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Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:14 pm

BHDragons ‏@BH_Dragons 12m
Vincent Tan has donated 500,000KM to the victims of the floods in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Bravo!
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Well done Vincent. :ayatollah:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:17 pm

In fairness to the guy does a lot for charity.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:37 pm

If he genuinely cares its good.
if he just believes its good pr, and good karma etc.

then thats different the true telling of a good man are his dealings in business and certainly tan has demonstrated low morality towards
the benifit of people involved at this club an inconsideration to our history
and desire as supporters.
only interested in his agenda.

it kinda contradicts some of the good pr he gets which makes you wonder.
unless hes looking for balance and he feels guilt from his lack of morality in his business affairs so he gives for charity

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:48 pm

I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:52 pm

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol


Not everything is about us.

That's an FK Sarajevo shirt.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:53 pm

Wayne S wrote:
BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol


Not everything is about us.

That's an FK Sarajevo shirt.


What a two club wanker.....


(This is a joke :D )

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:55 pm

Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this :lol: Image

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:58 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this :lol:


:) proof that its all about putting the ball in the back of the net.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:16 pm

how anyone can suggest that a donation to flood victims is to balance the evil act of a rebrand is mental..

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:22 pm

Got to respect his decision to donate to a worthy cause.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:23 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this :lol: Image


Not necessarily.
that's over one sample of one game. Statistically over a proportion of where lets say we took the home sides have 100,000 efforts on goal to the away sides 30,000-40,000 in the same amount of games.
at best you will find that most shot's on targets largely outbeat less shots on target
which means the more creative your team is the more likely they are to win games and score goals.
there for if you are creating chances and having efforts at goal your doing all you can. and if you aren't you have problems

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:31 pm

Wayne S wrote:
BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol


Not everything is about us.

That's an FK Sarajevo shirt.



Haha alright calm down

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:33 pm

It probably is a PR stunt, but who cares!! At least people in need are benefiting from it. Good on you Mr Tan :thumbup:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:40 pm

Cardiffcitymad wrote:It probably is a PR stunt, but who cares!! At least people in need are benefiting from it. Good on you Mr Tan :thumbup:


Maybe but this is far from the first time. Pretty sure he has promised to give away a huge percentage of his wealth to charity.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:50 pm

sloper_road_legend wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this :lol: Image


Not necessarily.
that's over one sample of one game. Statistically over a proportion of where lets say we took the home sides have 100,000 efforts on goal to the away sides 30,000-40,000 in the same amount of games.
at best you will find that most shot's on targets largely outbeat less shots on target
which means the more creative your team is the more likely they are to win games and score goals.
there for if you are creating chances and having efforts at goal your doing all you can. and if you aren't you have problems



ffs thought we got rid of our resident statatician?? :laughing6:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:48 pm

Wouldn't really call it a PR stunt, donating that kind of money.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:52 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:how anyone can suggest that a donation to flood victims is to balance the evil act of a rebrand is mental..






Sadly, there are those with that mentality :oops:

Tan owns a club in Sarajevo and (just like in Cardiff and at home in Malaysia) he donates monies to local causes :thumbup:

How anyone can question that is beyond me, but as I said above... :roll:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:04 am

Now let's wait for the usual suspects to start their conspiracy theories about how this is just a front for Tan swiping money off our club or how it involves the rebrand. :roll:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:20 am

I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:24 am

Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!





Adam, that so disappoints :cry:

Where do you think the donated monies go, then??

Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??

Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??

I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"

Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to

Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)

As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??

Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least ;) ) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time

Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help

Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say :thumbup:

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:31 am

Sven wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!





Adam, that so disappoints :cry:

Where do you think the donated monies go, then??

Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??

Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??

I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"

Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to

Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)

As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??

Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least ;) ) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time

Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help

Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say :thumbup:


Sven whilst I completely understand your point/s my faith in Tan on doing the right thing expired along time ago and nothing he does would change my mind that he does things to get something in return and it maybe the lowest of low but I would also include donations to charity in that too.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:36 am

For some of you to be so clouded by hatred to see this is an act of Charity where he has a business is far beyond me...

Have you ever heard of 'The Giving Pledge'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_Pledge

I bet he's giving away 50% of his wealth because he wants to impress the haters... :\ seriously do people realize what Charity is? What it does and what it can accomplish?

Seriously some of you need to look deep down and make some changes if this is how you really feel; because it's sickening.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:39 am

Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!


Spot on. 500 grand is just a drop in the ocean for Tan and this stunt will "buy" the Sarajevo fans into going along with whatever he wants to do to that club. I will now await for Tan to inevitably do something controversial to that club with their fans now more likely to be manipulated into going along with Tan's wishes, sticking up for him with the "but he's a good guy, look what he's done to help our local charities" argument.

I'm not denying what Tan has done is a good thing, but I believe the reason people like Tan do any gesture like this is to give himself good PR, to put HIMSELF in a stronger position to do whatever he likes and get away with it.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:40 am

If he feels that much for peoples feelings then change the colour and badge back!!! Oh no he wont because he thinks that it wont make him money.

He give Cardiff charities money to help destroy the pro-blue campaign!! Are people so blind that they couldn't see this..?

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:42 am

.... I'm out :wave:

ffs...

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:44 am

Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!


Adam, this is why you get so much shit.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:47 am

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!


Adam, this is why you get so much shit.


You are pro-red anyway

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:03 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Sven wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!





Adam, that so disappoints :cry:

Where do you think the donated monies go, then??

Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??

Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??

I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"

Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to

Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)

As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??

Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least ;) ) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time

Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help

Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say :thumbup:


Sven whilst I completely understand your point/s my faith in Tan on doing the right thing expired along time ago and nothing he does would change my mind that he does things to get something in return and it maybe the lowest of low but I would also include donations to charity in that too.




That's really sad, Adam. Worthy charities benefiting from rich benefactors (including Tan) should be applauded :thumbup:

Football and REAL life CAN be separated, you know! ;)

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:08 pm

Sven wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Sven wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!





Adam, that so disappoints :cry:

Where do you think the donated monies go, then??

Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??

Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??

I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"

Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to

Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)

As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??

Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least ;) ) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time

Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help

Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say :thumbup:


Sven whilst I completely understand your point/s my faith in Tan on doing the right thing expired along time ago and nothing he does would change my mind that he does things to get something in return and it maybe the lowest of low but I would also include donations to charity in that too.




That's really sad, Adam. Worthy charities benefiting from rich benefactors (including Tan) should be applauded :thumbup:

Football and REAL life CAN be separated, you know! ;)


Agreed Sven but an example of good PR is to twist a real meaning with good causes is it not..?

We all seen the what happened afterwards, many people supported him even through they never watched a game and he even had a honorary degree from the University!!! Yet he won't stop hurting the fans of the club by doing something which will cost him nothing in the scale of things by changing the colours and badge back. To me it shows the real meaning of his actions.

Re: Vincent Tan donates money to Bosnian victims

Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:25 pm

Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.

If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!


your a very sad twisted person..