadership or just to get hits on the site :ayatollah:

Trust you had a safe journey :bluescarf:


Nothing has improved on the pitch ?
We're you there today?
I'm still on coach travelling back, not interested in hits,just posting my beliefs and opinions :thumbright:

So what's your opinion of how everything is at the moment?

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:05 pm

Jupiter wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:



On first glance, and especially coming a week after our return to Blue this appears a winging post However, when you look at the details as to how the club is wrong you are sadly 100% correct!


Sat on the coach,just thinking about the facts and expressing my views :thumbright:

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:06 pm

darts wrote:the club is lost it seems to me nobody is football minded
tan picked slade not slades fault
sponsers forced tan back to BLUE
low sales of merchandies
we need a new leader on the board in the dugout and on the pitch


Watch it,your not allowed your true opinions or beliefs on here :lol:

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:07 pm

wez i have diagreed with annis and other over the years
but will always follow the BLUEBIRDS we are poor at the moment
tan must change manager

Re: Sack Slade/ Sack the players /But the Real Problem Remai

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Pulisnewport wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Vincent Tan, he is 100% Cardiff City's Problem

Clueless regarding a football club
Making daft footballing decisions
Appointing time after time the wrong people from CEO'S to Managers

I will prob get stick,but it's my belief and opinion and has been for 3 years.

Opinions Please :thumbright:


Well well it's taken a week before it starts again :bluescarf:

Is it the leadership or just to get hits on the site :ayatollah:

Trust you had a safe journey :bluescarf:


Nothing has improved on the pitch ?
We're you there today?
I'm still on coach travelling back, not interested in hits,just posting my beliefs and opinions :thumbright:

So what's your opinion of how everything is at the moment?


Not there today or Tuesday take my hat off to you.

I been there when you been sunning yourself in Majorca lol.

Family commitments and they come first.

Wrong Manager (gave him a chance) even a good name would have made us play better with the squad we already had ie Hughton,Clark,Holloway and even DJ as they know this League.

It's not all VT fault but he does need someone who knows us, the city, the Welsh and football in general :bluescarf: