" SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Why are you not renewing your season tickets for 2015/16 Season?

If its because of the Rebrand, then why did we have 22,500 season ticket holders nearly 2 years ago,then 18,200 season ticket holders renew in February/March 2014?

I have Hated/Detested the Rebrand from day one,but I chose to Support Cardiff City No matter what and continue to keep our Club BLUE within the Stadium, Many many City fans told me to move on regarding the Rebrand Now the same ones are not renewing?

In 2012 I never went with the flow of Red and got stick for it massively and today I seem to be going against the flow again and getting stick again, but I have remained consistent and always been for the BLUE & OUR BADGE nothing else

I totally Respect those that walked away in 2012, but why now?

Surely you should of not renewed from day one?

HONESTY PLEASE?

The only way to do it is by not going,

People might think its a wasted process as many more will still go. But the snowball always starts small and slow and will build up when the average fan starts joining in, which they will eventually. it might take over half a season but it will happen.

We arent going to get promoted, Tan isnt going to put cash in for us to get promoted, we arent going to attract new fans without us doing well in this league.

Ive not had a season ticket for 5 years since i was 25 with working away both uk and overseas, but for the 12 years i had a season ticket i loved it. ive been to roughly 8 games a season lately, and this season is just hard work to motivate myself to go back to cardiff for a game,

Its not worth the money at the moment ,£460 I paid

reconciled myself with not endorsing the rebrand by not buying any red or new badge merchandise or even programmes, in truth that's quite shallow and self serving. It was my club and wasn't missing a season because the owner did save the club but was a bit eccentric, i thought it may pass, but give it a go.

The red is hard to stomach, but we all did it for two season, when you add in the disorganisation and pure guess work at the top it time for me to show I am not happy. I won't be going on protests, but I won't be renewing. That doesn't mean not attending, I'll just not commit to the entire season

I kept going wearing blue until this season because wearing blue at least keeps our tradition alive. However, travelling to Bournemouth to watch us play in Swansea's white, followed by Tan's Christmas statement makes me realise it simply doesn't matter how much blue we wear, how high we hold our blue scarfs or how much we protest. It doesn't matter because Tan said in his Christmas statement that he's aware how we feel, but we are staying red and those who protest against his ridiculous rebrand are "against the club".

Since the rebrand, we have fought a losing battle keeping our tradition alive, but when Match of the Day gave us zero coverage of our 19:27 protest when we were in the Premiership and with Tan continually destroying our club, being spiteful and taking the mick out of our fans this season, my next step will be supporting the "no blue no renew" campaign and not renew next season. I will still go to away games when I feel like, but I think it's the attendence figures at home that will matter next season. If we all renew and keep protesting next season, Tan will simply ignore us and laugh at us because we are still turning up and lining his pockets.

So I believe now is the time to build on our "no blue no renew" threat, build on Tim Hartley's excellent letter, attend the planned marches over the next couple of months and see what happens. If Tan gives in and we are back to blue next season, great. If not, we stick to our promises and not renew, as I think that is the only way Tan will take notice, that is the only way we can drive Tan out and that's the only way we will have any chance of getting the real Cardiff City back.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

For me I just don't enjoy it enough anymore, the rebrand is the main part of it but I think it's just bad news after bad news, one thing after another. I also have have more important things to spend my money on next year, not saying I couldn't find the money if I wanted to but I'm not going to stretch myself financially for something I don't really enjoy enough anymore.

I think a huge drop in season ticket sales is something tan will look at and consider from his "customers" so I will send a letter and support the no blue no renew in the hope he changes his mind but either way I can't see me renewing. No doubt ill take in a few games and just hope to see them in blue.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

If you honestly think that then you have no idea how some of our fans really feel. I don't care whether we are in the Premiership or Conference at the moment. I just want my club back and for my passion and emotional connection to return, whatever the level.

Why are you not renewing your season tickets for 2015/16 Season?

If its because of the Rebrand, then why did we have 22,500 season ticket holders nearly 2 years ago,then 18,200 season ticket holders renew in February/March 2014?

I have Hated/Detested the Rebrand from day one,but I chose to Support Cardiff City No matter what and continue to keep our Club BLUE within the Stadium, Many many City fans told me to move on regarding the Rebrand Now the same ones are not renewing?


In 2012 I never went with the flow of Red and got stick for it massively and today I seem to be going against the flow again and getting stick again, but I have remained consistent and always been for the BLUE & OUR BADGE nothing else

I totally Respect those that walked away in 2012, but why now?

Surely you should of not renewed from day one?

HONESTY PLEASE?

I think it's cause we are playing Shit if slade turns it around and we get promoted I wonder how many will then buy a season ticket ?

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

If you honestly think that then you have no idea how some of our fans really feel. I don't care whether we are in the Premiership or Conference at the moment. I just want my club back and for my passion and emotional connection to return, whatever the level.

Stay and fight then don't run away.
I guarantee you we'd be sold out if we were still in the premier, I understand completely how fickle football fans are.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

You may be right for a lot of people but that kinda makes it a good time to do it. Before a few people not renewing went unnoticed, it didn't matter who renewed someone would always have the ticket. Now a lot of people are fed up, now is the time where it will be noticed. It should have been done when it was first announced but it wasnt.

It's pretty much now or never .

Like a small band of other supporters, I got a refund on my ST in the summer of 2012 and it's interesting watching from afar...I think people are talking about boycotting at this point for a couple of reasons - some have just had enough of the off field circus and some are leaving because it's gone belly up on the pitch. Both legitimate reasons but there is undoubtedly a good degree of hypocrisy around and people saying they're 'boycotting' when really they are stopping because the footballs a bit shit..

Whatever the reasons, I think boycotting and starving Tans plaything of funds (let's be honest, it ain't Cardiff City FC as we knew it ) and rows and rows of empty seats next season will send out a far more powerful message than buying ST's and helping to continue funding the 'fake club.' If there are some big in ground protests planned for next season then it'll be worth potentially biting the bullet and attending those games but they should, imo, be very much the exception. It's a free country etc and it's only my opinion, but i believe that if fans want change they need to stop clicking through the turnstiles.

I never renewed in 2012 due to the rebrand.

Will not be returning until the club is Cardiff City

I never renewed in 2012 due to the rebrand.

Will not be returning until the club is Cardiff City

I kept going wearing blue until this season because wearing blue at least keeps our tradition alive. However, travelling to Bournemouth to watch us play in Swansea's white, followed by Tan's Christmas statement makes me realise it simply doesn't matter how much blue we wear, how high we hold our blue scarfs or how much we protest. It doesn't matter because Tan said in his Christmas statement that he's aware how we feel, but we are staying red and those who protest against his ridiculous rebrand are "against the club".

Since the rebrand, we have fought a losing battle keeping our tradition alive, but when Match of the Day gave us zero coverage of our 19:27 protest when we were in the Premiership and with Tan continually destroying our club, being spiteful and taking the mick out of our fans this season, my next step will be supporting the "no blue no renew" campaign and not renew next season. I will still go to away games when I feel like, but I think it's the attendence figures at home that will matter next season. If we all renew and keep protesting next season, Tan will simply ignore us and laugh at us because we are still turning up and lining his pockets.

So I believe now is the time to build on our "no blue no renew" threat, build on Tim Hartley's excellent letter, attend the planned marches over the next couple of months and see what happens. If Tan gives in and we are back to blue next season, great. If not, we stick to our promises and not renew, as I think that is the only way Tan will take notice, that is the only way we can drive Tan out and that's the only way we will have any chance of getting the real Cardiff City back.

I couldn't of said it any better. All the inside protests have been tried, which I'm not saying were wrong, but quite simply they haven't worked. Only way i can see we can make a change is not renewing. The fake attendance numbers will then be no more and even if that still doesn't work, I will b happier in that I tried to get the club back to how it should look.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

You may be right for a lot of people but that kinda makes it a good time to do it. Before a few people not renewing went unnoticed, it didn't matter who renewed someone would always have the ticket. Now a lot of people are fed up, now is the time where it will be noticed. It should have been done when it was first announced but it wasnt.

It's pretty much now or never .

I disagree, the time to make a statement and not renew was when the rebrand happened or when we got to the Premier (never goin to happen).
Fans not renewing now will be put down to poor performances and league position.

Why are you not renewing your season tickets for 2015/16 Season?

If its because of the Rebrand, then why did we have 22,500 season ticket holders nearly 2 years ago,then 18,200 season ticket holders renew in February/March 2014?

I have Hated/Detested the Rebrand from day one,but I chose to Support Cardiff City No matter what and continue to keep our Club BLUE within the Stadium, Many many City fans told me to move on regarding the Rebrand Now the same ones are not renewing?

In 2012 I never went with the flow of Red and got stick for it massively and today I seem to be going against the flow again and getting stick again, but I have remained consistent and always been for the BLUE & OUR BADGE nothing else

I totally Respect those that walked away in 2012, but why now?

Surely you should of not renewed from day one?

HONESTY PLEASE?

I think it's cause we are playing Shit if slade turns it around and we get promoted I wonder how many will then buy a season ticket ?

Wez, i think thats more to do with it than Tan.

If we were tearing up the league i know id make more of an effort to get back for games when i could and would make the 8 or so i usually do, not just 2 ive watched this season.

I kept going wearing blue until this season because wearing blue at least keeps our tradition alive. However, travelling to Bournemouth to watch us play in Swansea's white, followed by Tan's Christmas statement makes me realise it simply doesn't matter how much blue we wear, how high we hold our blue scarfs or how much we protest. It doesn't matter because Tan said in his Christmas statement that he's aware how we feel, but we are staying red and those who protest against his ridiculous rebrand are "against the club".

Since the rebrand, we have fought a losing battle keeping our tradition alive, but when Match of the Day gave us zero coverage of our 19:27 protest when we were in the Premiership and with Tan continually destroying our club, being spiteful and taking the mick out of our fans this season, my next step will be supporting the "no blue no renew" campaign and not renew next season. I will still go to away games when I feel like, but I think it's the attendence figures at home that will matter next season. If we all renew and keep protesting next season, Tan will simply ignore us and laugh at us because we are still turning up and lining his pockets.

So I believe now is the time to build on our "no blue no renew" threat, build on Tim Hartley's excellent letter, attend the planned marches over the next couple of months and see what happens. If Tan gives in and we are back to blue next season, great. If not, we stick to our promises and not renew, as I think that is the only way Tan will take notice, that is the only way we can drive Tan out and that's the only way we will have any chance of getting the real Cardiff City back.

Extremely well put Tonteg.

Im not going to renew and support what tans doing anymore as that's what it boils down to. Enoughs enough for me and I'm not prepared to pay out for something then moan about it 24/7 as it makes us look like idiots otherwise in my opinion, that's why I knocked it on the head this season. Instead I'll sit back and watch fans argue and moan about there franchise club while there buying in to it which makes no sence to me at all. It's Like going for a meal to the same place every week yet moan the foods shit and you don't like it when you leave yet your there the week after

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It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

You may be right for a lot of people but that kinda makes it a good time to do it. Before a few people not renewing went unnoticed, it didn't matter who renewed someone would always have the ticket. Now a lot of people are fed up, now is the time where it will be noticed. It should have been done when it was first announced but it wasnt.

It's pretty much now or never .

I disagree, the time to make a statement and not renew was when the rebrand happened or when we got to the Premier (never goin to happen).
Fans not renewing now will be put down to poor performances and league position.

You're right that was the time to do it but now we have a second chance to make a difference & everybody should grab it IMO.
I prefer to - 'forget the past & it's too late' attitude to do something positive & more aggressive like the NoBlueNoRenew with a letter.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

You may be right for a lot of people but that kinda makes it a good time to do it. Before a few people not renewing went unnoticed, it didn't matter who renewed someone would always have the ticket. Now a lot of people are fed up, now is the time where it will be noticed. It should have been done when it was first announced but it wasnt.

It's pretty much now or never .

I disagree, the time to make a statement and not renew was when the rebrand happened or when we got to the Premier (never goin to happen).
Fans not renewing now will be put down to poor performances and league position.

that's what I meant by the bold, totally agree that was the time but it didn't happen, we can't change that.

I just think even if 10000 season tickets didn't renew in the Premier tan wouldn't have ever noticed as those tickets still would have been sold, in fact he probably would have loved it and sold match day tickets a lot higher.

Next season some won't renew because price freeze has finished, some because of shit football, some just had enough but whatever the reason now is the time to play on those people, add to the amount and make it seem a real boycott.

Annis. This is the way I see it.when Tan said he would invest well over 100 million, most people including myself reluctantly accepted the re brand because we believed our club would be safe for the long term future ? Then Tan , Malky and OLe included went and wasted most of it. So now as fans we are pissed off because the Sacrifice wasn't worth it!!! We are now a Red club who is in no better position than we were 2 years ago... That's why most fans are rebeling now... That's my personal take on it...

Not renewing - due to the numerous things over a long period of time but mainly the white kit @ BOURNEMOUTH and xmas day speech topped it for me

No atmosphere at stadium

treated wrongly by stewards for singing and being proud to be blue

constant threats - reminders of banning orders for standing and singing

constant negative conversations with family and friends on match days

Manager or Tan constantly changing players week in week out

poor football over 90 mins

should never got this bad ever -we were in premier ship with quality players structure and Malky business year last November it was all down hill after that and Ole and Slade IMO have been dreadful appointments and now all our quality players are disappearing

LETS HOPE ONE DAY SOON OUR HOUSE IS PUT BACK IN ORDER AND WERE ALL SMILING AGAIN -HUGGING AND BRACING WITH EACH OTHER - WISHING MATCH DAY BE EVERYDAY

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERY CARDIFF CITY FAN - WE,LL ALWAYS BE BLUE

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Im not running with the crowd with my decision not to renew my season ticket next season, its a decision that i have come to myself. I had honestly made my decision, and informed my father and brother, also st holders, weeks before the no blue no renew my campaign had begun. They are both going to renew, and that's fine, its up to them. Personally, i have reached my tipping point, and it has nothing to do with results, style of play or league position. I am just fucked off with the whole atmosphere around the club, the red blue, and of course tan. If by some miracle we get promoted, my feelings will remain the same until tan is out of the club, and a boycott, as far as i can see, is the only action left to take.

Annis. This is the way I see it.when Tan said he would invest well over 100 million, most people including myself reluctantly accepted the re brand because we believed our club would be safe for the long term future ? Then Tan , Malky and OLe included went and wasted most of it. So now as fans we are pissed off because the Sacrifice wasn't worth it!!! We are now a Red club who is in no better position than we were 2 years ago... That's why most fans are rebeling now... That's my personal take on it...

Let's not forget we still await tans promise of a training ground and debt to equity.

It's laughable really.
Those saying they've had enough and are not renewing are a tad hypocritical.
The facts are if we were still in the Premier they'd renew in a heartbeat.

You may be right for a lot of people but that kinda makes it a good time to do it. Before a few people not renewing went unnoticed, it didn't matter who renewed someone would always have the ticket. Now a lot of people are fed up, now is the time where it will be noticed. It should have been done when it was first announced but it wasnt.

It's pretty much now or never .

I disagree, the time to make a statement and not renew was when the rebrand happened or when we got to the Premier (never goin to happen).
Fans not renewing now will be put down to poor performances and league position.

that's what I meant by the bold, totally agree that was the time but it didn't happen, we can't change that.

I just think even if 10000 season tickets didn't renew in the Premier tan wouldn't have ever noticed as those tickets still would have been sold, in fact he probably would have loved it and sold match day tickets a lot higher.

Next season some won't renew because price freeze has finished, some because of shit football, some just had enough but whatever the reason now is the time to play on those people, add to the amount and make it seem a real boycott.

Will not disagree with you Luke but won't fully agree .

By not renew don't you think this leaves the door open for Tan to get his red brigade in. What has kept the blue going was those of us who wore blue through this sad rebrand episode. You know the saying remove the man you remove the problem, well remove the blue........

Of course there is the comeback who will come wearing the red. Well if the price is right.......I always think of the red scarve give away when we talk on this subject.

Annis. This is the way I see it.when Tan said he would invest well over 100 million, most people including myself reluctantly accepted the re brand because we believed our club would be safe for the long term future ? Then Tan , Malky and OLe included went and wasted most of it. So now as fans we are pissed off because the Sacrifice wasn't worth it!!! We are now a Red club who is in no better position than we were 2 years ago... That's why most fans are rebeling now... That's my personal take on it...

Let's not forget we still await tans promise of a training ground and debt to equity.

Yes there's that too.

Attending games at the CCS is a miserable experience !

The atmosphere & football are both dire !

I do not like seeing the Bluebirds playing in red with the beermat badge one jot , it is a constant reminder of one man's wealth & power aligned to his complete football ignorance and disdain for the city of Cardiff , Cardiff City & it's fans .

It is a difficult decision to walk away from something you have loved & supported over a long period of time , there is no moral high ground here in stating the length each one of us has followed the City just as there is no moral high ground to claim I've /We've never liked the rebrand or stayed away since Tan's plans became evident ,( I remember Tan being introduced at the CCS , and he certainly wore a blue scarf that day ) .

There is no moral high ground to be taken in mentioning the date each one of us decided enough was enough whether it was two years ago ,at the end of our PL soiree , at the Bournemouth game or following Vincent Tan's Christmas Day interview on Sky Sports News !

What is important is where we go from now , there has been a recent upsurge in anti-Tan , anti-rebrand vitriol and yes no moral high ground in stating we should have reacted 2 or 3 years ago ! This is where we are and we must seize the opportunity to ensure Vincent Tan fully understands , the clamour for a return to blue & the Bluebird badge is the dominant matter he faces !

In my honest opinion I would like to see minimal renewal of STs but support for the club & protestation against Tan , not the regime , Tan is the target for me , on alternate weeks !

When we don't turn up he sees the empty seats , whether he's there or not ( incidentally the coward's absences this season speak volumes!) , when we are there he sees the Blue & the banners announcing TAN OUT ! He is solely responsible for the malaise around our great club ! We need to ensure he ( & the rest of the world ) sees & knows this , week in , week out !

The danger here is we pick our games individually , we miss for example , the "Rotherhams" but watch the "Forests" but this is when we need to be honest with ourselves & each other , week in , week out , we miss one , attend one !

Tan's snipers are always ready to fire his bullets , he has to see we are genuine & not some rag-tag fan base ready to flock to the CCS as soon as we string 4 wins together but stay away when Bournemouth, Brentford , Watford etc lower our colours !

Financially , our cash is small coal , what we do need to target is Tan's honour, pride & prestige , his good name as he sees it ! The biggest way of achieving this , again in my opinion & I do not claim to have the perfect solution, is for empty seats & #TANOUT banners to be globally visible week in , week out !

Annis, to quote one of your own posts from the other day -


For the first time ever I asked my daughter this morning,shall we pack in going to home games next season and just go away,Annaise replied but what would we do without Cardiff City and She still wants to go(she's nearly 14yrs old had a season ticket for 10 years). So I will still reluctantly be there and not enjoying it.


Given what you said there, why do you ask us why now? You are clearly feeling exactly the same as many of us. I don't think your getting stick, I suppose some are just disappointed because, rightly or wrongly, you do have a certain amount of influence and your boycott would be a big boost.

Attending games at the CCS is a miserable experience !

The atmosphere & football are both dire !

I do not like seeing the Bluebirds playing in red with the beermat badge one jot , it is a constant reminder of one man's wealth & power aligned to his complete football ignorance and disdain for the city of Cardiff , Cardiff City & it's fans .

It is a difficult decision to walk away from something you have loved & supported over a long period of time , there is no moral high ground here in stating the length each one of us has followed the City just as there is no moral high ground to claim I've /We've never liked the rebrand or stayed away since Tan's plans became evident ,( I remember Tan being introduced at the CCS , and he certainly wore a blue scarf that day ) .

There is no moral high ground to be taken in mentioning the date each one of us decided enough was enough whether it was two years ago ,at the end of our PL soiree , at the Bournemouth game or following Vincent Tan's Christmas Day interview on Sky Sports News !

What is important is where we go from now , there has been a recent upsurge in anti-Tan , anti-rebrand vitriol and yes no moral high ground in stating we should have reacted 2 or 3 years ago ! This is where we are and we must seize the opportunity to ensure Vincent Tan fully understands , the clamour for a return to blue & the Bluebird badge is the dominant matter he faces !

In my honest opinion I would like to see minimal renewal of STs but support for the club & protestation against Tan , not the regime , Tan is the target for me , on alternate weeks !

When we don't turn up he sees the empty seats , whether he's there or not ( incidentally the coward's absences this season speak volumes!) , when we are there he sees the Blue & the banners announcing TAN OUT ! He is solely responsible for the malaise around our great club ! We need to ensure he ( & the rest of the world ) sees & knows this , week in , week out !

The danger here is we pick our games individually , we miss for example , the "Rotherhams" but watch the "Forests" but this is when we need to be honest with ourselves & each other , week in , week out , we miss one , attend one !

Tan's snipers are always ready to fire his bullets , he has to see we are genuine & not some rag-tag fan base ready to flock to the CCS as soon as we string 4 wins together but stay away when Bournemouth, Brentford , Watford etc lower our colours !

Financially , our cash is small coal , what we do need to target is Tan's honour, pride & prestige , his good name as he sees it ! The biggest way of achieving this , again in my opinion & I do not claim to have the perfect solution, is for empty seats & #TANOUT banners to be globally visible week in , week out !

Spot on . Great post ...