This "COMPROMISE" ???

What do you think this means by Vincent tan?
Return to blue? Or a red and blue kit? Or a return of our badge?

Would this be enough for you?

For me no, Vincent tan needs to get rid of the red full stop and return us back to our original badge and blue white and yellow colours.

What do you think this means by Vincent tan?
Return to blue? Or a red and blue kit? Or a return of our badge?

Would this be enough for you?

For me no, Vincent tan needs to get rid of the red full stop and return us back to our original badge and blue white and yellow colours.

Regarding Tans so called compromise, Where is it?

He has stated once promoted,we can then discuss " possible " compromise

Its unlike Tan to change his mind

And so 3 years later Tan might discuss a possible compromise

Lets discuss it now and put it all in place Mr Tan

" WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

Exactly, tell us tan lovers what is the difference in turning us blue now instead of when we get promoted, can't believe people are taking his statement as a positive! This was his aim playing the fans like fools and it's working by the looks because the people who have taken his statements as a positive are fools

Why has c.rombie-coat's post been edited?

No compromise for me, unless it's blue with our badge then it's a no from me.

A blue and red kit is just as bad as a red kit. We would still look like someone to else.

Blue would be before the badge though.

No compromise for me, unless it's blue with our badge then it's a no from me.

A blue and red kit is just as bad as a red kit. We would still look like someone to else.

Blue would be before the badge though.

Spot on for me too.

Why has c.rombie-coat's post been edited?

Natman, because he accused BluMagic of being me, which is total lies

I can post for myself thanks and argue for myself

No compromise for me, unless it's blue with our badge then it's a no from me.

A blue and red kit is just as bad as a red kit. We would still look like someone to else.

Blue would be before the badge though.

Spot on for me too.

I second that Alex and Luke



No Compromise for me BLUE end off

Can you imagine if we went red and blue in my opinion worse than a red kit tan is a bor liar, and where's this training ground he's supposed to be building

Why has c.rombie-coat's post been edited?

Natman, because he accused BluMagic of being me, which is total lies

I can post for myself thanks and argue for myself

Ok. So can you give me a link to where Tan said we'd be debt free in days?

If memory serves correct was the compromise line not offered with the suggestion of blue return just before the Chelsea match.
(Inbetween rants about Malky) ?
Surely most city fans saw that for what it was...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

I hope its not red shirt, blue shorts!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

I hope its not red shirt, blue shorts!

It's a shame that they never took advantage of Karl Payne's designs when the whole rebrand was introduced as it would have at least been a lot more classy than the shite they came out with

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

I hope its not red shirt, blue shorts!

It's a shame that they never took advantage of Karl Payne's designs when the whole rebrand was introduced as it would have at least been a lot more classy than the shite they came out with

Definitely agree with this as an initial compromise. He made some top stuff!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate him, u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on here 24/7

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate, him u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on her 24/7

But they aren't direct words from him there's a difference regardless how you see it. Anyway as I said things can change very quickly just like they did with Sam taking the debt with him

And no I don't love him just don't like hypocrites and lies to twist agendas

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate him, u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on here 24/7

But they aren't direct words from him there's a difference regardless how you see it. Anyway as I said things can change very quickly just like they did with Sam taking the debt with him

And no I don't love him just don't like hypocrites and lies to suit agendas

I cant take u serious anymoe

Where are the lies from me please? State them now?
Plenty from Tan and u unless you show me that I have?

I will say this, I do think you fully back Tan and his agenda

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate him, u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on here 24/7

But they aren't direct words from him there's a difference regardless how you see it. Anyway as I said things can change very quickly just like they did with Sam taking the debt with him

And no I don't love him just don't like hypocrites and lies to suit agendas

I cant take u serious anymoe

Where are the lies from me please? State them now?
Plenty from Tan and u unless you show me that I have?

I will say this, I do think you fully back Tan and his agenda

I say lies as in everything that goes wrong with this clubs is attributed to Tan such as signings etc.

You can think I back Tan all you like I don't care. No I don't like Tan purely for the rebrand however he has certainly lived up to every part of the deal for the rebrand that the majority accepted. I will fully support any form of protest against the rebrand and for the return of blue so no please don't lump me as Pro-Tan just because I don't agree with you thank you

Please show me where I have lied please. By the way you still haven't commented on the fact Sam changed his mind on the debt owed to him

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate him, u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on here 24/7

But they aren't direct words from him there's a difference regardless how you see it. Anyway as I said things can change very quickly just like they did with Sam taking the debt with him

And no I don't love him just don't like hypocrites and lies to suit agendas

I cant take u serious anymoe

Where are the lies from me please? State them now?
Plenty from Tan and u unless you show me that I have?

I will say this, I do think you fully back Tan and his agenda

I say lies as in everything that goes wrong with this clubs is attributed to Tan such as signings etc.

You can think I back Tan all you like I don't care. No I don't like Tan purely for the rebrand however he has certainly lived up to every part of the deal for the rebrand that the majority accepted. I will fully support any form of protest against the rebrand and for the return of blue so no please don't lump me as Pro-Tan just because I don't agree with you thank you

Please show me where I have lied please. By the way you still haven't commented on the fact Sam changed his mind on the debt owed to him

I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-aims-make-cardiff-5737145


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25696891

CCFC CEO'S TANS MEN.

Plus Allan Whitley stated to us in a meeting, we would be Debt Free on Tans behalf

Simon Lim told some of the travel club incl Carl, that Tan says we will be Debt Free within months

So based on that article it wasn't confirmed 100% that it would be debt free, it was as long as everything goes right it will be, which is certainly different. It's disappointing that we won't be made a 100% debt free but as someone said it's arguably not beneficial that we hold off doing a 100% conversion for FFP.

Not really interested in those articles TANS CEO'S on his behalf, both have stated it, direct to us

So that's not him then. The question Natman asked was direct quotes from Tan himself. Anyway things can change very quickly depending on the situation just like Sam saying the debt will leave with him

I hate Tan for the rebrand but let's not twist every little thing

Are u serious? they are the CEO'S OF CCFC ACTING ON HIS BEHALF



Hate him, u sound like you love him fighting to defend him on here 24/7

But they aren't direct words from him there's a difference regardless how you see it. Anyway as I said things can change very quickly just like they did with Sam taking the debt with him

And no I don't love him just don't like hypocrites and lies to suit agendas

I cant take u serious anymoe

Where are the lies from me please? State them now?
Plenty from Tan and u unless you show me that I have?

I will say this, I do think you fully back Tan and his agenda

I say lies as in everything that goes wrong with this clubs is attributed to Tan such as signings etc.

You can think I back Tan all you like I don't care. No I don't like Tan purely for the rebrand however he has certainly lived up to every part of the deal for the rebrand that the majority accepted. I will fully support any form of protest against the rebrand and for the return of blue so no please don't lump me as Pro-Tan just because I don't agree with you thank you

Please show me where I have lied please. By the way you still haven't commented on the fact Sam changed his mind on the debt owed to him

I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?

Sam gets brought up because he was a previous owner who also ran up the debt, very similar to our current owner so quite apt to compare them, specially when fans refused to call him out over increasing our debt. Sam certainly did not leave us with a squad worth more than our debt otherwise we would have sold them and had no debt so that's a poor excuse. However. Tan has certainly left us with a team worth a lot of money as well as expanded our ground and hopefully a new training ground which we can use as an asset.

Anyway I have not called you liar in this thread so no I am not a liar thank you

Edit: Didn't see your edit. Exactly we have always been in debt yet no one moaned (harder to tell seeing as message boards weren't about, either way at least compared to them and Sam, Tan can afford our debt and is more determined than ever to reach the Premier League

Those 2 articles seem quite consistent with what I've always maintained. The time frame of days (which is what was started by annis) is never mentioned. It is always a long term plan as things click into place. If they do (God willing) it sound be months, if not it could be longer. Since that article there's been a number of things (scam, malky/moody, vitriolic fans and relegation) Which had got in the way. Nothing anywhere had started his long term aim had changed its just taking longer.

So then, where's the quote from Tan to say days as what you started earlier?

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I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?[/quote]

Although I maybe wrong but i think the reason why people bring sam up in these arguements is your very vocal against clemo/ridsdale/tan but did nothing at all against sam

I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?[/quote]

Although I maybe wrong but i think the reason why people bring sam up in these arguements is your very vocal against clemo/ridsdale/tan but did nothing at all against sam[/quote]


And Jinks have we or not discussed this topic before and I replied and u understood?

Why has c.rombie-coat's post been edited?

Natman, because he accused BluMagic of being me, which is total lies

I can post for myself thanks and argue for myself

I only asked 'is that you?' - You have made your answer.
Was it entirely coincidental that this thread was started when Mr Tan's compromise was being aired on the 'can't get me head round it' thread?

And on the debt.
In essence there is nothing wrong with a company having debt.The big problem is when things get out of control and the principal/interest repayments cannot be met. When the bank calls in the loan then the problem crystallizes. Sam hit exactly this problem with Citigroup and the Club was fucked as Sam had run out of time and money.
The very big difference between the Sam and Tan debt is that Mr Tan seems entirely in control of the debt and is not in hock to a bank in the way that Sam was.