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' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:16 pm

A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:25 pm

Spot on mate, good post :bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:51 pm

This time last season we were in the premier a few places above the relegation spots and above the Jacks.

Look where we are today. Infact don't look unless you want to understand why people are pissed off.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:01 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!


Slade did inherit Ole's squad but that was supposed to be 'the best ever Championship Squad'. Slade was supposed to come in and make it work, not clear everyone out and start again. It's crap to suggest that he can have free licence until he can get his own players in.

I thought we'd changed our manager early doors to get someone who could get the best out of this group of players.

It certainly isn't OK for the team to pick up one point from 12 against the worst 4 sides in the division and not to score any goals against them.

I'm not anto Slade but i bet I've shelled out well over £500 to watch those 4 matches. I'd like to have been entertained just a bit and to at least seen my team having a go and my manager picking a bench that might be able to change a game. If we'd have gone a goal down yesterday we'd have been sunk and no amount of positive spin could have made that look good.

I'm not being negative, just telling it as it is.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:09 pm

You make some good points Tonteg.....for me if your gonna pump the Ball up field all game then you need to win at least half of the knock downs I didn't see that happen yesterday and we made it easy for Brum.

I agree RS needs a transfer Window I just hope he brings some Zip and Pace into the team cause we haven't replaced the pace of Bellamy Zaha and Campbell.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:12 pm

I am not anti slade either and definitely don't want to talk about sacking. But what I and I believe others are saying is that his bench has no options especially creative options. Yesterday kim or maynard imo would not be game changers or big threats if we had gone 1 down

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:33 pm

Don't like him, I think he will be gone by Jan.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:42 pm

Skewett wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!


Slade did inherit Ole's squad but that was supposed to be 'the best ever Championship Squad'. Slade was supposed to come in and make it work, not clear everyone out and start again. It's crap to suggest that he can have free licence until he can get his own players in.

I thought we'd changed our manager early doors to get someone who could get the best out of this group of players.

It certainly isn't OK for the team to pick up one point from 12 against the worst 4 sides in the division and not to score any goals against them.

I'm not anto Slade but i bet I've shelled out well over £500 to watch those 4 matches. I'd like to have been entertained just a bit and to at least seen my team having a go and my manager picking a bench that might be able to change a game. If we'd have gone a goal down yesterday we'd have been sunk and no amount of positive spin could have made that look good.

I'm not being negative, just telling it as it is.

spot on!

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:53 pm

It wasn't the score.

The last 15 mins were dire. We lost a centre half and we brought on Gabbs..... even though we had 2 full backs and 2 centre halfs on and we were playing against 10.... We launched aimless bombs

Maynard was the first time I have seen a player with after burners....

Away, are we planning to play 2 strikers even though one is constantly hiding with Noone and Pilkington ? If so Gunner and Whitts better eat their shredded Wheat because we can't expect them to own the middle of the park like they did yesterday every other week

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:01 pm

Good post . Really would like to continue the positive vibe, even though we've just watched Swansea win yet again when most of us thought they would have a tough year how come they do so well and well , we don't? Where did it all go wrong? When Russell Slade came on board , I wrote that we were only 9 points from being top of the league, a sobering thought now we are 10 points away! Hey Ho keep the faith the home games have been much better but we have to get going on the road. In the longer term we have to give the current manager a good run at least until the end of the season as realistically we are not in danger of going down, so let's re assess at that point, who knows the division is so tight we just need a run of form

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:02 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:I am not anti slade either and definitely don't want to talk about sacking. But what I and I believe others are saying is that his bench has no options especially creative options. Yesterday kim or maynard imo would not be game changers or big threats if we had gone 1 down


Absolutely. In my opinion, RS is either being badly advised, or still getting to grips with the players strengths & weaknesses.

Having said that, we still have a couple of players out at the moment. Kenwyn Jones would surely have made the bench, & I'd rather see Mason back instead of Maynard too. Has the inclusion of Kimbo & Gabbidon got anything to do with VT???

I wonder?

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:08 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!


Loving the positivity :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:14 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!


Far too positive for the miserable doom and gloom merchants on here! I agree with your sentiments entirely. :ayatollah:

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:21 pm

Lower league management style it's all physicality rather passing and pace. lump it to the big man don't get pushed of the ball. Those days a gone no way you can get promoted or stay in the premiership with those tactics. That's why he is a poor choice

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:37 pm

I thought we played ok yesterday tbh - enjoyed the spells we put together.

We lack quality - simple as. For me the biggest omission (I know he is away but not preferred anyway) is Kewwyn. The guy is a lump but scares defences. Was first name on my team sheet til Slade took over. Id have him and Guerra upfront anyday. Cant understand why no Ravel yesterday, and did feel it may have been a game for Kim to show his worth.

Gotto remember thats our first clean sheet away in 21 games - Stoke away a fkin year ago so at least we have done slightly better

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:50 pm

RYANBLUE wrote:I thought we played ok yesterday tbh - enjoyed the spells we put together.

We lack quality - simple as. For me the biggest omission (I know he is away but not preferred anyway) is Kewwyn. The guy is a lump but scares defences. Was first name on my team sheet til Slade took over. Id have him and Guerra upfront anyday. Cant understand why no Ravel yesterday, and did feel it may have been a game for Kim to show his worth.

Gotto remember thats our first clean sheet away in 21 games - Stoke away a fkin year ago so at least we have done slightly better


Sorry to be pedantic but Southampton didn't score against us at St Mary's earlier this year.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:58 pm

I agree to some extent but what concerns me is the fact that he has a large squad to choose from but is limiting himself to only picking from 20 or so players.

The OP rightly says that Slade has only had an international break to train with the players and that he hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players.

Yet he has already seen enough in training apparently to decide that certain players have no future at the club and need to be moved on. Have those players been given a proper chance under the new manager?

As he hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players, how can he make a judgement so quickly on almost a third of his squad, without having even seen them play in a competetive match?

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:18 pm

3 away games against Millwall, Bolton & Brum with only one point and no goals scored is simply not good enough.
He deserves credit for our Home results, no doubt, but hardly any teams play the same sort of formation home & away. We are much too predictable.
My main concern though is how he has made it obvious certain players have no future at the club and sticks to his "20" squad, whether or not that gives us any potential game changers on the bench.
We can't make changes to the squad until January and November & December are notorious months to pick up injuries and possibly suspensions. Some of Russell's 'unwanted' list might be required, they are hardly going to be too motivated knowing they are on their way?

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:19 pm

Noone and Pilkington are supposed to be our skill players,both underperformed,not all down to Slade that.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:12 pm

davids wrote:I agree to some extent but what concerns me is the fact that he has a large squad to choose from but is limiting himself to only picking from 20 or so players.

The OP rightly says that Slade has only had an international break to train with the players and that he hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players.

Yet he has already seen enough in training apparently to decide that certain players have no future at the club and need to be moved on. Have those players been given a proper chance under the new manager?

As he hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players, how can he make a judgement so quickly on almost a third of his squad, without having even seen them play in a competetive match?


You make an excellent point. Initially, Slade said he selected a nucleus of 20 players which would be his squad for the next 3 games. This squad of 20 has shown no signs of changing. I guess it is up to those outside this squad of 20 to do more in training and in the development games to force their way in? Slade made an initial judgement and learnt a lot after the Bolton defeat. Slade responded by making changes to the starting 11 at Birmingham but will he make changes regarding the nucleus of players he wishes to include in his squad? Time will tell.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:28 pm

We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:33 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:A lot of doom and gloom merchants on this forum following our performance yesterday, which I can't understand to be honest.
Gary Rowett has taken over Birmingham, got them organised and their form has picked up. They beat Watford last Tuesday, yet people are still not satisfied we only drew 0-0 with them. Personally, I thought we could have perhaps nicked the win yesterday, but a point and clean sheet after our 3-0 Bolton defeat shows Slade was right to make changes and the changes worked. I don't care how boring an away game is, people are moaning why Slade didn't use more creative players, but we went down that road with Ole and look where it got us! Fans were moaning about Malky's negative tactics after we ONLY drew away to Stoke 0-0 and wanted him sacked. Look where that has got us!

Every away game in the Championship requires the team to stand up, battle and be counted. We didn't do this at Millwall and Slade identified a "soft under belly" at Bolton. So Slade made changes yesterday, brought in some players with character like Turner and Connolly and we kept a clean sheet. People can talk about Birmingham being the lowest scorers this season all they like, Gary Rowett has made a difference there already and they're a different proposition now, as Watford found out. Overall, a point and clean sheet at an improving Birmingham team lifted by Gary Rowett and brimming with confidence after beating Watford who were top last Tuesday is a decent enough result. If we can keep winning at home and keep more clean sheets away, we will be definite promotion contenders.

I think Slade is getting a lot of unnecessary criticism already. He's inherited Ole's squad and has a lot of dead wood to clear so he can bring his own players in, and he says he's already started that process. Slade hasn't had a pre season, he's only had an international break to really get to know the players, and that's only the players who weren't on international duty. Slade has a 100% winning record at home and although we've only taken one point away so far, Slade hasn't had the opportunity to REALLY get to know the players. He's starting too though following the Bolton defeat, you can't really get to know your players until you go to places like Bolton. That's when you really see if certain players are up for the fight. Slade made changes following Bolton and the response from Gary Rowett after yesterdays game was "Out of my 3 games, Cardiff were the most physical team we've come up against". I LOVE this comment, as this is how we need to be away from home. We must put it about, we must be more streetwise, we must stop the home team playing. Then when we win the battle, we can play our game.

I'm not saying Slade is the perfect manager, I would have selected different line ups to him, I wouldn't have put 3 centre backs on the bench at Bolton, I wouldn't keep selecting the lazy Macheda who I feel contributes very little to our team, particularly away from home when you need a willing runner up front to take the pressure off. But what I am saying is thus far, Slade hasn't done too badly at all. He must be doing a lot of things right, as 10 points out of 18 is a more than good enough start considering the mess he's inherited. We are climbing the table and if we can improve our away form with more boring, clean sheet performances, the future will look promising under Slade. We have to stick with him and give him a few transfer windows to bring in his own players before we can fairly judge him. Let's see what Slade can do in the January transfer window. He can take Leyton Orient to a League 1 playoff final with 30 free transfers, so he may well be able to use the January transfer window to take us from mid table to the play offs, or even the automatic positions!




Great post, well put across! Unbelievable how critical some people on here can be

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:41 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.


We haven't really slid any further away either, which shows Slade has stopped the rot Ole caused.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:48 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.


We haven't really slid any further away either, which shows Slade has stopped the rot Ole caused.


But can we push on? I've not seen anything the suggests we will.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:51 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.


We haven't really slid any further away either, which shows Slade has stopped the rot Ole caused.


But can we push on? I've not seen anything the suggests we will.


Like I said, a clean sheet away from home will hopefully give us the platform to improved away performances. If we can put that together with our home form, I believe we will start pushing on, especially if Slade does well in the January transfer window.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:55 pm

Slade will recruit from division one,he will have a small squad because he doesn't have experience of managing a big squad, :) e will play the style he knows which will take us to division one ,a Scott young will take over and we will be in div2 faster than port Talbot town, just saying it as I see it based on the useless kickboxing goofing I have witnessed down city and away, lee p smiling a n d 'm maybe Kenny Lawrence will come back. Tan out now the clown. :sad7:

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:13 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.


We haven't really slid any further away either, which shows Slade has stopped the rot Ole caused.


But can we push on? I've not seen anything the suggests we will.


Like I said, a clean sheet away from home will hopefully give us the platform to improved away performances. If we can put that together with our home form, I believe we will start pushing on, especially if Slade does well in the January transfer window.


Sorry but I can't see how a clean sheet against Birmingham will be the catalyst to anything. We failed to score against them, millwall and Bolton. What little creativity in the squad doesn't seem to be favoured by slade. I'd have more faith if there were signs of a style of play being created that will bear fruit in the future. I don't think slade and his coaching staff have the ability to produce a team capable of competing for promotion.

Furthermore I dread the next transfer window where I fear we will lose a lot more than we gain.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:16 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:We are no closer to automatic promotion or the playoffs now than we were when slade took over.


We haven't really slid any further away either, which shows Slade has stopped the rot Ole caused.


Typical example here -

Carpe - glass half empty
Tonteg - glass half full

Well done Tonteg, Slade has been here hardly anytime at all & in general is a huge improvement on our last manager.
Let's give the guy some time.

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:51 am

At least slade is trying to fix solskjaers mess.Having Jones back will perhaps allow us to play a 4-5-1 away from home with daehli or ravel coming in

Re: ' Russell Slade deserves credit '

Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:01 pm

I was at Birmingham and apart from a clean sheet, there were no real positives at all imo. I'll back Slade, but the way he's disregarded players like John, Guerra, Daehli and even someone like Burgstaller, who was highly rated in Austria mystifies me. I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see Slade doing anything here. To take only a point against an abysmal Birmingham team was criminal imo.