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SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:20 pm

SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Tuesday 23rd Sept 2014

Cardiff City FC Cardiff City caretaker boss Scott Young slams Javi Guerra and Kim Bo-Kyung after dreadful Bournemouth defeat


After hauling misfiring pair Javi Guerra and Kim Bo-Kyung off in the first half of the devastating League Cup defeat against Bournemouth, Bluebirds manager Scott Young said 'you can’t carry individuals.'


Cardiff City caretaker manager Scott Young hit out at players he said fell below the club's standards during the Capital One Cup defeat against Bournemouth, saying: “We can’t start any game with eight or nine players.”

Fans' favourite Young, affectionately known for his commitment to the club's cause as a player, pulled Kim Bo-Kyung and Javi Guerra off after 37 minutes with the team in disarray at 3-0 down and replaced them with Mats Daehli and Federico Macheda.

After the humiliating defeat, Young blasted: “I have been at this club for 20 years and we have always come through on core values. As long as I am in charge we will stick to those values.

“We can’t start any game with eight or nine players as we did against Bournemouth. That’s the reason we had to make changes and bring players off. We were 3-0 down and had to take brave decisions.

“We didn’t start well as a group, but you can’t carry individuals at any level of football. It wasn’t acceptable - you have to wear the Cardiff shirt with pride. Players must have the will to want to do it.

“That team was as well prepared as it has been for a long time. You can be organised, but if you don’t want to do it enough, you won’t do it.

“We made eight changes from the match at Derby and people were given an opportunity. We will go into Saturday’s fixture against Sheffield Wednesday and be more than a match for them."


With Russell Slade hotly tipped to take the Bluebirds hot-seat in the coming days, Young's stint as caretaker boss, alongside Danny Gabbidon, who played the entire match against Bournemouth, looks set to be a short one. But the man who played 275 times for his boyhood club, remains philosophical about his future in charge.

He said: “Will I be in charge? Who knows?

"I was asked to be in charge for the match at Derby and this game against Bournemouth.

“This result doesn’t affect my enthusiasm and taste for the job. It’s a challenge. When things don’t go well, coaches and managers work to rectify the situation.

“It’s easy to play football when you are doing well. The key is to show bottle when things don’t go well. Players must be brave and get on the ball. When you are low on confidence and not winning, you have to get through it.”

Young, who spoke freely with chairman Mehmet Dalman and chief executive Ken Choo before kick off, is expecting to have board level talks on Wednesday and said: “We will look at the match video first thing in the morning and go through it, deciding what we need to work on.

“We will be working flat out between now and Saturday’s match.”


Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe praised his team, saying: “That was a performance out of the top drawer.

“The quality of our football was great to watch and I was very pleased with my players.

“Everything we wanted to do we did. We were extremely good without the ball, made it difficult for Cardiff in midfield and restricted them to only a few chances.

“When we scored our first goal their heads dropped a little, but at no stage did we feel anything but full resect for Cardiff and the quality they have.”

Re: SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:27 pm

“We didn’t start well as a group, but you can’t carry individuals at any level of football. It wasn’t acceptable - you have to wear the Cardiff shirt with pride. Players must have the will to want to do it."

Play for the shirt? No one can even recognise the shirt! If the fans can't show any passion towards then the players have no chance!

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:41 pm

Perhaps just perhaps it might have helped if they picked players in their proper positions

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:44 pm

Lots of players will leave in January, Kim Bo and Guerra amongst them.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:46 pm

scott young should look closer to home!

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:25 am

Easy to pull them boys off and make scape goats off them but truth is he picked the team he played the players in the wrong positions and left our fullbacks exposed,go look in the mirror Scott you'll see who's to blame,yes the players aren't showing the fight needed but what do u expect when u throw a team together and the players aren't even in their right positions,tonight we should have played the same 11 as at derby and try and get momentum,and experienced manager would have known that

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:07 am

scott young should take a lot of the blame the way he set the team up was all wrong we were getting ripped to shreds in the middle dont blame individuals for your short comings.i know he as been associated with cardiff for 20 years but that dose not make him a good manager. his record AFC PORTH SACKED PORT TALBOT SACK. get a experence manager in quick :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:35 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:“We didn’t start well as a group, but you can’t carry individuals at any level of football. It wasn’t acceptable - you have to wear the Cardiff shirt with pride. Players must have the will to want to do it."

Play for the shirt? No one can even recognise the shirt! If the fans can't show any passion towards then the players have no chance!

Spot on

Re: SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:06 am

And that Scott is why you'll never be a decent manager.

Truth is the whole squad is unfit, under-performing and unprepared. Few players know if they are going to be picked or even in what position - so blaming two players who have been overlooked for most of the season to-date stinks of unprofessionalism - the cancer that, like the rebrand, has been eating away at our club for year.

Picking on individuals when the whole team, management and ethos of the club has been spiraling downwards is really unfair.

Re: SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:43 am

Even I'm forced to teply to this one.

Scot you're talking crap. Guerra at least seemed to be trying. Gabbidon nearly gave away 3 goals by being caught in possession. Cala (who I think is generally a decent player) gave almost every pass he made to the opposition or into touch. It's well wrong to single out Kim or Guerra as neither have been given even a sniff of getting themselves match fit this season.

Why play Gabbidon at all when Osilaja (spelling may be out there) played really well in the last round.

Our 'always be blue' temporary managers made the same mistake against Derby by playing Ralls at left back!

Though it might provoke some backlash comments from others on the forum i believe we shouldn't have been so hasty in calling for Ole's head. The ensuing turmoil and uncertainty will i feel cost us promotion in the long run.

Changing managers has more of a negative effect on players than us mere supporters could ever understand.

Re: SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:58 am

After the humiliating defeat, Young blasted: “I have been at this club for 20 years and we have always come through on core values. As long as I am in charge we will stick to those values.


well Scott, you really need to look at yourself after this crass comment on CORE VALUES as I have been there for more than your 20 years and cannot once remember any individuals being slagged off publicly by a manager of CCFC.

As for team selection!! Well did Gabbs say to you ' gis a game boss, its the only chance I'm going to get'?
Why were players out of position? Why not keep a side that ( in all honesty ) done well not to get slaughtered against Derby.
In the words of many on here over the last few months... YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR DEPTH.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:15 am

“That team was as well prepared as it has been for a long time."

Having a go at Ole, is he?

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:24 am

I can remember a certain Dave Jones slating a young Adam Matthews on the tv after losing to Ipswich I think. Now I didn't particularly like Alex Ferguson but he never criticised his players in public and young managers should learn from that. The fact that 2 players were taken off after only 37 minutes either means one of 2 things to me,they were injured or playing badly.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:30 am

Ah sorry forgot about Adam getting it in the neck. perhaps should have just said 'Scott, you are totally unprofessional'

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:33 am

I wish healey wasn't on loan!

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:39 am

Young has got it all wrong. What does he expect miracles? Guerra ( best striker at the club) or Kimbo have not had a look in this year. Both were isolated under Ole so how does he expect them to perform like superstars in 35 minutes of football when the rest of the team are also poor. Trying to make scapegoats!

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:58 am

Young needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. What must Guerra be thinking? He's clearly got a lot of talent but has hardly been given a sniff this season. He finally gets a start and then after 30 minutes he is taken off! That is completely disrespectful to a guy who was one of the top scorers in La Liga last year, especially when the likes of Le Fondre and Maynard continue to get chance after chance!

Also, why are our managers playing our strikers as wide midfielders? Not once have they looked comfortable playing like this and it's unfair on the likes of John who get no cover. We are desperate for width and pace so in cup games why not give Kadeem Harris a start? We've all seen him in DVP games, as well as the odd friendly, and he has looked very impressive. The kid deserves a chance!

The only good thing to come out of last night is the crazy calls to give Young the job will stop. I don't know how anyone can think he is suitable for the job, and the same goes for Slade. We cannot afford to take another massive gamble like Ole, we need proven experience at this level, someone who the players will respect, otherwise we are looking at a relegation battle.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:02 am

Jimbo27 wrote:Young needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. What must Guerra be thinking? He's clearly got a lot of talent but has hardly been given a sniff this season. He finally gets a start and then after 30 minutes he is taken off! That is completely disrespectful to a guy who was one of the top scorers in La Liga last year, especially when the likes of Le Fondre and Maynard continue to get chance after chance!

Also, why are our managers playing our strikers as wide midfielders? Not once have they looked comfortable playing like this and it's unfair on the likes of John who get no cover. We are desperate for width and pace so in cup games why not give Kadeem Harris a start? We've all seen him in DVP games, as well as the odd friendly, and he has looked very impressive. The kid deserves a chance!

The only good thing to come out of last night is the crazy calls to give Young the job will stop. I don't know how anyone can think he is suitable for the job, and the same goes for Slade. We cannot afford to take another massive gamble like Ole, we need proven experience at this level, someone who the players will respect, otherwise we are looking at a relegation battle.


Spot on: Guerra not given a chance although outstanding when he came on against Huddersfield.
Players being played out of position
Give Kadeem a run out of the bench-pace
Young/Slade are not the managerial solution
Do not take a gamble go for experience

Good post :thumbup:
Last edited by bridgendbluebird30 on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: SCOTT YOUNG 'YOU CAN'T CARRY INDIVIDUALS'

Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:02 am

Jimbo27 wrote:Young needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. What must Guerra be thinking? He's clearly got a lot of talent but has hardly been given a sniff this season. He finally gets a start and then after 30 minutes he is taken off! That is completely disrespectful to a guy who was one of the top scorers in La Liga last year, especially when the likes of Le Fondre and Maynard continue to get chance after chance!

Also, why are our managers playing our strikers as wide midfielders? Not once have they looked comfortable playing like this and it's unfair on the likes of John who get no cover. We are desperate for width and pace so in cup games why not give Kadeem Harris a start? We've all seen him in DVP games, as well as the odd friendly, and he has looked very impressive. The kid deserves a chance!

The only good thing to come out of last night is the crazy calls to give Young the job will stop. I don't know how anyone can think he is suitable for the job, and the same goes for Slade. We cannot afford to take another massive gamble like Ole, we need proven experience at this level, someone who the players will respect, otherwise we are looking at a relegation battle.


Spot on Jimbo :thumbright:

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:04 am

arri potta wrote:scott young should look closer to home!


Quite agree mate. he wasn't good enough for Port Talbot for goodness sake!!!
What was said in the dressing room is one thing but you simply don't tell the press this kind of thing. Terrible man-management.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:06 am

arri potta wrote:scott young should look closer to home!


Quite agree mate. he wasn't good enough for Port Talbot for goodness sake!!!
What was said in the dressing room is one thing but you simply don't tell the press this kind of thing. Terrible man-management.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:08 am

BlueGog wrote:
arri potta wrote:scott young should look closer to home!


Quite agree mate. he wasn't good enough for Port Talbot for goodness sake!!!
What was said in the dressing room is one thing but you simply don't tell the press this kind of thing. Terrible man-management.


He was booed by Port Talbot fans.
10 days ago, he was in charge of a development game for the under 12's.
What the hell is Tan playing at? ? ?
Its actually not his fault,its Tans fault for even considering him.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
arri potta wrote:scott young should look closer to home!


Quite agree mate. he wasn't good enough for Port Talbot for goodness sake!!!
What was said in the dressing room is one thing but you simply don't tell the press this kind of thing. Terrible man-management.


He was booed by Port Talbot fans.
10 days ago, he was in charge of a development game for the under 12's.
What the hell is Tan playing at? ? ?
Its actually not his fault,its Tans fault for even considering him.


sorry Annis but he made school boy error by publicly slating players, and one who we all think should be playing but has had a handful of minutes and played out of position.

To me we've now got an us and them split camp, not helped by Gabbidon thinking he can still cut the mustard, he can't - not at this level anymore, and certainly not whilst he is in charge.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:20 am

arri potta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
arri potta wrote:scott young should look closer to home!


Quite agree mate. he wasn't good enough for Port Talbot for goodness sake!!!
What was said in the dressing room is one thing but you simply don't tell the press this kind of thing. Terrible man-management.


He was booed by Port Talbot fans.
10 days ago, he was in charge of a development game for the under 12's.
What the hell is Tan playing at? ? ?
Its actually not his fault,its Tans fault for even considering him.


sorry Annis but he made school boy error by publicly slating players, and one who we all think should be playing but has had a handful of minutes and played out of position.

To me we've now got an us and them split camp, not helped by Gabbidon thinking he can still cut the mustard, he can't - not at this level anymore, and certainly not whilst he is in charge.


Because Scott Young is totally out of his depth, he should never have even been considered for the job, never mind given any authority.
Young is suited for the Kids teams, but because he worked with Tan in Malaysia with the kids, Tan put him in this position, in charge of Millions of £'s of players :shock: . Its a total shambles.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:26 am

I think if Scott wants to redeem himself and prove hes professional, he should start by withdrawing his comments on Guerra and Kim, and admit he was wrong to have issued them publically in the first place.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:34 am

Please Mr Tan don't let Scott Young anywhere near the stadium on Saturday
He doesn't have a clue how to manage and is the most disrespectful person I have ever seen calling himself
A representative of Cardiff City
To select such a mish mash of a team last night with so many players out of position and also selecting Gabbidon who went missing most of the match was disrespectful to the players who can play football
To then publicly blame 2 players for his own mistakes was disgusting
I fear that if he is in charge on Saturday we will have another defeat
The players don't want him there and if the supporters have any sense they should let Young know this if he's there on Saturday
Let 3 of the senior first players pick the team for Saturday and I'm sure we will see a much better performance without that disrespectful tw*t Young
Please resign Young for the good of Cardiff City

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:13 am

Scott young must take part of blame, set team out wrong, harsh to pick on Guerra, , cld of been Maynard or la fonder. Last night showed Scott is nowhere near ready for management.

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:34 pm

Scott Young didn't pick last nights side or formation
Danny Gabbidon didn't pick last nights side or formation

I'll give you three guesses who picked last nights side

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:09 pm

CityGent wrote:Scott Young didn't pick last nights side or formation
Danny Gabbidon didn't pick last nights side or formation

I'll give you three guesses who picked last nights side




Incredible.... Tony.....

The quicker this pillock leaves our club the better... Dragging us down further & further... He has no clue about football. He should just own the club and let others run it like many other clubs instead of meddling with team affairs..

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Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:13 pm

langley wrote:Scott young must take part of blame, set team out wrong, harsh to pick on Guerra, , cld of been Maynard or la fonder. Last night showed Scott is nowhere near ready for management.


I agree. The quote "“That team was as well prepared as it has been for a long time" implies he already think he´s doing a better job than the former manager. Blame fitness. Blame Kim and Guerra. If there was anything he should have learned from Ole, it would be not to blame anyone else than yourself.