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Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:35 am

I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:36 am

maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


Not for me, I don't know any club that idolises the owner even the best ones. That is not the culture of football, he needs to get a grip of that fact

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:46 am

ThomasC wrote:
maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


Not for me, I don't know any club that idolises the owner even the best ones. That is not the culture of football, he needs to get a grip of that fact


Us and Sam Hamamm.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:22 am

maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


I agree with this. I think we should at least show him how much this means to us before AND AFTER if it does happen today

even if it's just a song to say "we're all together in blue" fans and Tan if it does happen.

One reason that not many clubs idolise their owner (and we're not even talking about that so much) is because most owners don't plough £150 million of their own cash into the club to keep it afloat.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:29 am

No.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:00 am

No

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:54 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:No.


Why not?

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:58 pm

Not for me, Still don't like the bloke.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:40 pm

I kinda like the idea, it feeds his ego while having a bit of a dig :lol:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:43 pm

2blue2handle wrote:I kinda like the idea, it feeds his ego while having a bit of a dig :lol:



will he see it as a dig? :lol:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:45 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I kinda like the idea, it feeds his ego while having a bit of a dig :lol:



will he see it as a dig? :lol:


I doubt it, which makes it even better.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:57 pm

Were there any songs for VT?

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:02 pm

GSO Cardiff City wrote:
maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


I agree with this. I think we should at least show him how much this means to us before AND AFTER if it does happen today

even if it's just a song to say "we're all together in blue" fans and Tan if it does happen.

One reason that not many clubs idolise their owner (and we're not even talking about that so much) is because most owners don't plough £150 million of their own cash into the club to keep it afloat.



Agree with you two, he has invested loads and is now learning.

If his ego is boosted and he does feel important and liked, he may push on. I know he would love for Slade to succeed, but think he will realise he is not the man in the summer and hopefully can get a Manager capable of a promtion push next year.........

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:04 pm

For righting a problem that he made in the first place? I appreciate him rectifying his own mistake, but I won't be joining in any sort of Tan love-in or start singing his name.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:10 pm

maccydee wrote:Were there any songs for VT?


Yes, Some man by me who used to sing "Vincent tan you're a wanker" is now singing "Vincent tan is a bluebird" :?

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:18 pm

Will we now sing Vincent Tan's blue army?........is this a wind up thread :shock: Not for me sorry, he changed back what he shouldnt have changed to start with clearly it didnt work MONEY wise otherwise we would be still red thats a fact and the only reason he changed us back blue.
:bluescarf:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:21 pm

Xcasual wrote:
maccydee wrote:Were there any songs for VT?


Yes, Some man by me who used to sing "Vincent tan you're a wanker" is now singing "Vincent tan is a bluebird" :?

Are yiu sure that isn't Vincents mam is a bluebird?

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:22 pm

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true. :roll:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:25 pm

Xcasual wrote:
maccydee wrote:Were there any songs for VT?


Yes, Some man by me who used to sing "Vincent tan you're a wanker" is now singing "Vincent tan is a bluebird" :?


I think that's the type of song we should be singing. It will appeal to his ego.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:13 pm

Lengee wrote:OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true. :roll:


This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:25 pm

Because I'm not that gullible to think he's one of us now.

He's returned us to our rightful colours. That's all he has done.

Thanks but anything beyond that nope.

Hes treated the fans like shit for years.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:41 pm

No he can f**k off

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:45 pm

GSO Cardiff City wrote:
Lengee wrote:OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true. :roll:


This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.


Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:52 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Because I'm not that gullible to think he's one of us now.

He's returned us to our rightful colours. That's all he has done.

Thanks but anything beyond that nope.

Hes treated the fans like shit for years.


He hasn't treated us like shit on anything more than the rebrand. You seem to have forgotten promotion, cup finals, play off finals, all of which he bankrolled.

A new stand and better facilities all round!

I even remember when he spent reportedly more on players than any other club has ever done following promotion. Can't you recall posters on this board gloating and praising loads of new signings like birthdays and Christmas were coming all at the same time.

And some of that whilst a small minority of our fans have been abusing him and even his family (when his daughter visited the stadium).

He's shown that he's man enough to admit his mistake and only the knobheads amongst our supporters will still be critical after that.

More importantly though is the fact that certain people still haven't grasped the fact that it was our acknowledgement and gratitude of what he's done so far that actually won him over the other night and that's the same approach that will keep him on side.

Or are we still dreaming of some other billionaire buying him out. Is that what the line on Sloper road was Saturday, a row of hopeful investors? and I thought it was for the burger van.

We need to learn from last weeks 'consortium' rubbish and start to realise how fortunate we are.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:56 pm

Skewett wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:Because I'm not that gullible to think he's one of us now.

He's returned us to our rightful colours. That's all he has done.

Thanks but anything beyond that nope.

Hes treated the fans like shit for years.


He hasn't treated us like shit on anything more than the rebrand. You seem to have forgotten promotion, cup finals, play off finals, all of which he bankrolled.

A new stand and better facilities all round!

I even remember when he spent reportedly more on players than any other club has ever done following promotion. Can't you recall posters on this board gloating and praising loads of new signings like birthdays and Christmas were coming all at the same

time.



And some of that whilst a small minority of our fans have been abusing him and even his family (when his daughter visited the stadium).

He's shown that he's man enough to admit his mistake and only the knobheads amongst our supporters will still be critical after that.

More importantly though is the fact that certain people still haven't grasped the fact that it was our acknowledgement and gratitude of what he's done so far that actually won him over the other night and that's the same approach that will keep him on side.

Or are we still dreaming of some other billionaire buying him out. Is that what the line on Sloper road was Saturday, a row of hopeful investors? and I thought it was for the burger van.

We need to learn from last weeks 'consortium' rubbish and start to realise how fortunate we are.


Oh my god some people,let's bend over to Mr Tan again,no thanks.
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Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:57 pm

No just no.

Very grateful for the reversal tho :bluescarf:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:59 pm

maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


Absolutely no chance from me. Some of us might be happy to worship Tan as a hero now, but I will personally not forgive Tan so easily for the torture he has put me through. People like Dalman and Choo are the proper heroes for getting that egotistical dictator to eventually see sense and undo the damage he caused to our club for the past 2 and a half seasons.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:06 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


Absolutely no chance from me. Some of us might be happy to worship Tan as a hero now, but I will personally not forgive Tan so easily for the torture he has put me through. People like Dalman and Choo are the proper heroes for getting that egotistical dictator to eventually see sense and undo the damage he caused to our club for the past 2 and a half seasons.


Well you could look at it a different way. If you truly believe he took us for a ride, why not reverse the process and suck up to him in order to take as much of his fortune as you can to make our team and club better.

Can't you even see it from that angle.

If anyone hasn't learnt a lesson from all of this, its posters that still think they can gain anything for Cardiff City by continuing with the negativity towards Tan.

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:11 pm

Our priority now should be to work towards getting a fan representative on the board, then slowly over the years to come to focus on the fans buying more and more shares. One day we may be in a position to have enough of a say at board level to stop anything like the rebrand EVER happening to us again at the hands of egotistical dictators like Tan ! :bluescarf:

Re: Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:34 pm

Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
maccydee wrote:I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?


Absolutely no chance from me. Some of us might be happy to worship Tan as a hero now, but I will personally not forgive Tan so easily for the torture he has put me through. People like Dalman and Choo are the proper heroes for getting that egotistical dictator to eventually see sense and undo the damage he caused to our club for the past 2 and a half seasons.


Well you could look at it a different way. If you truly believe he took us for a ride, why not reverse the process and suck up to him in order to take as much of his fortune as you can to make our team and club better.

Can't you even see it from that angle.

If anyone hasn't learnt a lesson from all of this, its posters that still think they can gain anything for Cardiff City by continuing with the negativity towards Tan.


But I'm not going to be negative to Tan. I'm not going to boo him or sing anti Tan songs now we're back in blue. All I said in my post was I will still refuse to cheer for him. The OP's suggestion of singing a song to glorify Tan wrecking our club for the past 2 and a half seasons and then correcting his mistake is absolutely ridiculous imo. It certainly doesn't make him a hero in my eyes anyway.