All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.

Your a star you are,you help send him to the gallo's and now you want him forgiven
2 wrongs don't make a right you should know that.
It's no use bringing other crimes into this,he's done wrong and he'll pay the price.Probrably a one year ban for the racist stuff IF there's no more found but he'll Probrably never work in football again if there's any truth in scimming money from the transfer fund.

Degrees of wrong is still wrong.

There are also more people than not who have innocent phones.

Spot on.

Malky is only human and people do make mistakes. I imagine Malky will regret what hes done and can only wish he can turn back the clock and rectify the mistakes. Unfortunately he cant, and this will have a major impact on his future job prospects.

I can only thank Malky for what he has done for our club, regardless of what has come out in the press, this has just confirmed one thing, he's only human like the rest of us.

People should just move on from this as Malky is no longer at our club.

Your a star you are,you help send him to the gallo's and now you want him forgiven
2 wrongs don't make a right you should know that.
It's no use bringing other crimes into this,he's done wrong and he'll pay the price.Probrably a one year ban for the racist stuff IF there's no more found but he'll Probrably never work in football again if there's any truth in scimming money from the transfer fund.

I said what happened. Why he said sorry. In no way did I send him to the gallows.

No doubt if most of us on here were running a football club we would be scrutinised for some of our comments.
It's all politically correct Wankery

It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.

Maybe the reason nothing much has been said about ISIS or James Foley is because this is a football forum, and neither ISIS or Mr. Foley have had any links to Cardiff City. A handful of fans on a football forum giving personal opinions are hardly going to destroy anyone. Malky is unlikely to get a job with Cardiff again, but he will return to management with another club, and I doubt if any potential future employers are going to pay the slightest attention to those of us who post on this forum.

I couldnt give two hoots about malky nukes never rated his football at all he only got us up due to a fat wage bill and budget yet most managers would have got us up with both imo , on the other side your rite i find it mad how there making a massive deal when we have all sent and recieved joke text but hes in the limelight so pays the price rather than tan paying his price to get rid as thats all thats gone on

I couldnt give two hoots about malky nukes never rated his football at all he only got us up due to a fat wage bill and budget yet most managers would have got us up with both imo , on the other side your rite i find it mad how there making a massive deal when we have all sent and recieved joke text but hes in the limelight so pays the price rather than tan paying his price to get rid as thats all thats gone on

I wasn't Malky's biggest fan. His tactics was very boring but did he have the players to play any other way ?

I couldnt give two hoots about malky nukes never rated his football at all he only got us up due to a fat wage bill and budget yet most managers would have got us up with both imo , on the other side your rite i find it mad how there making a massive deal when we have all sent and recieved joke text but hes in the limelight so pays the price rather than tan paying his price to get rid as thats all thats gone on

I wasn't Malky's biggest fan. His tactics was very boring but did he have the players to play any other way ?

I dont think he knew any other way but score from a set piece and hoof it, worked in the championship with the players he got in but the prem diffrent ball game, i dont rate ole either i think hes out of his league tbh but lets hope im wrong

As a manager he is in charge of many people,cultures,ethnic backgrounds races and religions.

he did not act as he should given his responsibilties

shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.

we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)

but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.

but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person

I couldnt give two hoots about malky nukes never rated his football at all he only got us up due to a fat wage bill and budget yet most managers would have got us up with both imo , on the other side your rite i find it mad how there making a massive deal when we have all sent and recieved joke text but hes in the limelight so pays the price rather than tan paying his price to get rid as thats all thats gone on

I wasn't Malky's biggest fan. His tactics was very boring but did he have the players to play any other way ?

"Did he have the players to play any other way" well they were HIS players, and he blew £50 million in getting them.

It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.

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shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.

we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)

but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.

but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person

Fair play you are a tool

It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.

did malky kill someone? no, neither did nick griffin when he denied the holocaust. no-one was harmed by griffin saying that, it doesn't make it right though. i'm not comparing the two in terms of severity, just exposing your flawed logic.

the fact that there is mass murder going on on the other side of the world does not mean that someone who has committed a lesser crime can point to that and say that racist texts are perfectly ok.

yes malky was only caught because vincent tan tried to dig some dirt. the police are effectively 'digging for dirt' when they park there cars with their speed gun and catch out drivers who go over the limit. the solution to this is not to whine about being caught, its to not do the thing that is wrong in the first place.

malky made more than one mistake, he made many mistakes. in society, if you make a mistake, we don't say 'it was a mistake, look he's sorry, lets let him off'. instead we give proportionate punishments, in order to dissuade someone from engaging in that activity in the future.

malky himself has, in the past, called for 'zero tolerance' with regards to racism. where does that view of the offender himself fit in with your argument?

Yes Malky was so very wrong and he has shown himself to be a hypocrite alright. I just feel yes he should be punished. But should the man be destroyed ? Why should he be banned from ever finding a job within football ? It seems people are calling for harsher punishment here than say a rapist or a Peado. He said a few harsh things and he has lost out on I believe a few million in compo" and the embarrassment he has suffered, Isn't that punishment enough ? Or should he be fined even more money ? Now should he not only loose millions but not allowed to work as well ? So when is enough enough ? All this for a few texts that was only meant for the eyes of one other person. It was a private message so who had the right to go through his phone ?
I know in today's world nothing and I mean nothing is ever private and that is wrong. Anyone's views or so say sense of humour should not be questioned when it wasn't intended for public use.

Yes Malky was so very wrong and he has shown himself to be a hypocrite alright. I just feel yes he should be punished. But should the man be destroyed ? Why should he be banned from ever finding a job within football ? It seems people are calling for harsher punishment here than say a rapist or a Peado. He said a few harsh things and he has lost out on I believe a few million in compo" and the embarrassment he has suffered, Isn't that punishment enough ? Or should he be fined even more money ? Now should he not only loose millions but not allowed to work as well ? So when is enough enough ? All this for a few texts that was only meant for the eyes of one other person. It was a private message so who had the right to go through his phone ?
I know in today's world nothing and I mean nothing is ever private and that is wrong. Anyone's views or so say sense of humour should not be questioned when it wasn't intended for public use.

he will work again, don't worry about that.

he isn't a paedophile or a murderer, but as i said before, in society we punish mistakes. it isn't a black or white situation, there is a solution in between that will be arrived at. i suspect a fine and compulsory diversity training. not to mention the (arguably) irreparable damage to a once sterling reputation.

should he be fined money? yes, he should. as of yet he hasn't been fined any money, he hasn't had any punishment, big or small, for this. he lost his job but not because of these racist texts. that is entirely separate and you shouldn't conflate the two.

it was a private text, but he called for zero tolerance in an interview in the past. which one is it, malky?

Yes Malky was so very wrong and he has shown himself to be a hypocrite alright. I just feel yes he should be punished. But should the man be destroyed ? Why should he be banned from ever finding a job within football ? It seems people are calling for harsher punishment here than say a rapist or a Peado. He said a few harsh things and he has lost out on I believe a few million in compo" and the embarrassment he has suffered, Isn't that punishment enough ? Or should he be fined even more money ? Now should he not only loose millions but not allowed to work as well ? So when is enough enough ? All this for a few texts that was only meant for the eyes of one other person. It was a private message so who had the right to go through his phone ?
I know in today's world nothing and I mean nothing is ever private and that is wrong. Anyone's views or so say sense of humour should not be questioned when it wasn't intended for public use.

Malky has done wrong and no one can defend him. however look at that **** dyer at the jacks who stole from someone on minimum wage. Also Joey Barton who has comited numerous crimes. Look at David Pipe who glassed someone and that evil **** Lee Hughes who left someone dieing at roadside. These 4 have done crimes and been convicted along with numerous others yet they still have careers in the game. Malky needs to be banned from game for a period of time to show that football won't tolerate this behaviour. He also deserves a chance to be involved again.

As a manager he is in charge of many people,cultures,ethnic backgrounds races and religions.

he did not act as he should given his responsibilties

Amen

This is about a figure in the public eye making not just comments of poor taste but some despicable comments which he made on work mobile phones and other work electronic devices

If your going to do anything like that and be stupid enough to use your employers property then it's his own fault and secondly it's his fault anyways as some of the comments made are inexcusable

Trying to defend him is absolutely absurd

He made his bed and therefore should accept the punishment if and when it comes

shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.

we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)

but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.

but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person

Fair play you are a tool

if thats all you have to say about what i've said then it tells its own story mate. I'd never want a f*cking racist at my club, if you would then it says a lot about you

Yes Malky was so very wrong and he has shown himself to be a hypocrite alright. I just feel yes he should be punished. But should the man be destroyed ? Why should he be banned from ever finding a job within football ? It seems people are calling for harsher punishment here than say a rapist or a Peado. He said a few harsh things and he has lost out on I believe a few million in compo" and the embarrassment he has suffered, Isn't that punishment enough ? Or should he be fined even more money ? Now should he not only loose millions but not allowed to work as well ? So when is enough enough ? All this for a few texts that was only meant for the eyes of one other person. It was a private message so who had the right to go through his phone ? I know in today's world nothing and I mean nothing is ever private and that is wrong. Anyone's views or so say sense of humour should not be questioned when it wasn't intended for public use.

it was a COMPANY PHONE so his employer had every right...you apologist

Your a star you are,you help send him to the gallo's and now you want him forgiven
2 wrongs don't make a right you should know that.
It's no use bringing other crimes into this,he's done wrong and he'll pay the price.Probrably a one year ban for the racist stuff IF there's no more found but he'll Probrably never work in football again if there's any truth in scimming money from the transfer fund.

I said what happened. Why he said sorry. In no way did I send him to the gallows.

why did you feel the need to say what happened then if you were not drawing attention or not judging...?

He got us promoted..........he messed up.........he's gone.
End of sports.

I doubt Malky is a racist. Does he want the chink and the Jew to cease to exist no. Does he attend group meetings to entice racial hatred no. Is he a member of banned organisations that promote racial hatred and propaganda no. Total overreaction mainly because of the sensitive issue of racism in football and the industry's struggle to eradicate it from the sport. Is Malky guilty of choosing inappropriate words yes. It's no more than that.
If tan is on a racial crusade and was so horrified by these so called racial comments then he should have highlighted them at the time but instead chose to sit on the information and only releasing it to suit his own agenda when he could vindictively cause Malky the most damage.

I doubt Malky is a racist. Does he want the chink and the Jew to cease to exist no. Does he attend group meetings to entice racial hatred no. Is he a member of banned organisations that promote racial hatred and propaganda no. Total overreaction mainly because of the sensitive issue of racism in football and the industry's struggle to eradicate it from the sport. Is Malky guilty of choosing inappropriate words yes. It's no more than that.
If tan is on a racial crusade and was so horrified by these so called racial comments then he should have highlighted them at the time but instead chose to sit on the information and only releasing it to suit his own agenda when he could vindictively cause Malky the most damage.

well he did offer malky and moody the chance to sort it out with the FA before he was duty bound to by the FAs rules. not a fan of tan by any means but he gave them every oppertunity to sort this out in private before making it public.

and in regards to the first paragraph of your post; you dont need to do any of those things to be a racist

I doubt Malky is a racist. Does he want the chink and the Jew to cease to exist no. Does he attend group meetings to entice racial hatred no. Is he a member of banned organisations that promote racial hatred and propaganda no. Total overreaction mainly because of the sensitive issue of racism in football and the industry's struggle to eradicate it from the sport. Is Malky guilty of choosing inappropriate words yes. It's no more than that.
If tan is on a racial crusade and was so horrified by these so called racial comments then he should have highlighted them at the time but instead chose to sit on the information and only releasing it to suit his own agenda when he could vindictively cause Malky the most damage.

i think these texts show that at best malky is racially ignorant. at worst, as evidenced by moody's text that thank goodness that player doesn't know (you are a racist), given that he refused to sign for a racist manager, he is in fact a racist.

tan actually released the information many months ago. it was the LMA that refused to deal with the issue, and advised moody and malky not to comply with any investigation so that as little dirt would be rigged, for want of a better phrase.

you could call it an overreaction, but can you imagine the furore if tan was sending racist texts about management and players, and refused to consider managing a black manager because of his colour of skin? the backlash would be 10 times greater than what malky has experienced. the silence from other managers refusing to comment on the issue is deafening.

I doubt Malky is a racist. Does he want the chink and the Jew to cease to exist no. Does he attend group meetings to entice racial hatred no. Is he a member of banned organisations that promote racial hatred and propaganda no. Total overreaction mainly because of the sensitive issue of racism in football and the industry's struggle to eradicate it from the sport. Is Malky guilty of choosing inappropriate words yes. It's no more than that.
If tan is on a racial crusade and was so horrified by these so called racial comments then he should have highlighted them at the time but instead chose to sit on the information and only releasing it to suit his own agenda when he could vindictively cause Malky the most damage.

i think these texts show that at best malky is racially ignorant. at worst, as evidenced by moody's text that thank goodness that player doesn't know (you are a racist), given that he refused to sign for a racist manager, he is in fact a racist.

tan actually released the information many months ago. it was the LMA that refused to deal with the issue, and advised moody and malky not to comply with any investigation so that as little dirt would be rigged, for want of a better phrase.

you could call it an overreaction, but can you imagine the furore if tan was sending racist texts about management and players, and refused to consider managing a black manager because of his colour of skin? the backlash would be 10 times greater than what malky has experienced. the silence from other managers refusing to comment on the issue is deafening.

DrDre has just made a thread about this very thing, it would be chaos and not the "he without sin" attitude of many on here

Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.

Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.

if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.

whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.