How can we lose Daehli?

Surely he will be gone come January.
The most talented, young prospect we've had & Slade can't even find a place on the bench for him?
We should be building the team around him. I find it quite incredible he's being ignored - what a waste.

Slade obviously has no intention of playing him.

Both him and Ravel will be gone in January, no doubt replaced by a couple of hard working players of limited ability from League One.

Ravel and daehli.. Two of the more talented players in the championship let alone the cardiff team. I can't understand it

Surely he will be gone come January.
The most talented, young prospect we've had & Slade can't even find a place on the bench for him?
We should be building the team around him. I find it quite incredible he's being ignored - what a waste.

The fact that Turner was on the bench ahead of Daehli when we already had 2 CB's must surely mean the end for Daehli.
I just don't get it?
Slade has referred to a group of 20, it appears the likes of Daehli, Guerra, Eikrem, Harris etc are surplus to requirements. We're we hoping to sneak a goal ahead and then plant 5 centre backs across our box?
I'm livid, we have our biggest ever squad and two months until the transfer window, yet refuse to consider certain players!

The thing that surprises me is that these players have not even been given a chance to show the new manager what they can do.

When a new manager comes into a club he usually makes noises about giving everyone a chance, wiping the slate clean etc and there are many examples of players who never got a look in under a previous manager being given an opportunity by the new manager and taking it with both hands.

It seems to me as if Slade has decided upon his core squad without giving the fringe players an opportunity and that is poor management.

WOL thinks he is going:
"No Mats Daehli again. I can’t see the Norwegian teenager staying through January - a lot of clubs have been tracking him and I know one enquiry was made by a German club earlier in the year. That was turned down flat, but Cardiff may well listen now.


There are a couple of tweets out there about Mats Daehli and whether he will stay at Cardiff in January. He’s a teenager who wants to play football and isn’t being able to do that at the moment. There are clubs who want him and it’s difficult to see where he would fit into Russell Slade’s system unless that is just behind the main striker where Le Fondre is playing really well"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ok-8042660

WOL thinks he is going:
"No Mats Daehli again. I can’t see the Norwegian teenager staying through January - a lot of clubs have been tracking him and I know one enquiry was made by a German club earlier in the year. That was turned down flat, but Cardiff may well listen now.


There are a couple of tweets out there about Mats Daehli and whether he will stay at Cardiff in January. He’s a teenager who wants to play football and isn’t being able to do that at the moment. There are clubs who want him and it’s difficult to see where he would fit into Russell Slade’s system unless that is just behind the main striker where Le Fondre is playing really well"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ok-8042660

I must have missed those games where Le Fondre is playing really well.

WOL thinks he is going:
"No Mats Daehli again. I can’t see the Norwegian teenager staying through January - a lot of clubs have been tracking him and I know one enquiry was made by a German club earlier in the year. That was turned down flat, but Cardiff may well listen now.


There are a couple of tweets out there about Mats Daehli and whether he will stay at Cardiff in January. He’s a teenager who wants to play football and isn’t being able to do that at the moment. There are clubs who want him and it’s difficult to see where he would fit into Russell Slade’s system unless that is just behind the main striker where Le Fondre is playing really well"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ok-8042660

I must have missed those games where Le Fondre is playing really well.

Yeah i was wondering about that as well….

Believable until the last sentence about le fondre playing well.

WOL thinks he is going:
"No Mats Daehli again. I can’t see the Norwegian teenager staying through January - a lot of clubs have been tracking him and I know one enquiry was made by a German club earlier in the year. That was turned down flat, but Cardiff may well listen now.


There are a couple of tweets out there about Mats Daehli and whether he will stay at Cardiff in January. He’s a teenager who wants to play football and isn’t being able to do that at the moment. There are clubs who want him and it’s difficult to see where he would fit into Russell Slade’s system unless that is just behind the main striker where Le Fondre is playing really well"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ok-8042660

Le Fondre offers excellent movement with a good work rate, as a result he's been getting good scoring opportunities. His success rate is pants and his confidence low, if Guerra was on board he'd be a shoe in.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Maynard start on Saturday?

We were only a stepping stone for him... If he was successful he would have been gone, if he failed he would have gone.

We were only a stepping stone for him... If he was successful he would have been gone, if he failed he would have gone.

He is no different from anyone else he obviously wants to play football pretty sure all of them have higher aspirations than the championship.

He could have left in the summer when there was a lot of interest after good performances in the PL, if he was a glory hunter he would have, he chose to go down with us so he deserves some credit.

When slade puts 3 centre backs on the bench including one that is in his mid 30s what does that tell young attacking players? Slade values age and experience over youth and defensive reliability over attacking flair and that we are not a club that can nurture a talent like Daehli. Hence why we have a situation where Joe Ralls is continuously picked over Ravel.

Didn't I read he was injured/ill last home game and that's why he didn't make the bench? Isn't it possible the same thing happened in this game hence why we ended up with 3 centre backs?

Didn't I read he was injured/ill last home game and that's why he didn't make the bench? Isn't it possible the same thing happened in this game hence why we ended up with 3 centre backs?

That's not true... The norwegian national coach said he was fit in a press conference this morning.

The direct quote was "I have a very close dialog with Daehli. He is training well both with the team and on his spear time. He is in good shape and i cant wait to hook up this monday"

Norwegian media: Dæhlie will leave Cardiff in january. Seems that he has been told that theres no future for him in Cardiff under this manager. And he needs to play to keep his place in the national squad..

Surely he will be gone come January.
The most talented, young prospect we've had & Slade can't even find a place on the bench for him?
We should be building the team around him. I find it quite incredible he's being ignored - what a waste.

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Agreed yet we can find a place the bench for the biggest useless donkey god ever put breath in to in Ben Turner!!! That's what we get for having a league 2 manager & not Pulis or Lennon

Norwegian media: Dæhlie will leave Cardiff in january. Seems that he has been told that theres no future for him in Cardiff under this manager. And he needs to play to keep his place in the national squad..

Who do the Norwegian media think they are telling Daehli there's no future for him at our club under our manager? You Norwegian's have been throwing tantrums since none of your players appear good enough to get in our team at the moment. Perhaps the Norwegian media should appreciate it's a huge step up in standard for Daehli jumping from Molde in the Norwegian league to ourselves in the Championship and be thankful we are helping Daehli develop parts of his game he was previously lacking.

Perhaps the Norwegian media should appreciate it's a huge step up in standard for Daehli jumping from Molde in the Norwegian league to ourselves in the Championship and be thankful we are helping Daehli develop parts of his game he was previously lacking.

Well, the problem is that Daehli was CFC's probably best player last year in the Premier League. Consistently playing really, really well. He is Premier League standard, not Championship. He consistently plays well for the national team against much, much harder opponents than the Championship.

For Daehli's sake I hope he leaves in January. He will if he won't get gametime asap.

Norwegian media: Dæhlie will leave Cardiff in january. Seems that he has been told that theres no future for him in Cardiff under this manager. And he needs to play to keep his place in the national squad..

Who do the Norwegian media think they are telling Daehli there's no future for him at our club under our manager? You Norwegian's have been throwing tantrums since none of your players appear good enough to get in our team at the moment. Perhaps the Norwegian media should appreciate it's a huge step up in standard for Daehli jumping from Molde in the Norwegian league to ourselves in the Championship and be thankful we are helping Daehli develop parts of his game he was previously lacking.

What are you on about? First all he made the step up to the PL just fine, its the step down to the championship that seems to be the problem. A more physical league and a team that isn't really playing the kind of football that suits him.
Secondly he didn't even play in norway for very long ( 6 months was it?). He was at Man U since he was 14 or whatever, he's basically a homegrown player.
Pretty sure DVP/bench wasn't what he had in mind when opted for us over Man U, if thats what he wanted that he would have just stayed in Manchester or gone to PL club.
Like wol says there are other clubs that want him, Dalman said he could have gone back to the PL last summer, so it was obvious that he wasn't gonna stay if Slade won't play him. He is far to good to spend the rest of the season playing DVP games.
Id be pissed off if they sell him, give him a loan move instead. Its stupid and shortsighted to sell him.

Didn't I read he was injured/ill last home game and that's why he didn't make the bench? Isn't it possible the same thing happened in this game hence why we ended up with 3 centre backs?

That's not true... The norwegian national coach said he was fit in a press conference this morning.

The direct quote was "I have a very close dialog with Daehli. He is training well both with the team and on his spear time. He is in good shape and i cant wait to hook up this monday"

He is injured carrying a slight knock

Norwegian media: Dæhlie will leave Cardiff in january. Seems that he has been told that theres no future for him in Cardiff under this manager. And he needs to play to keep his place in the national squad..

Who do the Norwegian media think they are telling Daehli there's no future for him at our club under our manager? You Norwegian's have been throwing tantrums since none of your players appear good enough to get in our team at the moment. Perhaps the Norwegian media should appreciate it's a huge step up in standard for Daehli jumping from Molde in the Norwegian league to ourselves in the Championship and be thankful we are helping Daehli develop parts of his game he was previously lacking.

Ross, that's far too positive thinking for some on here! LOL

I think the lad will come good, but he needs to 'adapt' to a tough league

Norwegian media: Dæhlie will leave Cardiff in january. Seems that he has been told that theres no future for him in Cardiff under this manager. And he needs to play to keep his place in the national squad..

Who do the Norwegian media think they are telling Daehli there's no future for him at our club under our manager? You Norwegian's have been throwing tantrums since none of your players appear good enough to get in our team at the moment. Perhaps the Norwegian media should appreciate it's a huge step up in standard for Daehli jumping from Molde in the Norwegian league to ourselves in the Championship and be thankful we are helping Daehli develop parts of his game he was previously lacking.

Ross, that's far too positive thinking for some on here! LOL

I think the lad will come good, but he needs to 'adapt' to a tough league

But he needs to be a big part of things now not in the future or it will be too late.
I'm not suggesting he has an automatic place in the team but the longer he's not involved (and not even on the bench) the harder it will be.
We should be starting to build this team around him. He's an unbelievable talent & we're lucky to have him - but maybe not for long it seems unless Slade opens his eyes.

Why build a team around a player that won't be here next year ?

He is still a baby in football terms. 6 months in the Norwegian league and a few start in the premier league for a struggling team. He has only just come out of youth football !!!!

Will he train on ? He is talented, but physically he is at a disadvantage in pro football.

I think he should move to a more technical, less physical league like the french or Dutch.

We have had the advantage of seeing a top class kid at the same age in Ramsey, he changed games, sadly Matts looks great in the highlight package but only for the stuff that doesn't lead to goals.

IMO he looks lost, as if he is struggling with the jump from youth, to outclassing semi pro's in Norway to full time pro football.

He will be a great player and needs to develop but I am not sure the championship is the place o do it. Players who are of his stature in the premier league are the finished article, not learning his trade.

Surely he must be injured or slade is taking the piss.

Why build a team around a player that won't be here next year ?

He is still a baby in football terms. 6 months in the Norwegian league and a few start in the premier league for a struggling team. He has only just come out of youth football !!!!

Will he train on ? He is talented, but physically he is at a disadvantage in pro football.

I think he should move to a more technical, less physical league like the french or Dutch.

We have had the advantage of seeing a top class kid at the same age in Ramsey, he changed games, sadly Matts looks great in the highlight package but only for the stuff that doesn't lead to goals.

IMO he looks lost, as if he is struggling with the jump from youth, to outclassing semi pro's in Norway to full time pro football.

He will be a great player and needs to develop but I am not sure the championship is the place o do it. Players who are of his stature in the premier league are the finished article, not learning his trade.

Sorry mate none of that makes sense given that Slade plays Joe Ralls a young player that was in a team that got relegated to League 1 last year and is not considered a big talent like Daehli. And given that Slade won't start Ravel or even have Guerra in the squad. Both have experience and are much better footballers than most of the players Slade favours.
Imagine being Ravel and seeing someone as average as Ralls getting picked while you are on the bench. Say what you want but its pretty obvious to me by now that Slade doesnt know what to do with flair players.
He is going the direct route and he is choosing players he knows how to use, players like the ones he had at Orient. Its not a reflection on the players as much as its a reflection on how he sees the game. A manager with a different approach would love nurturing a talent like Daehli. The fact that he is not even used as an impact sub says it all really.
Rumor is that there has been a few offers for Daehli already, it looking more and more like he will go in jan. Along with Ravel who surely won't want to sit on the bench for us and Guerra. I think Slade will put together a team of workhorses, thats his thing.

The fuzz is about that he is totally out of the squad. And Russel have not given him a real opportunity, just a couple of minutes as a sub. This sends a very clear signal, it is important to him to get some playing time, and not on the DVP team.

Nobody expects that he dont have to fight for the place like everybody else, but when we see who Slade had on the bench yesterday then we know that Mats isn't Slades kind of player. And Mats understands this as well. Afraid he will dissepear in January.

Tonteg: could not care less about Eikrem or Berget. But many norwegians really like Mats, maybe because he is not a typical norwegian player.

The fuzz is about that he is totally out of the squad. And Russel have not given him a real opportunity, just a couple of minutes as a sub. This sends a very clear signal, it is important to him to get some playing time, and not on the DVP team.

Nobody expects that he dont have to fight for the place like everybody else, but when we see who Slade had on the bench yesterday then we know that Mats isn't Slades kind of player. And Mats understands this as well. Afraid he will dissepear in January.

Tonteg: could not care less about Eikrem or Berget. But many norwegians really like Mats, maybe because he is not a typical norwegian player.

You could be right but this must call into question Slade's ability and judgement if he is unable to make use of a talent like Daehli or Ravel but would rather pick a player such as Ralls.

Forget the next big thing - I was surprised when Henry Lansbury lined up for forest...He was being touted as a future star...

Joe ralls is 2 two older and has played about 5 times the amount of first team football than Matts.

As for going to a big team. I read that chelsea have 42 players out on loan, I am sure Matts doesn't fancy being one of those.

I am not sure if his parents are over with him, but its a big ask for a 19 year old to be in a foreign country on his own. Perhaps he is just immature (not a criticism) and not ready for this at this stage in his career. All the skill in the world, if your head and heart is not in it, you may as well go back to norway and enjoy life

Forget the next big thing - I was surprised when Henry Lansbury lined up for forest...He was being touted as a future star...

Joe ralls is 2 two older and has played about 5 times the amount of first team football than Matts.

As for going to a big team. I read that chelsea have 42 players out on loan, I am sure Matts doesn't fancy being one of those.

I am not sure if his parents are over with him, but its a big ask for a 19 year old to be in a foreign country on his own. Perhaps he is just immature (not a criticism) and not ready for this at this stage in his career. All the skill in the world, if your head and heart is not in it, you may as well go back to norway and enjoy life

How ignorant can you be? Daehli have lived in England since he was 15, and 6 months in Norway. His mother have been by his side all those years and still is. Currently home is in Cardiff..

Forget the next big thing - I was surprised when Henry Lansbury lined up for forest...He was being touted as a future star...

Joe ralls is 2 two older and has played about 5 times the amount of first team football than Matts.

As for going to a big team. I read that chelsea have 42 players out on loan, I am sure Matts doesn't fancy being one of those.

I am not sure if his parents are over with him, but its a big ask for a 19 year old to be in a foreign country on his own. Perhaps he is just immature (not a criticism) and not ready for this at this stage in his career. All the skill in the world, if your head and heart is not in it, you may as well go back to norway and enjoy life

How ignorant can you be? Daehli have lived in England since he was 15, and 6 months in Norway. His mother have been by his side all those years and still is. Currently home is in Cardiff..

A bit rude to call somebody 'ignorant'. There are rumours going around that Daehli is homesick.