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win because of colemans tactics or because of bales determination to drive us forward and the effect he as on other players??

win because of colemans tactics or because of bales determination to drive us forward and the effect he as on other players??

Bales determination to drive us forward and the effect he as on other players

Both I think

I don't like Coleman but like I said the other day players are giving everything for him and the country

Think he got the line up spot on today as well in fairness and had we not gone down to 10 and had an early sub I feel we'd have scored a few more

Both I think

I don't like Coleman but like I said the other day players are giving everything for him and the country

Think he got the line up spot on today as well in fairness and had we not gone down to 10 and had an early sub I feel we'd have scored a few more

line up spot on? dont think had a choice thats why i ask the question bale seems to inspire the other players particiculaly the younger ones to great hights of determination that personally i dont think coleman can do!

Both for me. Not easy losing your only striker after 30 seconds, or going down to 10 men with 45 minutes to go. A manager earns their money at moments like that, knowing who to put on and where to put them, and how to shift the formation. He did well in that respect tonight with the players he had at his disposal.

For me Bale didn't really do a lot tonight, especially up until 80 minutes

Both I think

I don't like Coleman but like I said the other day players are giving everything for him and the country

Think he got the line up spot on today as well in fairness and had we not gone down to 10 and had an early sub I feel we'd have scored a few more

line up spot on? dont think had a choice thats why i ask the question bale seems to inspire the other players particiculaly the younger ones to great hights of determination that personally i dont think coleman can do!

I see your point but he still has to set the formation etc and it's totally different to Bosnia so the man is clearly thinking thins through but I won't argue that bale adds another dimension to the squad in terms of pride and passion and it clearly rubs off

Both for me. Not easy losing your only striker after 30 seconds, or going down to 10 men with 45 minutes to go. A manager earns their money at moments like that, knowing who to put on and where to put them, and how to shift the formation. He did well in that respect tonight with the players he had at his disposal.

For me Bale didn't really do a lot tonight, especially up until 80 minutes

up to point you may be right but these things were forced on him not out of choice! and thats again why i asked question in years gone by we would have been camped on our own goal line at end, but bale kept us up at their end for last 15 mins thru shear determination after the treatment he was recieving he could easily have faded out game but it seemed to inspire greater effort from him!

I think the all round work rate and passion from all the players got us through the last 15 mins. At the end of the game you could see what it meant to everyone, players and fans. We've done exactly what was needed in the two games with very limited options, all the players involved deserve a lot of credit and have put their hands up for selection for future games. F*cking love the buzz right now bring on Belgium !!

Sent the boys out second half and we got a red card within the first 2 minutes of it, what the heck did he say I would love to know.

Sent the boys out second half and we got a red card within the first 2 minutes of it, what the heck did he say I would love to know.

come on lads its to easy lets give them a helping hand! so kingy get yourself sent off asap!

Sent the boys out second half and we got a red card within the first 2 minutes of it, what the heck did he say I would love to know.

Two threads you've put this on!! Seriously of course the wales manager sent his players out to almost break some ankles and possibly lose the game

Get a f*cking grip

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Sent the boys out second half and we got a red card within the first 2 minutes of it, what the heck did he say I would love to know.

Two threads you've put this on!! Seriously of course the wales manager sent his players out to almost break some ankles and possibly lose the game

Get a f*cking grip

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was thinking same

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Bale
Without him we won't qualify

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

I was at the game tonight and Bale did not the run the show as people like to make out every time Wales play. Bale played brilliantly but so did every single one of our players. We played as a team.

Well done to Coleman, he's finally getting it right and deserves a lot of credit.

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

probably would have yes! twaddle just not convinced of colemans tactics but like you say 7 out 9 is great

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

probably would have yes! twaddle just not convinced of colemans tactics but like you say 7 out 9 is great

Not colemans biggest fan but if we'd lost tonight you wouldn't be asking was it Coleman's fault or bales for not inspiring his teammates so you have to give him some recognition when we pull off a backs against the wall victory like tonight , I found it very encouraging tonight that we didn't rely on bale for once

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

probably would have yes! twaddle just not convinced of colemans tactics but like you say 7 out 9 is great

Not colemans biggest fan but if we'd lost tonight you wouldn't be asking was it Coleman's fault or bales for not inspiring his teammates so you have to give him some recognition when we pull off a backs against the wall victory like tonight , I found it very encouraging tonight that we didn't rely on bale for once

didnt rely on his goals which is good did set up kanu which tbh no other player on pitch would have done! if lost all colemans fault whilst yes you are right give him credit as he is manager, but i still think its bale that is giving us this confidence not coleman, just my view.

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

probably would have yes! twaddle just not convinced of colemans tactics but like you say 7 out 9 is great

Not colemans biggest fan but if we'd lost tonight you wouldn't be asking was it Coleman's fault or bales for not inspiring his teammates so you have to give him some recognition when we pull off a backs against the wall victory like tonight , I found it very encouraging tonight that we didn't rely on bale for once

didnt rely on his goals which is good did set up kanu which tbh no other player on pitch would have done! if lost all colemans fault whilst yes you are right give him credit as he is manager, but i still think its bale that is giving us this confidence not coleman, just my view.

Bales a world class player so he will bring players on but tonight was a real team effort imo

win because of colemans tactics or because of bales determination to drive us forward and the effect he as on other players??

Both and colemans ability to get the players up for it

Oh ffs get off the blokes back I'm not a fan but we've got 7pts from 3 games , if we had f**k all you'd be calling for his head so by the same token you've got to give him some recognition when it's working , that team tonight was decimated by injuries and down to 10 men , he made the right decisions tonight every time it was needed

mmm ok twaddle me old mucker! but what decisions did he make other than the ones forced upon him? my thread is asking did we win because of colemans tactics or bales drive inspiring other lesser players?

Well let's take it further then al would we have won by more if bale hadn't tried to take on every player in front of him instead of looking to pass

Guys I don't often agree with waddle but I thought bale wasn't at his best tonight, we all know what he can do but feel sometimes he tries to much, however he did work hard and tries to inspire the others but at the moment I don't think it's just him, I think every player have their all!!

Chester was immense again Gunter was defo MOTM for me Ledley was superb in a role he's not great at Williams and Taylor were solid and kanu and cotterill were also superb kanu have everything as well

Coleman was on the touch line the entire game bellowing instructions and made some good decisions
We must forget the Swansea allegiances and rememebr that we are in it together

probably would have yes! twaddle just not convinced of colemans tactics but like you say 7 out 9 is great

Not colemans biggest fan but if we'd lost tonight you wouldn't be asking was it Coleman's fault or bales for not inspiring his teammates so you have to give him some recognition when we pull off a backs against the wall victory like tonight , I found it very encouraging tonight that we didn't rely on bale for once

didnt rely on his goals which is good did set up kanu which tbh no other player on pitch would have done! if lost all colemans fault whilst yes you are right give him credit as he is manager, but i still think its bale that is giving us this confidence not coleman, just my view.

Bales a world class player so he will bring players on but tonight was a real team effort imo

that i wont argue with also was 1st time in ages that we didnt look like losing in last ten mins or so, ok only cyprus but def improvement.

I think we did it and that's the main thing!

Coleman is marmite, I know that and sometimes I lose the will to live with team selections, but he did get it right tonight. Ok, limited anyway, but that is more power to his elbow imo.

Robson-K was brilliant, so was Cotterill. The back 4 functioned well despite changes. Ledley was a great troublemaker for the opposition. Hennessy made one error (arguably) but was otherwise solid. Gunter had a very steady match and worked hard. And yes, Bale was putting himself about and his flick on for the goal was sublime.

Not much to complain about there then! Well done Coleman and every player for 100%.

So when we win its down to the players and when we lose its down to the manager? if we are to criticise Coleman when we lose we have to, by the same token, praise him when we win. Its amazing that so many can only praise the manager through gritted teeth and look for other reasons why we won. Best start to a campaign for 12 years, so cant fault him. BBC tonight are going with....

"A tactically disciplined display was enough, however, for a precious three points which gives Wales their best start to a qualifying campaign since 2002."

Coleman has done well this week.

That's a fact.

Sent the boys out second half and we got a red card within the first 2 minutes of it, what the heck did he say I would love to know.

How the f**k can he be held responsible for such actions? He didn't tell King to go out and get himself sent off within two minutes!

win because of colemans tactics or because of bales determination to drive us forward and the effect he as on other players??

You've asked this question twice now. Bale is world-class so he'll obviously drive us forward, not only because of his stature but because of the type of player he is. And Coleman made the right decisions, most notably when he replaced G. Williams with Edwards and pushed Bale up front, where he was more effective than G. Williams.

Got to give Coleman credit players gave 100% everybody needs to get behind him like was shown by the crowd tonight and we can qualify at the end of the day we are top of the group as it stands