slade or players the problem ?

cant get my head around the recent performances especially the last three ,its like we let ourself go a couple of goals down then try and come back is this down to slade or the players taking the piss

May have had a few decent results under Slade, but not good performances. Not sure how many games we've had under Slade where the fans have left feeling really good about the football played, not many if any I would say. Hope he can get things right, but not holding my breath.

May have had a few decent results under Slade, but not good performances. Not sure how many games we've had under Slade where the fans have left feeling really good about the football played, not many if any I would say. Hope he can get things right, but not holding my breath.

i just dont understand it

Bad feeling all over the club at the moment,the feelings in the stands are clearly spilling onto the pitch,a divided club will never be succesful

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

Think you are probably right about getting what you pay for. I hope he can turn things around for us, but he needs a proven experienced number two in my opinion. Not blaming him entirely as I have never agreed with those who said we had the best squad in this division. I have thought all along we had a mid table squad, and I think our league position is about where I would expect us to be with these players.

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

Think you are probably right about getting what you pay for. I hope he can turn things around for us, but he needs a proven experienced number two in my opinion. Not blaming him entirely as I have never agreed with those who said we had the best squad in this division. I have thought all along we had a mid table squad, and I think our league position is about where I would expect us to be with these players.

problem is we lack pace in central midfield that's our down fall I thought the lad we got fron Birmingham would of done a job but doesn't look like it

The problem is everyone, Tan, the fans, Slade, the players. If not everyone is pulling in the same direction you are going to fail.

1 decision from Tan can bring it all back together
Us fans need to get behind the team at the games
Slade needs to be more flexible with tactics. 4-4-2 against everyone doesn't work.
The players need to take responsibility and give their all. 2nd half was great, but the first half cannot be defended.

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

Think you are probably right about getting what you pay for. I hope he can turn things around for us, but he needs a proven experienced number two in my opinion. Not blaming him entirely as I have never agreed with those who said we had the best squad in this division. I have thought all along we had a mid table squad, and I think our league position is about where I would expect us to be with these players.

problem is we lack pace in central midfield that's our down fall I thought the lad we got fron Birmingham would of done a job but doesn't look like it

Wez, I've been through much worse than what's happening now. I didn't expect much this season, and we'll win a few, lose a few, and finish somewhere between 10th & 15th. I will be interested to see how we perform after the transfer window, and that may be a better time to pass judgement on Slade. If things don't improve then, I thing Tan will have to re think his strategy. Probably need a massive clear out of players & management. I think we can forget play offs this season, so I will just see how things pan out and try not to get too down hearted.

Problem is he is an experienced manager just a lower league one. He is no an up and coming manager who should need an experienced number two. Mind Scott young as his number two is a joke.

As for the squad I agree it's not the best but it doesn't help when a lot of good players are being ignored.

At this point, you need to simplify things and the manager by now should be providing a system and platform that has the squad performing both individually and as a team. That hasn't happened and will not happen as we have a manager and support staff clearly out of their depth as we have all observed. If it was any of us making executive staff decisions, I bet none of us would have made the informed and inspired decision of putting an unknown Division 3 manager in charge of a Division 2 club who had just been relegated from Division 1 and were looking to be immediately re-promoted. That decision I will never understand and while VT is here, I don't think we'll ever get a decent manager.

At this point, you need to simplify things and the manager by now should be providing a system and platform that has the squad performing both individually and as a team. That hasn't happened and will not happen as we have a manager and support staff clearly out of their depth as we have all observed. If it was any of us making executive staff decisions, I bet none of us would have made the informed and inspired decision of putting an unknown Division 3 manager in charge of a Division 2 club who had just been relegated from Division 1 and were looking to be immediately re-promoted. That decision I will never understand and while VT is here, I don't think we'll ever get a decent manager.

I always stick up for my club and have been trying to give slade ago but today was a turning point for me that's why I made this thread I think slade and the players are just not performing just hope we get some fresh new blood in the transfer Window ,pacey players with fight are a must

Problem is he is an experienced manager just a lower league one. He is no an up and coming manager who should need an experienced number two. Mind Scott young as his number two is a joke.

As for the squad I agree it's not the best but it doesn't help when a lot of good players are being ignored.

Agree

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

I'm done mate! Cannot watch this shambolic display anymore! Brought a friend for a tenner tonight and he stated it was his worst experience down the City since the Stoke game yrs ago at ninian park!


We had no clue, slow off the ball, set up was all to cock and no passion or belief from the players! I'm done and out! I cannot continue to support thisnlower league journey man who has no clue what to do or how to set up a team!

One other thing If anyone thinks that Ben turner is a footballer needs to take a long hard look at themselves! Quite possibly the worst defender I have ever seen in a football shirt! Id rather darcy Blake then than this Buffoon!!

cant get my head around the recent performances especially the last three ,its like we let ourself go a couple of goals down then try and come back is this down to slade or the players taking the piss

The whole club us rotten from the core out wards

We have three season tickets and only one person went. Couldn't give the other two away for free.

Conceded goals at.Bournemouth because we didn't close down, did exactly the same today, even the worst league manager would have spotted that, so it must be the players not doing what they are asked to do, bring in some young eager players who want it.

At this point, you need to simplify things and the manager by now should be providing a system and platform that has the squad performing both individually and as a team. That hasn't happened and will not happen as we have a manager and support staff clearly out of their depth as we have all observed. If it was any of us making executive staff decisions, I bet none of us would have made the informed and inspired decision of putting an unknown Division 3 manager in charge of a Division 2 club who had just been relegated from Division 1 and were looking to be immediately re-promoted. That decision I will never understand and while VT is here, I don't think we'll ever get a decent manager.

I always stick up for my club and have been trying to give slade ago but today was a turning point for me that's why I made this thread I think slade and the players are just not performing just hope we get some fresh new blood in the transfer Window ,pacey players with fight are a must

I think we have all given Slade time to prove himself Wez and quite right too. I've seen enough of Slade as an effective manager would have transformed a group of talented individuals into a performing unit with a tactical system to match. I don't even think that we need new additions to the team, a good manager would whip this lot into shape in terms of fitness, desire and work rate. At this point, I also think that he & his staff don't have the dressing room as players are probably not convinced of his system, much as what happened towards the end of OGS tenure. It's a mess and I honestly don't see things getting better whilst Slade is the manager and ultimately with VT as owner. It also annoys me that the board doesn't make any effort to build bridges with its loyal fans. In Slade's defense, he's come into a club without having his own staff and knowing no-one which is tough but he knew that coming in. My main concern is how the club is run from the top and that's where the problem lies and the shame is that it just doesn't have to be this way.

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

1st half u could see centre midfield was clearly struggling yet nothing changed macheda could of gone for kenwyn and bring ademyi on for le fondre and gone 4 5 1 with noone and Harris of KJ

Slade and the coaching staff ar the problem imo.
Too many players being ignored and not used. Very poor tactics and team selection. Using substitutes too late on into the game when things are obviously going wrong and not making the full use of substitutes (only two used today).
The jury was out on Slade. The jury is now in. Verdict: not good enough!!!!

Slade is deluded if he thinks that the problems are what he inherited, he has turned this team into a worse one that he took over due to his (and Scott Young's) poor management style when they both are totally incapable of putting out a team that can compete in this division. We have been outplayed in nearly every game under Slade and Young and the game stats re-affirm this as our possession and shots since he took over are as low of not lower than when we were in the premiership.

The pair of clowns has to go now before we are dragged into a relegation fight, but maybe that's what the club wants for us!!!

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

The point was inexperience at champ level not their personal attributes.
And by same token why wasn't they given chance at higher level? Another Slade basher I see!

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

The point was inexperience at champ level not their personal attributes.
And by same token why wasn't they given chance at higher level? Another Slade basher I see!

It's Warburtons first managerial job, he's only been managing 2 years and Howe has been hugely successful in his short time as a manage, they will both go far

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

The point was inexperience at champ level not their personal attributes.
And by same token why wasn't they given chance at higher level? Another Slade basher I see!

It's Warburtons first managerial job, he's only been managing 2 years and Howe has been hugely successful in his short time as a manage, they will both go far

Yes probably will! maybe we should have got one of them?

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

The point was inexperience at champ level not their personal attributes.
And by same token why wasn't they given chance at higher level? Another Slade basher I see!

It's Warburtons first managerial job, he's only been managing 2 years and Howe has been hugely successful in his short time as a manage, they will both go far

Yes probably will! maybe we should have got one of them?

There was no need to look further than the man who was most qualified and actually wanted the job-Tony Pulis

Slade without a doubt, every team just drops an extra player into midfield and we can't cope and won't change.

Huge red flags were being waved even when we were winning.

You get what you pay for, and we have someone way out of his depth.

Good point about the wins not feeling comfortable. Papering over some wide cracks maybe?

Tony P now please. ASAP. Yesterday!

Having gone today it was obvious that midfield is the problem area! Brentford kept 3 up at our corners as no resistance in midfield to stop them if got ball, result 1st goal, as for the forwards mmmm 3 simple chances 1st half not taken and one in second half! This thing about Slade inexperienced at champ level is nonsense as neither bmouth or Brentford's managers have any experience! But They have very settled sides something we didn't have until Slade came in, also The common denominator is both have players use to type of league the champ is, and that's our biggest problem a side with players not suitable to champ way of play, maybe the transfer window Slade will address this problem.

What you can't seem to grasp is that both Wharburton and Howe are young, hungry, raw managers who have already achieved more than Slade has, in all the years he has been managing. Slade is patently not good enough, otherwise he would have achieved much more than he has, he's not just unlucky to have not been given opportunities Only a crackpot chairman who has no clue about football would have given him thus opportunity

The point was inexperience at champ level not their personal attributes.
And by same token why wasn't they given chance at higher level? Another Slade basher I see!

It's Warburtons first managerial job, he's only been managing 2 years and Howe has been hugely successful in his short time as a manage, they will both go far

Yes probably will! maybe we should have got one of them?

There was no need to look further than the man who was most qualified and actually wanted the job-Tony Pulis

Personally I didn't want Him but thats me in minority.

3 defenders on the bench today & Adeyemi didn't get on the pitch despite Gunner & Whittingham having the piss taken out of them AGAIN by 3 relatively unknowns.
I'll leave you decide who I think!