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How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:00 pm

Thoughts?.

Reading this forum the past few months, you would think Israel are worse, so I thought I make this thread. I suppose when Muslims are killed, it easier for the media to create the image of the poor, depraved people being suppressed by the hegemonic Jews. It is a shame so many people fall for it.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:05 pm

By the west doing what they've always done , arm , train and assist their rivals to overthrow them , then when they take control and start committing atrocities fund whoever stands up to them. So on and so forth

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:08 pm

waddle wrote:By the west doing what they've always done , arm , train and assist their rivals to overthrow them , then when they take control and start committing atrocities fund whoever stands up to them. So on and so forth

We should sort our own country out before we try and intefere elsewhere. Hate the way we follow the usa into these places. Had we concentrated on our own countries atrocities like 9/11 and 7/7 probably would not have happened.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:15 pm

Bomb more schools and hospitals then get really offended when they react in any capacity.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:17 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Thoughts?.

Reading this forum the past few months, you would think Israel are worse, so I thought I make this thread. I suppose when Muslims are killed, it easier for the media to create the image of the poor, depraved people being suppressed by the hegemonic Jews. It is a shame so many people fall for it.


We cant, as countries like the USA and Britain bring terrorists to our own Country, by continually interfering in theirs and we should stay out of other Countries and let them run theirs how they want to. Some will say we should stop what they are doing,but then why do we only get involved if the Country has Oil/Gas etc ?

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:18 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
waddle wrote:By the west doing what they've always done , arm , train and assist their rivals to overthrow them , then when they take control and start committing atrocities fund whoever stands up to them. So on and so forth

We should sort our own country out before we try and intefere elsewhere. Hate the way we follow the usa into these places. Had we concentrated on our own countries atrocities like 9/11 and 7/7 probably would not have happened.

We've opened up Pandora's box without a doubt

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:20 pm

Let the middle east sort it out for a change. They always rely on the west to go in and sort the mess out now it's time for the likes of Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey to sort it out, not us.

The middle east are terrified of ISIS and so they should be because if nothing is done about ISIS and they take control of Iraq and Syria and allow to control the two countrys then they'll build up such a force that eventually they'll invade Jordan, Kuwait and then move on. Maybe then the likes of Iran and the Saudi will take action or send Tony Blair in because after all he is the middle east peace envoy :lol:

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:Thoughts?.

Reading this forum the past few months, you would think Israel are worse, so I thought I make this thread. I suppose when Muslims are killed, it easier for the media to create the image of the poor, depraved people being suppressed by the hegemonic Jews. It is a shame so many people fall for it.


We cant, as countries like the USA and Britain bring terrorists to our own Country, by continually interfering in theirs and we should stay out of other Countries and let them run theirs how they want to. Some will say we should stop what they are doing,but then why do we only get involved if the Country has Oil/Gas etc ?


Nail on head, The middle east has loads of Oil, loads. The middle east don't like the way we live and we don't like how they live but we try and impose our western ways on them and they don't like it but would we like the middle east imposing their ideology on us and telling us we have to live their way, of course we wouldn't and we would fight tooth and nail to defend our way of life just like they are doing.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:29 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:Thoughts?.

Reading this forum the past few months, you would think Israel are worse, so I thought I make this thread. I suppose when Muslims are killed, it easier for the media to create the image of the poor, depraved people being suppressed by the hegemonic Jews. It is a shame so many people fall for it.


We cant, as countries like the USA and Britain bring terrorists to our own Country, by continually interfering in theirs and we should stay out of other Countries and let them run theirs how they want to. Some will say we should stop what they are doing,but then why do we only get involved if the Country has Oil/Gas etc ?


Nail on head, The middle east has loads of Oil, loads. The middle east don't like the way we live and we don't like how they live but we try and impose our western ways on them and they don't like it but would we like the middle east imposing their ideology on us and telling us we have to live their way, of course we wouldn't and we would fight tooth and nail to defend our way of life just like they are doing.



Spot on, We would not like them telling us how to run our Country.
We would fight back as well.
Britain needs to leave the Middle East alone, it will never be at peace and we bring trouble to our own shores.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:57 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:Thoughts?.

Reading this forum the past few months, you would think Israel are worse, so I thought I make this thread. I suppose when Muslims are killed, it easier for the media to create the image of the poor, depraved people being suppressed by the hegemonic Jews. It is a shame so many people fall for it.


We cant, as countries like the USA and Britain bring terrorists to our own Country, by continually interfering in theirs and we should stay out of other Countries and let them run theirs how they want to. Some will say we should stop what they are doing,but then why do we only get involved if the Country has Oil/Gas etc ?


Nail on head, The middle east has loads of Oil, loads. The middle east don't like the way we live and we don't like how they live but we try and impose our western ways on them and they don't like it but would we like the middle east imposing their ideology on us and telling us we have to live their way, of course we wouldn't and we would fight tooth and nail to defend our way of life just like they are doing.



Spot on, We would not like them telling us how to run our Country.
We would fight back as well.
Britain needs to leave the Middle East alone, it will never be at peace and we bring trouble to our own shores.


I know people will argue with you saying we started it, yes we did, but we'll do even more damage than good if we put boots on the ground. Like you say, we should stay well away and the the middle east region sort it out.

Look at Turkey will their tanks just sat there on the boarder and doing nothing. They won't intervene to help fellow Muslims out and stop the advance of ISIS? Is it because neighboring Muslim countrys refuse to fight other Muslims, well, they're going to have too sooner or later because ISIS don't care about anyone or anything, they have one objective and they'll stop at nothing in achieving it.

Turkish tanks just sunning themselves :(

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Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:02 pm

Only way to stop them will be to kill every last one of them, feet on the ground. It's not what everyone wants but it's the only way to stop them.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:06 pm

TEAM AMERICA !!!! f**k YEAH!!!!

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:09 pm

Mardon89 wrote:Only way to stop them will be to kill every last one of them, feet on the ground. It's not what everyone wants but it's the only way to stop them.


Easier said than done. If we put soldiers in then ISIS will just melt back into the general population and we wouldn't recognize who is ISIS or not and we'd be picked of at will.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:16 pm

Creeping Sharia

http://youtu.be/Ib9rofXQl6w

Good video about Islam and the Qur'an, take time to watch

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:18 pm

I'd start with all the radical pricks in Britain , jail them kill them whatever. Just time to get tough on all these Tossers , Don't like our way of life then f**k off out. Simple :thumbup:

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:44 pm

Nuke them! :laughing6: :thumbup:

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:38 pm

Anyone see the Kurds protesting on the Severn bridge earlier?

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:48 pm

Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:00 pm

The best way i think is to actually stop giving them airspace on social media, newspaper reports, tv etc.

The ISIS word is spread so much through social media, twitter is full of it. They use it as major propaganda.

Stop the propaganda, stop them spreading the word, limit there affect with the rest of the world, and attack them. They are able to show every victory to the world, it creates panic and lets them brainwash more people.

With regards to military, it needs to be tactical airstrikes, WW2 american tactics when you just flatten everything and anything with your ground troops. Its going to affect civilian population, but i would rather the world spends money regenerating the area after than spend money arming the local people, for it to come back when they use your arms against another country next time.

But the way it will be done will be NATO led air strikes for now. After a few more months we will see people on the ground. but Cameron wont allow it now (Even though its planned) as hes only just told the country hes bringing troops out of a war in Afghan, and cant afford to be seen to send them to another war that will take years to have any affect.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:02 pm

Military Junta wrote:Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved


:lol: Imagine being this ridiculous and having so little value in human life, you'd have made a swell Nazi.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:26 pm

Too many ignorant status' on here who are missing the point.

The leaders of ISIS and every muslim extremist group hate who we are, as a people and as a culture, they will not stop until they control the entire earth to abide by their beliefs, why do you think countries such as Russia get hit by terrorists even more than us when they aren't even part of the war?

every citizen or soldier the west or countries loyal to the west like Israel kill is fuel for their propaganda so that they can sway the sceptical and those who were bereaved to fight for them against the very idea of our way of life.

why do you think boko haram in Nigeria slaughter Muslim children in their own schools? it's because they believe that education is a western influence and that anybody, even their own people who are being educated are loyal to the west and so should die. Our history as an oppressing people doesn't help either, extremism is taking hold of more countries such as Pakistan, Thailand, Egypt.

The only strategies to stop them are these - irradicate them by having total control in the east and killing every element loyal to their idea in every country, impossible - Cut off support, groups like ISIS must have backing, from governments and other investors, have no doubt that there are people in Britain who earn their money here and use it to fund ISIS. Very difficult - Prove to them, their supporters, their opposition and the normal citizens who live in the places that they effect that they are wrong, this is the only real way, we need to be going down to a cultural and social level, we need people in the countries that they operate in showing average citizens that Islam is compatible with the ways of the west, that they should expect basic human rights, that there's something they can do about their situation, that it isn't good to be ignorant of what other people think and that this is why freedom of speech is vital, we need them to be aware of how the west is and the history of Europe, that oppression is just never a good thing. in short we need to counter the propaganda machine.

But make no mistake, they will keep coming, they will keep growing just as the Nazi's and Stalin did before them because they have an idea and that idea is appealing to their faith when they see what's 'wrong' with the west - prostitution, drugs, education and freedom for women etc. And they will slaughter those of every other faith, every other politics and every other idea, philosophy or creed until the world is as they see fit and even if they fail, someone will do the same in the name of something else. If there's anything we can't do, it's simply sit here and care about ourselves while they behead children who won't agree with them and because eventually, when they have enough power, it'll be our turn.

"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out"

Maritn Niemoller, if we don't fight for those who are being slaughtered now because they aren't british, will they ever listen or fight for us?

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:28 pm

Military Junta wrote:Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved


The Kurdish fighters should be told to retreat and leave Kobane and let like you say the place to be carpet bombed. Rebuild it later, won't cost much.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:12 pm

Just send in the troops and let them have target practise with them. They can only fight and murder civilians Women Children and people with there hands tied behind there backs. Cowards the lot of them.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:57 pm

Choke who is funding them... Supplies and cash has to be coming from somewhere... Find where the source is. Shut it down.. Cut their supplies and funding.. Who are their backers? Saudi, Yemen, Iran??

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:05 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved


The Kurdish fighters should be told to retreat and leave Kobane and let like you say the place to be carpet bombed. Rebuild it later, won't cost much.



Only and quickest way for it to be sorted

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:06 am

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:Let the middle east sort it out for a change. They always rely on the west to go in and sort the mess out now it's time for the likes of Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey to sort it out, not us.

The middle east are terrified of ISIS and so they should be because if nothing is done about ISIS and they take control of Iraq and Syria and allow to control the two countrys then they'll build up such a force that eventually they'll invade Jordan, Kuwait and then move on. Maybe then the likes of Iran and the Saudi will take action or send Tony Blair in because after all he is the middle east peace envoy :lol:


But it's not just a middle eastern problem is it?
This Isis shit affects the western world as well & will continue to do so & will grow & grow like a cancer if it's not dealt with at source. The whole world needs to get behind the coalition.
We can't just leave it to middle eastern countries. That would be madness.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:27 am

Military Junta wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved


The Kurdish fighters should be told to retreat and leave Kobane and let like you say the place to be carpet bombed. Rebuild it later, won't cost much.



Only and quickest way for it to be sorted


They are more than just a isolated group of mercenaries.

Bombing them will solve nothing, only giving them more followers.

'Sorted'. It will never be sorted.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:43 am

Depressed Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Carpet bomb and has the fuckers. May kill some innocents but problem solved


The Kurdish fighters should be told to retreat and leave Kobane and let like you say the place to be carpet bombed. Rebuild it later, won't cost much.



Only and quickest way for it to be sorted


They are more than just a isolated group of mercenaries.

Bombing them will solve nothing, only giving them more followers.

'Sorted'. It will never be sorted.


Stopped Japan in WW2 after Hiroshima and Nagaski didn't it..? Carpet bomb the whole area which they hold and that will put an end to it

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:44 am

If anyone knew, I'm sure it would be being done.

Warring in the Middle East is a long-term by product of the empire building, then their demolition to become the Ottomans, and then the demolition of the Ottoman empire. People of all kinds of religions, ethnicities and languages all thrown in together in a hot climate with lower economic output (in general, obviously there are exceptions).

Recipe for disaster really, and it's a very complex and horrible scenario that will take a long, long time to unravel and solve. I hope that one day it can, and by peaceful or diplomatic efforts, but until that time we can only hope.

Re: How do we stop ISIS?

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:57 am

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