Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:14 pm

Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:17 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:37 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:48 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:52 pm
BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:53 pm
Wayne S wrote:BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol
Not everything is about us.
That's an FK Sarajevo shirt.
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:55 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:58 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this![]()
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:16 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:22 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:23 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this![]()
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:31 pm
Wayne S wrote:BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:I swear he most sleep in his Cardiff top lol
Not everything is about us.
That's an FK Sarajevo shirt.
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:33 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:40 pm
Cardiffcitymad wrote:It probably is a PR stunt, but who cares!! At least people in need are benefiting from it. Good on you Mr Tan
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:50 pm
sloper_road_legend wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Unfortunately the sister club of Cardiff didn't do too well tonight.. Read this![]()
Not necessarily.
that's over one sample of one game. Statistically over a proportion of where lets say we took the home sides have 100,000 efforts on goal to the away sides 30,000-40,000 in the same amount of games.
at best you will find that most shot's on targets largely outbeat less shots on target
which means the more creative your team is the more likely they are to win games and score goals.
there for if you are creating chances and having efforts at goal your doing all you can. and if you aren't you have problems
Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:48 pm
Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:52 pm
simon.wiesenthal wrote:how anyone can suggest that a donation to flood victims is to balance the evil act of a rebrand is mental..
Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:04 am
Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:20 am
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:24 am
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:31 am
Sven wrote:Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Adam, that so disappoints![]()
Where do you think the donated monies go, then??
Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??
Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??
I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"
Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to
Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)
As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??
Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time
Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help
Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:36 am
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:39 am
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:40 am
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:42 am
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:44 am
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:47 am
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Adam, this is why you get so much shit.
Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:03 pm
Military Junta wrote:Sven wrote:Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Adam, that so disappoints![]()
Where do you think the donated monies go, then??
Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??
Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??
I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"
Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to
Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)
As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??
Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time
Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help
Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say
Sven whilst I completely understand your point/s my faith in Tan on doing the right thing expired along time ago and nothing he does would change my mind that he does things to get something in return and it maybe the lowest of low but I would also include donations to charity in that too.
Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:08 pm
Sven wrote:Military Junta wrote:Sven wrote:Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!
Adam, that so disappoints![]()
Where do you think the donated monies go, then??
Does it not benefit the people who genuinely need it in most cases??
Does it not help alleviate the suffering of people who are often unable to help themselves for so many genuine reasons (as in Bosnia)??
I think you must have a very narrow view of the world if you genuinely believe that everyone who can afford to donate to charity (large or small amounts) does it solely for "PR reasons"
Thank goodness SOMEONE (in this case the affluent Tan) gets off their backside to "make a difference" to the people who matter, whilst others (sadly including you, ironically a former politician) stand in their Ivory Towers and shout loudly that he is doing it for ulteria motives other than conscience, a desire to help others, and (luckily for him) that he can afford to
Like many on here, I donate to certain charities regularly and others when I can. I don't stand on a soap box and announce it to the world every time because I don't do it for that. I do it because people actually NEED it on occasion in order to advance treatment and/or conditions for others who may be seriously ill and/or who may be suffering through no fault of their own. What I will do though, is choose the charities I want to support (and which may be personal to me and mine)
As a former politician, how did YOU advance the lives of the poorest in the community YOU represented??
Somehow, your reply above suggests "not a lot" and may well point (in part at least) as to why you weren't invited by the required majority to represent them a second time
Don't 'knock' Tan (or anyone else) for donating to charity when they can afford to do so. Rather have a 'pop' at the politicians who often (but not always, depending on who they need to appease) stand idly by when people are crying out for real (not rhetorical) help
Personally, I didn't 'knock' Tan when he donated to worthy charities in Cardiff and I see no need to do so when he does it elsewhere. Good on him but even better for others, I say
Sven whilst I completely understand your point/s my faith in Tan on doing the right thing expired along time ago and nothing he does would change my mind that he does things to get something in return and it maybe the lowest of low but I would also include donations to charity in that too.
That's really sad, Adam. Worthy charities benefiting from rich benefactors (including Tan) should be applauded![]()
Football and REAL life CAN be separated, you know!
Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:25 pm
Military Junta wrote:I don't give a f**k about Tan, Sarajevo and in fact Bosian flood victims whos Government should be looking after their people when it comes to floods.
If people don't realise that donating to local charities is a PR stunt then they really don't know PR. Lets be honest when he done it here it was helping to strengthen the pro-Tan argument from people who many had never even watched Cardiff City in their lives before!!!