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' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:59 pm

Monday 1st December 2014

' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims after former Cardiff employee Alisher Apsalyamov submits complaint to FA over alleged 'Chemical Ali' nickname

Alisher Apsalyamov worked briefly as Cardiff's head of recruitment

He claims Malky Macky and Iain Moody referred to him as 'Chemical Ali'

The same nickname was given to Saddam Hussein's cousin

Apsalyamov left his role at the Welsh club because of visa issues

Macky and Moody are still under investigation by the FA for sending racist, sexist and homophobic messages.

The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.

Mackay, now in charge of Wigan Athletic after his controversial appointment last month, and former Cardiff head of recruitment Moody are still awaiting the outcome of the FA inquiry into an exchange of racist, homophobic and sexist messages.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:06 pm

Tan's sons friend launching complaint to support Tan shocker. I thought Ali replaced Moody as head of recruitment anyway so how can Ali accuse Moody of calling him that name while at our club?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:12 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Tan's sons friend launching complaint to support Tan shocker. I thought Ali replaced Moody as head of recruitment anyway so how can Ali accuse Moody of calling him that name while at our club?


He was a painter at the club or some random job (or something on work experience?) wasn't he before getting that promotion

Seems odd, you'd figure, as a friend of Tan, it'd all be in the initial report.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:12 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Tan's sons friend launching complaint to support Tan shocker. I thought Ali replaced Moody as head of recruitment anyway so how can Ali accuse Moody of calling him that name while at our club?


They worked together, 1 man as manager, 1 man as head of recruitment, 1 man/boy as work experience painter and decorator. I'm sure they spent plenty of time working together :lol:

Why is it when things are starting to look up, we get shit like this coming out?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:17 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... yamov.html

Telegraph (categorising this as Swansea City news lol) has him starting at the club in February giving him a max of about 9 months at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24454963

Bbc have him down as painting walks over the summer. Very odd.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:31 pm

RFMH wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Tan's sons friend launching complaint to support Tan shocker. I thought Ali replaced Moody as head of recruitment anyway so how can Ali accuse Moody of calling him that name while at our club?


He was a painter at the club or some random job (or something on work experience?) wasn't he before getting that promotion

Seems odd, you'd figure, as a friend of Tan, it'd all be in the initial report.


I totally agree with this. You're right he was a painter on work experience initially though.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:39 pm

when this all going to end if their is ever a case.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:20 am

Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:Monday 1st December 2014

' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims after former Cardiff employee Alisher Apsalyamov submits complaint to FA over alleged 'Chemical Ali' nickname

Alisher Apsalyamov worked briefly as Cardiff's head of recruitment

He claims Malky Macky and Iain Moody referred to him as 'Chemical Ali'

The same nickname was given to Saddam Hussein's cousin

Apsalyamov left his role at the Welsh club because of visa issues

Macky and Moody are still under investigation by the FA for sending racist, sexist and homophobic messages.

The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.

Mackay, now in charge of Wigan Athletic after his controversial appointment last month, and former Cardiff head of recruitment Moody are still awaiting the outcome of the FA inquiry into an exchange of racist, homophobic and sexist messages.


By Matt Lawton for the Daily Mail

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

He was a painter, paint consist of chemicals , his name Ali hence Chemical Ali dont see a problem there .....

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:49 am

Tan and the press will never let it go.........they will keep digging.......

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:58 am

:lol: :lol:
Chemical Ali! Brilliant!

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:19 am

by all accounts on here, the game against Watford was the most passionate the fans have been in ages, please don't come out with this bollux Tan just when the fans are looking forward to the busy Christmas period and getting behind the players :thumbright:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:20 am

Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:Monday 1st December 2014

' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims after former Cardiff employee Alisher Apsalyamov submits complaint to FA over alleged 'Chemical Ali' nickname

Alisher Apsalyamov worked briefly as Cardiff's head of recruitment

He claims Malky Macky and Iain Moody referred to him as 'Chemical Ali'

The same nickname was given to Saddam Hussein's cousin

Apsalyamov left his role at the Welsh club because of visa issues

Macky and Moody are still under investigation by the FA for sending racist, sexist and homophobic messages.

The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.

Mackay, now in charge of Wigan Athletic after his controversial appointment last month, and former Cardiff head of recruitment Moody are still awaiting the outcome of the FA inquiry into an exchange of racist, homophobic and sexist messages.



My fence needs doing if that jobs worth wants to make 50 quid . Although I would like to see a work permit first . More shit from Tan . Chemical Ali , for fucks sake .

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:24 am

ThomasC wrote:by all accounts on here, the game against Watford was the most passionate the fans have been in ages, please don't come out with this bollux Tan just when the fans are looking forward to the busy Christmas period and getting behind the players :thumbright:


And one or two on here say all Tan has done is the rebrand. ;)

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:26 am

I read before that this kid was following moody on deals all over the place, I think he was brought in to do more than painting.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:29 am

Misled Mike wrote:He was a painter, paint consist of chemicals , his name Ali hence Chemical Ali dont see a problem there .....


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Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:56 am

It's all tans fault ,bla bla

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:05 am

wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.


I don't know the source of this news, but if true it would indeed put the club under another black cloud

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:07 am

~This is ALL tans fault lol :sleepy2:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:10 am

ThomasC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.


I don't know the source of this news, but if true it would indeed put the club under another black cloud



can you explain why it puts the club under a black cloud?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:13 am

lewispenarth wrote:~This is ALL tans fault lol :sleepy2:


do you think club officials having been withholding information on the findings of the multi-million pound investigation into Malky & Moody? Or perhaps Ali wasn't bothered enough to make a complaint in the first place? What changed his mind??

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:23 am

paulh_85 wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.


I don't know the source of this news, but if true it would indeed put the club under another black cloud



can you explain why it puts the club under a black cloud?


wrong headlines, this is old news....any documentation of the multi-million pound investigation should of been handed in to the authorities along time ago. Cardiff are on a good run - this is a distraction from the team and the progress made by Slade.

The club officials preoccupied by former employees and not submitting everything they had on them, creating a black cloud

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:24 am

ThomasC wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.


I don't know the source of this news, but if true it would indeed put the club under another black cloud



can you explain why it puts the club under a black cloud?


wrong headlines, this is old news....any documentation of the multi-million pound investigation should of been handed in to the authorities along time ago. Cardiff are on a good run - this is a distraction from the team and the progress made by Slade.

The club officials preoccupied by former employees and not submitting everything they had on them, creating a black cloud



how are you so knowledgeable on what was submitted when?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:25 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote::lol: :lol:
Chemical Ali! Brilliant!


Comical Ali more like. The way the club is being run.
Although the connection between dictators Saddam Hussein and Tan is probably relevant here.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:28 am

If I went to the courts for everyone that has insulted me, they would be tied up until 2020.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:31 am

paulh_85 wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


The FA's racism investigation into Malky Mackay and Iain Moody has escalated after it emerged a former Cardiff City official submitted a written complaint to the governing body claiming he was a victim of discrimination.
Alisher Apsalyamov is from Kazakhstan and was horrified to discover he allegedly became known to Mackay and Moody as 'Chemical Ali' during his time at the club.


I don't know the source of this news, but if true it would indeed put the club under another black cloud



can you explain why it puts the club under a black cloud?


wrong headlines, this is old news....any documentation of the multi-million pound investigation should of been handed in to the authorities along time ago. Cardiff are on a good run - this is a distraction from the team and the progress made by Slade.

The club officials preoccupied by former employees and not submitting everything they had on them, creating a black cloud



how are you so knowledgeable on what was submitted when?


The investigation has not been completed by the FA, so you make a really good point Paul :thumbup: I was assuming we knew the charge sheet, the report above I interpreted as a new claim of what could be considered discriminatory behaviour

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:40 am

Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:43 am

abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:49 am

paulh_85 wrote:
abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?


can you expand on this nepotism Paul ? :happy1:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:59 am

ThomasC wrote:by all accounts on here, the game against Watford was the most passionate the fans have been in ages, please don't come out with this bollux Tan just when the fans are looking forward to the busy Christmas period and getting behind the players :thumbright:


Sorry wasn't aware tan said anything! Thought ir was papers & a former employee? :thumbup:
But you are right things to looking up for club & fans. :bluescarf: