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Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:30 am
My first column of the season, read it all from the link before responding please
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... up-7583512Many bookmakers have installed the Bluebirds as favourites for the title, I can understand why because of the depth of quality we have.
But the question is still there... do we have the right manager to succeed in this league?
City had no right to beat any team last season, we were the newcomers in town and we had to prove our wort, but in the fancied games we didn’t just fail ... we got it spectacularly wrong.
That is what is putting doubt in my mind.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... up-7583512
Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:34 am
Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:49 am
No, there's definitely no anti-Ole, pro-Malky agenda here
Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:50 am
And another article that really wants him to succeed as well.
I am not dismissing Ole's ability but to say there are no concerns would be a lie.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:51 am
DrDre wrote:No, there's definitely no anti-Ole, pro-Malky agenda here

Read the full article not just the headline.
And who mentioned Malky ?
Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:57 am
carlccfc wrote:DrDre wrote:No, there's definitely no anti-Ole, pro-Malky agenda here

Read the full article not just the headline.
And who mentioned Malky ?
I did and I still hold on to my view.
Btw, feel free to show me wrong, but I don't remember any such articles when Malky was hired!
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:00 am
Another question? Do we have the right supporters ? Can we be a united fan base or will be still some that choose to stir it up for their own agenda?
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:01 am
Your blind faith in Ole is admirable, if a little naive.
Even the most staunch OGS fan can admit that there are doubts about his performances so far.
I really like the guy. Friendly with fans, doesn't take any bull, says the right things, sounds committed, but after some of his teams abject displays last season, to say there are no doubts, is crazy.
He does, deserve our full support though & now that he has his own team & has had pre season to work the team into his style, we should see the best of him.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:03 am
The quote should be 'we've nearly got the players'!
We are so weak in defence it could bite us on the bum.
I've been banging this drum all summer, and I bet every manager in the Championship will make sure they take aim and fire!
Hudson and Connolly are too slow, neither is qonderful with the ball at their feet but we are in a desperate situation in our very first game.
Personally, I don't rate Fabio at all but given he's dropping down a division maybe this is his pitch and will come good.
3-1 to Blackburn I'm afraid!
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:04 am
Excellent article Carl.
Our squad in terms of goalkeeper, midfield and attack is best in league. Defence wise we our average. Brayford is top notch but I'm not convinced about fabio. Hudson is a battler but injury prone. Turner is a good defender but his distribution is poor. Cala is technically good but will he fancy a scrap at Rotherham on a cold Tuesday night.
Ole has had 8 months to sort defence out and in this area he is failing. It's all very well attacking and scoring 3 but if your defence is weak it will see us as the entertainers not the champions.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:10 am
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:10 am
langley wrote:Another question? Do we have the right supporters ? Can we be a united fan base or will be still some that choose to stir it up for their own agenda?
don't be daft, there's too much going on to do with a colour than to worry about something as meaningless as a game of football - and supporting it!
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:15 am
langley wrote:Another question? Do we have the right supporters ? Can we be a united fan base or will be still some that choose to stir it up for their own agenda?
Another season of unrest and divided fan base I would imagine, thank you for that Mr Tan
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:18 am
Really? he came in at almost the last third the season with the club in internal turmoil and in a relegation battle and because he didn't keep us up you decided that he's not PL class ?!?
The problem is not that we don't have the manager, the problem is we don't have the fans
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:27 am
langley wrote:Another question? Do we have the right supporters ? Can we be a united fan base or will be still some that choose to stir it up for their own agenda?
That IS the $64,000 question.Will he get the support from the fans.Always makes me smile when a fan or a journo for that matter tries to out techno a manager.And remember Carl,editors prefer journo's that can find a fault when there is none or make a problem out of nothing,which are you in this piece.Problem is we've been subject to drivel on the park for so long that when we have a good side we still look for trouble.I feel sorry for Ole because I feel its some of the fans and local media that need to be educated by the manager and not the other way around.And remember alot of these "players" that you refer to will tell you THE MANAGER played a big part in getting them to come here in the first place.
Just my opinion-have a great trip
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:28 am
I'm sure it's a view that the majority of supporters understandably have at the moment, however, I think that the the ones who voice it, especially in the media are the ones who took the dismissal of Malky hardest. There is still an element of hoping that OGS fails, so some people can once again criticise VT, as OGS was his appointment.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:36 am
Leytonstoneblue wrote:I'm sure it's a view that the majority of supporters understandably have at the moment, however, I think that the the ones who voice it, especially in the media are the ones who took the dismissal of Malky hardest. There is still an element of hoping that OGS fails, so some people can once again criticise VT, as OGS was his appointment.
To me this entire article is just quoting the obvious, now personally i would have preffered to have had Bielsa as much as i like Ole but i stongly doubt that even he could've kept us up ( i never really liked Malky btw ) so now we're just talking about what everyone already knows. Ole knows that he has to make a good start, Tan knows that Ole has to make a good start, we hope that Ole has a good start. So lets stop talking about the obvious and see if he can do it tonight. he certainly has the squad. Considering the opposition and its his first game, i will take a draw.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:44 am
BanterLad115 wrote:Leytonstoneblue wrote:I'm sure it's a view that the majority of supporters understandably have at the moment, however, I think that the the ones who voice it, especially in the media are the ones who took the dismissal of Malky hardest. There is still an element of hoping that OGS fails, so some people can once again criticise VT, as OGS was his appointment.
To me this entire article is just quoting the obvious, now personally i would have preffered to have had Bielsa as much as i like Ole but i stongly doubt that even he could've kept us up ( i never really liked Malky btw ) so now we're just talking about what everyone already knows. Ole knows that he has to make a good start, Tan knows that Ole has to make a good start, we hope that Ole has a good start. So lets stop talking about the obvious and see if he can do it tonight. he certainly has the squad. Considering the opposition and its his first game, i will take a draw.
I don't know about judgeing on tonights performance, i will give him 10 games before I come to any conclusions
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:48 am
Leytonstoneblue wrote:BanterLad115 wrote:Leytonstoneblue wrote:I'm sure it's a view that the majority of supporters understandably have at the moment, however, I think that the the ones who voice it, especially in the media are the ones who took the dismissal of Malky hardest. There is still an element of hoping that OGS fails, so some people can once again criticise VT, as OGS was his appointment.
To me this entire article is just quoting the obvious, now personally i would have preffered to have had Bielsa as much as i like Ole but i stongly doubt that even he could've kept us up ( i never really liked Malky btw ) so now we're just talking about what everyone already knows. Ole knows that he has to make a good start, Tan knows that Ole has to make a good start, we hope that Ole has a good start. So lets stop talking about the obvious and see if he can do it tonight. he certainly has the squad. Considering the opposition and its his first game, i will take a draw.
I don't know about judgeing on tonights performance, i will give him 10 games before I come to any conclusions

Naturally, but a loss tonight won't help his cause much on this board even if he does well for the rest of the season.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:52 am
An interesting article Carl, & like you, i also have little doubt that promotion this season can be secured if,,,we strengthen our defense.
All teams want to start well, & we should really judge after our first ten games, but my big fear is that if we loose tonight, & struggle during our early games, then the knifes will be out for him. I hope this isn't so.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:59 am
Id prefer Malky for the Championship but Ole's style will be fun to watch.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:21 pm
Good article Carl and in my opinion your only voicing concerns that the majority of fans are thinking as the season is about to start. I also believe that the vast majority of fans want him to get us promoted this season if for no other reason than he is such a likeable man.
In terms of the work he has done over the summer in the transfer market I think he deserves great credit and, whilst it would be great to have the CB recruits he has been chasing signed up, again I think it's great credit to OGS that he hasn't rushed into signing just anyone.
My concern for this season is not with OGS as I believe will we start to see his footballing ethos develop within the team, I also believe if it happens it will be wonderful to watch. But, does anyone truely feel that the dynamic within the club between owner, manager, players and fans is where it needs to be?
At each game this season there will be the "Protest" on 19.27 minutes regarding our traditional colours, will this affect the team? will it affect the manager? I wish it wasn't going to happen although I accept 100% that it needs to but for me VT, who has told OGS he must get us promoted this season, must realise that having the dynamic right within the club would be a massive boost to the manager and players.
In my opinion VT needs to announce as quickly as possible that we are returning to our traditional colours as soon as possible. Then we can ALL get on with doing what we do best - Supporting the manager and team for every second of every game.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:40 pm
carlccfc wrote:My first column of the season, read it all from the link before responding please
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... up-7583512Many bookmakers have installed the Bluebirds as favourites for the title, I can understand why because of the depth of quality we have.
But the question is still there... do we have the right manager to succeed in this league?
City had no right to beat any team last season, we were the newcomers in town and we had to prove our wort, but in the fancied games we didn’t just fail ... we got it spectacularly wrong.
That is what is putting doubt in my mind.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... up-7583512
Carl, I hope your going to give Solsksjaer time?
New season,fresh start,positive fans please
Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:49 pm
Utter bullock!!! The first day of season and this is the sticky; is OGS the right manager? So fed up with all this negativity and questionmarks, are you real supporters?? What the f**k is wrong with the fanbase? Theres always time for questions, but the first day of a new season??? Think about it a second or two...
Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:53 pm
The agenda on this board is pretty laughable. I'm not saying don't criticise Ole, but just be honest that there is an anti-Ole (because he is Tan's man) agenda on this board.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:59 pm
RFMH wrote:The agenda on this board is pretty laughable. I'm not saying don't criticise Ole, but just be honest that there is an anti-Ole (because he is Tan's man) agenda on this board.
Absolutely not, I think you are stereotyping people on this board which is very wrong.
I have doubts, like the majority do, but like those doubters we want Ole to succeed.
He has my support, simple as.
Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:18 pm
carlccfc wrote:RFMH wrote:The agenda on this board is pretty laughable. I'm not saying don't criticise Ole, but just be honest that there is an anti-Ole (because he is Tan's man) agenda on this board.
Absolutely not, I think you are stereotyping people on this board which is very wrong.
I have doubts, like the majority do, but like those doubters we want Ole to succeed.
He has my support, simple as.
I'm not being funny Carl, but to publish an article that questions the managers ability before the season starts and then say he has your full support is hypocritical

It's just negative, not objective or honest. You could quite easily have written a headline " After 2 years of negative football, I'm excited, to see us attack every team in this league"
Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:29 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:I'm not being funny Carl, but to publish an article that questions the managers ability before the season starts and then say he has your full support is hypocritical
My thoughts exactly!
Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:39 pm
Although I´m a fan of Ole, and as a Norwegian sort of obligated to be positive, Carl is one of my favorite posters in here, for the mostly rather objective and two sided in his comments. Personally, I haven´t read anything from Carl that suggests that he has any agenda against Ole. And based on the results last season, you can´t slaughter anyone for having the tiniest doubts in Ole as a manager.
However, I´m not sure how productive an article like this is before the first minutes of football are even played. If you wanted to be supportive (as claimed in the article), why picking your doubts in him as a manager as the headline for your article? Not very supportive, in my opinion. But of course, freedom of opinions and freedom of speech.
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