Ched evans

Think the old bill will send him out on day release Monday so that heap of shit Simon church doesn't have to play on Monday?

On a serious note I can't wait for him to get back playing and 100% fit cause I think he do a job for Wales.

Sounds like Coleman's gonna be a prick about it. (They're going to speak to the FAW etc) saying it's an external matter, I don't see why it's a matter really, he's a professional footballer smh

Sounds like Coleman's gonna be a prick about it. (They're going to speak to the FAW etc) saying it's an external matter, I don't see why it's a matter really, he's a professional footballer smh

You can't have a go at Coleman surely. Yeah evans is a professional footballer but with a dodgy past. Any manager would be coy about is selection surely.

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

This. Plus people seem to think he will walk out of jail having not played football/trained properly for 3 years or whatever and still be able to do a job....

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

Totaly understand your point of view. But the whole case was questionable at best.

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

Totaly understand your point of view. But the whole case was questionable at best.

he was found guilty on more than one occasion. if he hasnt been able to get his conviction overturned then i think people need to trust the british justice system, and not some website put together by his sister and total mug of a girlfriend

So how moralistic does football get? What about convicted thieves?
And does that mean Evans can't work again in any profession?

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

Totaly understand your point of view. But the whole case was questionable at best.

he was found guilty on more than one occasion. if he hasnt been able to get his conviction overturned then i think people need to trust the british justice system, and not some website put together by his sister and total mug of a girlfriend

I would of thought Ken Barlow would be more understanding.
There is more to it than a website. I think i will stop now.

So how moralistic does football get? What about convicted thieves?
And does that mean Evans can't work again in any profession?

Any profession? I'm not sure he has qualifications, but he certainly couldn't be a doctor, nurse, teacher, policeman or lawyer. He is on The Sex Offenders' Register and while he is IMO he shouldn't be given media exposure as a football player and certainly not to wear the Welsh jersey. My opinion but shared by others I'm sure. Test it with a poll if you like but don't forget that the majority of posters are men.

He's a scumbag if he wants to play football fine I guess, at least he's paying tax but he should show some contrition for what he did it might help. But playing for your country is supposed to be a privilege.

So how moralistic does football get? What about convicted thieves?
And does that mean Evans can't work again in any profession?

Any profession? I'm not sure he has qualifications, but he certainly couldn't be a doctor, nurse, teacher, policeman or lawyer. He is on The Sex Offenders' Register and while he is IMO he shouldn't be given media exposure as a football player and certainly not to wear the Welsh jersey. My opinion but shared by others I'm sure. Test it with a poll if you like but don't forget that the majority of posters are men.

So would you ban footballers for any conviction? I take your point about the register and tend to agree in terms of representing your country'.

Where do we draw the line?
It seems all our fans (Including me) can accept Ravel Morrison's past, (witness intimidation, assault charges, homophobic threats on Twitter and common assault charges on his ex girlfriend). Whilst Evens, (along with a friend who was let off) slept with a girl apparently too drunk to consent and might have been spiked, Yet Ched wasn't their when she would have been spiked...
The fact he has spent years behind bars and wont be able to continue his normal life when he comes out and his mate McDonald was found not guilty and is aloud to carry on as normal playing football makes absolutely no sense to me...

I believe he is innocent.

Reality Check:

CONVICTED RAPIST

If that was your niece, would you be happy to see him on TV every week, earning money most of us can only dream of?

How many footballers are accused of rape! Justice system is f**k all to go by.

I can't see Evans having a successful comeback. He has been inside for 3 years so he will be possible a year away from getting anywhere near fit. Then I can only see a lower league team taking him on. Just can't see him playing at the high level again.

whoever said he is a professional footballer is wrong, hes an ex pro footballer, at this moment, he doesnt have a club.

Im all for him earning a living from football, but i dont want him representing his country.

Representing your country is the pinnacle, youre the ultimate role model to kids starting out. Mr Evans is a convicted rapist, he doesnt deserve the welsh dragon on his chest. By all means go and find a club and earn a living, every person has that right, but there are some offences that i think should be taking into consideration when you decide who represents our country, a wont say all criminals shouldnt represent wales, as a traffic offence or public order is alot different to rape, murder etc etc.

it would be good if coleman came out and showed his views instead of cowardly ducking the issue.

its likely he'll get to avoid the issue for the next year or two as evans will most likely have to start in league 1 or 2 coming back into the game.

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

Are you for real? Not a large % of people would have sex with a drunk person? I have by this measure been raped on 100s of occassions, i just hope i can get justice and get all these bitches banged up. I do really dispair with the presumption of guilt held by people like you. In the case notes and appeal notes there was no features which categorically differentiate the 2 in terms of one achieving poven consent and one not.

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

its neither here nor there to state he should play for club not country.

its either both, or neither. you could say that the fans of whichever club he ends up "do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans".

i suspect the international issue will just be dodged completely by coleman. probably for that old chestnut the "footballing reasons"

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

Are you for real? Not a large % of people would have sex with a drunk person? I have by this measure been raped on 100s of occassions, i just hope i can get justice and get all these bitches banged up. I do really dispair with the presumption of guilt held by people like you. In the case notes and appeal notes there was no features which categorically differentiate the 2 in terms of one achieving poven consent and one not.

She was past drunk.

As the judge states in his remarks, the CCTV show how drunk she was, clearly could not consent. a jury found him guilty, the judge agreed,

3 further judges dismissed the appeal. I agree that judges get things wrong, but i completely agree with all 4.

Also you can not be raped! you are male, it is impossible

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

its neither here nor there to state he should play for club not country.

its either both, or neither. you could say that the fans of whichever club he ends up "do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans".

i suspect the international issue will just be dodged completely by coleman. probably for that old chestnut the "footballing reasons"

I think he should be able to pick up a football wage if deemed good enough by a team. But internationals are different. You are representing your country, A club you are representing your boss. Club teams where as they do represent an area, they are one of many, Internationally you are (supposedly) above club level.

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

Are you for real? Not a large % of people would have sex with a drunk person? I have by this measure been raped on 100s of occassions, i just hope i can get justice and get all these bitches banged up. I do really dispair with the presumption of guilt held by people like you. In the case notes and appeal notes there was no features which categorically differentiate the 2 in terms of one achieving poven consent and one not.

She was past drunk.

As the judge states in his remarks, the CCTV show how drunk she was, clearly could not consent. a jury found him guilty, the judge agreed,

3 further judges dismissed the appeal. I agree that judges get things wrong, but i completely agree with all 4.

Also you can not be raped! you are male, it is impossible

CCTV footage shows her walking into the hotel, then going back outside to collect the pizza box she left on the floor as she got out of the cab. She appeared in far better shape than the average party goer on a weekend. In my view if you can do that you can also consent. NP20 i do believe you are phishing here, saying it is not possible to be raped if you are male, i dont want to be seen as facilitating would be female rapists but i think viagra a four poster bed and 4 lengths of rope should do the job

http://www.chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself

http://www.chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself

Clearly states it is out together by his friends and family. I prefer to go with a Independant jury

http://www.chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself

Clearly states it is out together by his friends and family. I prefer to go with a Independant jury

Agree adam, i only want to draw attention to the video which i think nobody believes is faked in any way. She seems sober enough to me?

I'd play him up front.

He made a mistake he's a footballer they shag who they want 98% of the time, how was he to know the one was gonna cry Rape or actually not want sex with him.


Joking,
But i'd still play him purely for footballing matters

I'm sure its not as bad as made out and she had some nice compo

1. Questionable conviction given his co-accused walks free with the only distinguishable difference being the bedside manor in sneaking out of the hotel via an emergency exit.

2. Once time served for any crime why can he not continue in his job?

3. How many of these "throw the book at him for life" crew have slept with a girl that has had a few too many? i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself). I have woken up on a few occasions thinking what the f@ck happened last night? This entire case sets a dangerously low bar

Just shows how far standards have dropped, when people try and use alcohol as an excuse. If you are big enough to drink you accept the consequences of not handling your drink. Everyones been drunk, everyones done silly things. a very large % wouldnt rape or sleep with a girl if she was that drunk. People should have standards.

Read the full transcript. the guy is an absolute tool. he was supposed to be a professional athlete at the time, people who really truely strive to reach the peak dont go acting like him and getting lashed, taken advantage of women, even if she had slept around with sports people. Have standards and aim high.

Read the full case R v Chedwyn Evans, ive read the initial and the appeal, the judge was spot on in what he dealt out.

Let Evans play professional football, but dont let him represent his country. Wales do not need young kids in the crowd chanting in adulation for Evans, they dont need to be supporting a vile man like that.

Are you for real? Not a large % of people would have sex with a drunk person? I have by this measure been raped on 100s of occassions, i just hope i can get justice and get all these bitches banged up. I do really dispair with the presumption of guilt held by people like you. In the case notes and appeal notes there was no features which categorically differentiate the 2 in terms of one achieving poven consent and one not.

She was past drunk.

As the judge states in his remarks, the CCTV show how drunk she was, clearly could not consent. a jury found him guilty, the judge agreed,

3 further judges dismissed the appeal. I agree that judges get things wrong, but i completely agree with all 4.

Also you can not be raped! you are male, it is impossible

CCTV footage shows her walking into the hotel, then going back outside to collect the pizza box she left on the floor as she got out of the cab. She appeared in far better shape than the average party goer on a weekend. In my view if you can do that you can also consent. NP20 i do believe you are phishing here, saying it is not possible to be raped if you are male, i dont want to be seen as facilitating would be female rapists but i think viagra a four poster bed and 4 lengths of rope should do the job

No its physically impossible for males to be raped, only females can be raped.