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Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:07 pm
http://youtu.be/V_m98GAdqKMSean Hannity is ripped by RB for an interview he conducted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-4WtHWYfwoAnd here is SH's reply.
For me, this American promotion of Israel's occupation of Palestinian lands and genocide is horrific. But when there's an agenda in place the mass media will always give a one sided argument.
Thoughts?
Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:37 pm
Aside from Hannity's objectionable views in those videos, on a wider level he is a horrible, reactionary worm of a man who sadly, has a lot of public support amongst gun toting, illiberal, bigoted Americans.
Believe it or not he (Hannity) is actually regarded as one of the key conservative thinkers in the states!
Unfortunately, morons like Hannity only serve to widen the divide and misunderstanding between two contrasting cultures. His extreme words and opinions - he has a huge platform in the US - also undoubtedly increase the threat to ordinary Americans around the globe from Islamic extremists.
No surprise whatsoever that Murdoch chose to give this idiot the oxygen of publicity.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:49 pm
Hannity is detestable. The daily show with Jon Stewart is forever tearing him a new one for his bare faced hypocrisy.
Bill O'Rieley is another one.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:39 pm
acejack3065 wrote:Hannity is detestable. The daily show with Jon Stewart is forever tearing him a new one for his bare faced hypocrisy.
Bill O'Rieley is another one.
This post has a 100% accuracy level.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:18 pm
Honestly couldn't care less what a bloke like Brand has to say. Vulgar human being who tries to be politically articulate but to anyone educated on such matters actually comes across politically illiterate.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:40 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Honestly couldn't care less what a bloke like Brand has to say. Vulgar human being who tries to be politically articulate but to anyone educated on such matters actually comes across politically illiterate.
"Vulgar Human" bit harsh....
I've stayed away from all of the Middle East topics.
But what The "Vulgar" one says in this video is pretty accurate.
The Palestine fella was targeted and not allowed to have his say.
Hannitty's final words to him... "You had your chance,you had your chance to say Hamas was a terrorist organisation,and you didn't,goodbye"
It wasn't a debate, it was just shoot to kill....
Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:03 pm
You'd be surprised that Russell Brand offers good debate.
Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:20 pm
Hannity interviews with a deliberate style.
It's "you can say what you want or you can say what I want to hear"
Don't play by his rules and it's as good as a stitch up.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:17 am
Brand is spot on yet again with his dissection of the Hannity interview. The most telling part was Hannity stating in response to the Palistinian asking if he gets to have a say was "NO, you had your chance when you didnt say Hamas were terrorists". Thats a terrifying one sided rhetoric.
The reaction to Brand has been even more scary on the subsequent FOX programmes who have gone into defensive propaganda overdrive calling him a D lister and how he is a nobody because he is no longer with Katy Perry. The dumbing down of that nation while pushing the government agenda and covering the truth is truly truly astonishing.
** sorry just realised some of this was covered already **
Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:34 am
TheRow wrote:
The dumbing down of that nation while pushing the government agenda and covering the truth is truly truly astonishing.
This makes absolutely no sense. What nation are you talking about? Who's pushing what government agenda? I'm guessing that you mean the USA but please elaborate on this.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:49 am
Welshman in CA wrote:TheRow wrote:
The dumbing down of that nation while pushing the government agenda and covering the truth is truly truly astonishing.
This makes absolutely no sense. What nation are you talking about? Who's pushing what government agenda? I'm guessing that you mean the USA but please elaborate on this.
Because you dont understand something doesnt mean it makes no sense, in fact, it makes perfect sense. But yes I shall happily elaborate.
USA and Israel are allies, USA give millions to Israel which a large proportion goes on arms which they are bow using to blow up Palestine. Some groups have got together to discourage this aid to Israel as it is, from some perspective, funding murder, war and the buzz word - terrorism. Rather than destroy what is a fruitful and powerful partnership with Israel, it is far more beneficial to say that in fact Palestine are the "terrorists".
FOX is a major corporation in the USA and often, in fact nearly always, push government rhetoric down the nations (yes USA) throat. Russell Brand commented on this "dumbing down" where only one side of the story gets told and the other eradicated in a blaze of anger whilst never being heard.
In retaliation to this FOX network went on a crusade to discredit Russell with many references to him not counting because he is a nobody now he has split up with katy perry, shouldnt be listened to because he looks like he needs a bath etc etc they are hiding the facts from the nation, refusing to discuss his actual point whilst hiding behind such things as celebrity culture to appeal to a young audience in convincing them that this man and his views should not be tolerated.
Dumbing down of nations has happened for centuries none more so since the age of the internet. It is propaganda designed to target the vast majority of that country, which in the whole, are pretty stupid.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:38 am
Fox news innit, he's an absolute c**t because he's not there to report the news but to set the agenda for gullible Americans so they'll willingly hand over their tax dollars for a fake f*cking war that wouldn't exist without them.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:39 am
TheRow wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:TheRow wrote:
The dumbing down of that nation while pushing the government agenda and covering the truth is truly truly astonishing.
This makes absolutely no sense. What nation are you talking about? Who's pushing what government agenda? I'm guessing that you mean the USA but please elaborate on this.
Because you dont understand something doesnt mean it makes no sense, in fact, it makes perfect sense. But yes I shall happily elaborate.
USA and Israel are allies, USA give millions to Israel which a large proportion goes on arms which they are bow using to blow up Palestine. Some groups have got together to discourage this aid to Israel as it is, from some perspective, funding murder, war and the buzz word - terrorism. Rather than destroy what is a fruitful and powerful partnership with Israel, it is far more beneficial to say that in fact Palestine are the "terrorists".
FOX is a major corporation in the USA and often, in fact nearly always, push government rhetoric down the nations (yes USA) throat. Russell Brand commented on this "dumbing down" where only one side of the story gets told and the other eradicated in a blaze of anger whilst never being heard.
In retaliation to this FOX network went on a crusade to discredit Russell with many references to him not counting because he is a nobody now he has split up with katy perry, shouldnt be listened to because he looks like he needs a bath etc etc they are hiding the facts from the nation, refusing to discuss his actual point whilst hiding behind such things as celebrity culture to appeal to a young audience in convincing them that this man and his views should not be tolerated.
Dumbing down of nations has happened for centuries none more so since the age of the internet. It is propaganda designed to target the vast majority of that country, which in the whole, are pretty stupid.
Spot on. The media is a government tool used to push the governments agendas on the public. CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX ect ect are all run by General Electric, News Corp, Walt Disney, Time Warner - all major political contributors, who also own all the magazines, radio stations, papers ect. It's all just propaganda.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:09 am
Correct. Hannity couldn't allow a fair debate or representation on the situation in Israel/Palestine as the truth paints Israel in a very bad light, and thus he didn't. He told the bloke outright he cannot speak anymore because he didn't give an answer to his question that suited his agenda. Shocking to watch.
Terrorism is such a relative term. He is taking the isolated "acts of terror" from Hamas and decided to not use them in context or the reasoning why, but look solely on them to justify why they should be attacked as if they were the aggressors. However, if you take it away from foreign lands and bring it to home soil and suggest that if Canada took over 90% of the USA and restricted the food going into it by calorie counting what is allowed in and as a result the USA fight back - would that be terrorism? Of course not.
It all depends what side of the fence you sit on, and the FOX network and its employed puppet Hannity are embarrassingly brazen in their allegiances.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:32 am
This is why I like the free press. Yes sometimes it does get a bit heavy with the conspiracy theories, but they aren't censored in their content.
David Icke I like because he keeps most of his reporting about British issues. Alex jones - although VERY American, is very passionate and manages to bring information to light that nobody else is able to (or willing too)
Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:17 am
Alex Jones knew that the USA would blame the next act of terror on Osama Bin Laden for pretext to war. He said it months before it happened.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Hk1-BpXO8
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:21 am
He gets a bit crazy at times, I think being from Texas doesn't help his case, he gets ridiculed a lot, but that's where people resort to Hannity tactics when they can't have an informed debate.
His bohemian grove film was good, the Obama deception is very eye opening, but invisible empire was my favourite. Very controversial gentleman
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:27 am
Yeah i agree, what he is saying makes a lot of sense at times however his delivery puts many, including myself, off listening to him on a regular basis.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:24 pm
TheRow wrote:Yeah i agree, what he is saying makes a lot of sense at times however his delivery puts many, including myself, off listening to him on a regular basis.
It hadn't put me off watching his show or films, but there are times he does exactly what Hannity did in the above video, and you're just crying out for him to calm down and be the bigger man!!
If what he predicts DOES happen though.., scary future ahead of us
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:03 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Honestly couldn't care less what a bloke like Brand has to say. Vulgar human being who tries to be politically articulate but to anyone educated on such matters actually comes across politically illiterate.
Maybe you couldn't care less, but you can't deny that Russell Brand is correct on this issue.
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:56 pm
Russell Brand has the right attitude and some good ideas, but his political naiivity does show at times, however since his interview with Paxman he's further educated himself, he's calmer and although it's still quite broad, his vocabulary isn't as vast as then!!
Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:38 pm
Hannity has scored a massive own goal here responding to Brand, as American's are going to want to see what Brand has said and will start waking up. Hannity is a despicable cretin, here's round 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5WlY8Uf5U
Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:11 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Hannity has scored a massive own goal here responding to Brand, as American's are going to want to see what Brand has said and will start waking up. Hannity is a despicable cretin, here's round 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5WlY8Uf5U
Good response from Brand; Calm and points well made - backed up by evidence.
It really does annoy me how Hannity thinks ridicule is the way to go about debating with someone, "D-list celeb" "failed marriage to Katy Perry" ect ect
He had no argument, he merely repeated himself, and based this whole spat on these 3000 rockets that he seems to bring up in response to everything.
Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:45 pm
Sorry to introduce some diversity here, you seem so comfortable agreeing with each other and apparently egging yourselves to ever more strident rhetoric, but well done to Hannity for annoying you
Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:49 pm
alfie sherwood wrote:Aside from Hannity's objectionable views in those videos, on a wider level he is a horrible, reactionary worm of a man who sadly, has a lot of public support amongst gun toting, illiberal, bigoted Americans.
Believe it or not he (Hannity) is actually regarded as one of the key conservative thinkers in the states!
Unfortunately, morons like Hannity only serve to widen the divide and misunderstanding between two contrasting cultures. His extreme words and opinions - he has a huge platform in the US - also undoubtedly increase the threat to ordinary Americans around the globe from Islamic extremists.
No surprise whatsoever that Murdoch chose to give this idiot the oxygen of publicity.
Charming stuff, and again you note that a conservative view does not accord with a liberal view. It's typical of so called liberals to think being liberal/left is the only valid perspective, and to be intolerant of an opposing view
Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:48 am
RobGog wrote:Sorry to introduce some diversity here, you seem so comfortable agreeing with each other and apparently egging yourselves to ever more strident rhetoric, but well done to Hannity for annoying you
Only in the sense that an uneducated moron annoys his teacher by asking stupid questions.
Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:47 pm
TheRow wrote:RobGog wrote:Sorry to introduce some diversity here, you seem so comfortable agreeing with each other and apparently egging yourselves to ever more strident rhetoric, but well done to Hannity for annoying you
Only in the sense that an uneducated moron annoys his teacher by asking stupid questions.
Well it's got people to embarrass themselves. Bit of a herd instinct going on wouldn't you say.
"Brazen" right wing view upcoming about Russell Brand, whose view people here seem to find appealing:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kness.htmlBtw you should have seen Hannity last night. he had the gall to disagree with a caliphate minded fellow, who lives in the UK. Going by your logic you would have found Hannity beyond "brazen"
Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:00 am
RobGog wrote:TheRow wrote:RobGog wrote:Sorry to introduce some diversity here, you seem so comfortable agreeing with each other and apparently egging yourselves to ever more strident rhetoric, but well done to Hannity for annoying you
Only in the sense that an uneducated moron annoys his teacher by asking stupid questions.
Well it's got people to embarrass themselves. Bit of a herd instinct going on wouldn't you say.
"Brazen" right wing view upcoming about Russell Brand, whose view people here seem to find appealing:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kness.htmlBtw you should have seen Hannity last night. he had the gall to disagree with a caliphate minded fellow, who lives in the UK. Going by your logic you would have found Hannity beyond "brazen"
I've seen this particular clip already, and the episode of Trews that they refer too.
In no way does Brand ever utter a single racist comment. Fox News IS a propaganda machine, pushing Republican agenda.
Sean Hannity gets no credibility from me as his interviews are unbalanced affairs, where he merely uses air time to shout at his opponents until they just give up and sit quietly for their segment to end.
Before we get into this, I just wana be clear, that ide like this to be a debate, and not get personal or offensive in our views, I respect that not all people agree with me, and that's absolutely fine
But can you explain your Herd instinct theory, and share your views on brand's ideas and what it is that you disagree with?
Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:45 am
Green Arrow wrote:Honestly couldn't care less what a bloke like Brand has to say. Vulgar human being who tries to be politically articulate but to anyone educated on such matters actually comes across politically illiterate.
I find that harsh, Brand may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he speaks well and has a fairly balanced point of view on many topics, I've subscribed to him on YouTube and his regular videos on current affairs and very interesting, not to mention entertaining.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:48 am
RobGog wrote:TheRow wrote:RobGog wrote:Sorry to introduce some diversity here, you seem so comfortable agreeing with each other and apparently egging yourselves to ever more strident rhetoric, but well done to Hannity for annoying you
Only in the sense that an uneducated moron annoys his teacher by asking stupid questions.
Well it's got people to embarrass themselves. Bit of a herd instinct going on wouldn't you say.
"Brazen" right wing view upcoming about Russell Brand, whose view people here seem to find appealing:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kness.htmlBtw you should have seen Hannity last night. he had the gall to disagree with a caliphate minded fellow, who lives in the UK. Going by your logic you would have found Hannity beyond "brazen"

herd instinct? Is it herd instinct that most think Messi is a good player, or is it just obviously the case?
Logic? It isnt really a question of logic, it is a question of understanding boundaries of human interaction on a level and fair ground. Hannity didnt allow someone to partake any further in the "discussion" because he didn't give the answer Hannity wanted him to give to an obviously loaded and poorly placed question with a ridiculously narrow parameter which would then lead the discussion away from the point in hand. That is neither level or fair.
He may disagree with anything he likes however to be taken seriously he must make sense first and foremost, and secondly conduct that sense in a manner the majority of participants are adhering to. Unfortunately for Hannity, he managed neither.
Brand was not racist at all in the clip mentioned. Fox news and fox in general in fact is one of the most unbalanced mediums for current affairs you could wish to find. Embarrassing at times and bullish and clumsy in its execution, however the intellectuals and eloquent orators get shouted down and unfortunately it caters for the majority, half of whom probably couldn't point to their own country in a map.
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