MALKY MAKAY FOLLOWERS-ARE YOUR VIEWS OF HIM CHANGING?

It seems that all the management jobs are passing him by, when you consider two of the clubs on offer Norwich and Celtic were shoe ins and they still chose another candidate, does this not cast doubt on his abilities or even integrity with those within the game? Might some of you who worshipped at the alter of Makay are starting to doubt your faith Ultimately, was the devil that is Vincent Tan being vindicated in his dismissal of a manager who had more flaws than what the media and certain fanatical supporters with an agenda allowed you to see?

My view of MM is that he is the only manager to get us to the top division and look like keeping us there under very difficult circumstances.

I'm not getting involved

Malky got us to the Prem that cant be taken away . His transfer dealings were shalll we say dubious and ultimately owners will want a huge say on who he signs and suggest he is no-where near the final dealings.

His style is defensive but dont forget he was learning , we were his biggest club and biggest challenge.

Time will tell but yes with the couple of clubs stated esp Norwich wanting to go back up very unusual.

Facts and rumours travel within the game - can we read too much into this - yes - guess we will see whats happens.

apology and no claim speaks a thousand words yet no one really knows what did actually happen

That started out as a really good question but once you added the reference to Tan it opened up the PROBABILITY that Tan haters won't answer honestly because they think it would mean they're showing Tan some support.

Unfortunately there's a number of our fans who wouldn't agree with any of the good things Tans done, even to save their own family from tragedy.

Apart from that I agree and have right from the start. There is defo a good reason why Tan got shot of Malky and Moody in the way he did. Quite apart from the fact that his football in the Premier League was, in the main, crap

No.

Delete all posts with Malky in them. Who cares . Ancient history. Move on.

Who cares get over him and move on

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

My views on MM have not changed and I still believe him to be the best manager our club has had since Jimmy Scoular. History will always show that he was the manager who took our club back to the top division for the first time in 50 years and in his short time at the club he took us to a League Cup Final where we put up a truly amazing performance.

Whatever the reasons behind his dismissal nothing can take away the things that he acheived during his time as manager and I have no doubt he will eventually get another job and his career will get back on course.

Malky was good he knew how to play the game.....meeting the fans fist pumps and playing the media like a violin.
for lots of fans it was love at first sight......ill never forget that horrible song that we had to listen too on our night of promotion, it felt all wrong and it probably was.

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

First and only one until we started struggling in the premier then others joined you.

Males me laugh but these others were not slagging him off when we were top of the championship. There is a word for these sort of supporters and its called being a plastic.

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

First and only one until we started struggling in the premier then others joined you.

Males me laugh but these others were not slagging him off when we were top of the championship. There is a word for these sort of supporters and its called being a plastic.

So Im a plastic?

Well done

It seems that all the management jobs are passing him by, when you consider two of the clubs on offer Norwich and Celtic were shoe ins and they still chose another candidate, does this not cast doubt on his abilities or even integrity with those within the game? Might some of you who worshipped at the alter of Makay are starting to doubt your faith Ultimately, was the devil that is Vincent Tan being vindicated in his dismissal of a manager who had more flaws than what the media and certain fanatical supporters with an agenda allowed you to see?

Well he's a lot better then Ole tthat's a fact.

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

First and only one until we started struggling in the premier then others joined you.

Males me laugh but these others were not slagging him off when we were top of the championship. There is a word for these sort of supporters and its called being a plastic.

So Im a plastic?

Well done

You paranoid Craig?

As I said it was only Polo here who criticised MM the season before. Fair enough you criticised him after a few games in the premier but then we have the avalanche of so called fans like the OP here joining the band after MM was sacked and have continued to their agenda against him. As I said I did not see these guys slagging him off when we were winning but as soon as we are losing well what do you make of these fans?

Fair enough. I misunderstood what you were saying

Fair enough. I misunderstood what you were saying

I could have put it better got to say though.

No - our best Manager in the last 50 years.

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

First and only one until we started struggling in the premier then others joined you.

Males me laugh but these others were not slagging him off when we were top of the championship. There is a word for these sort of supporters and its called being a plastic.

Of course people will criticise when the team start playing badly and results go against us. Especially when it became clear that Malkys dealings in the transfer market was dubious to say the least.

Just because a manager gets a club to the premier league doesn't make him immune from criticism especially when more and more information regarding Malky comes out and gives valid reason for people to turn...

Follower? I only follow One and it isn't Malky!

Opinion hasn't changed, why would it? A terrific manager who did a very good job. All managers make mistakes in the market and I know that even AC was highly rated when we got him.

Tan has tried hard to blemish his reputation and it worked. I also think people are put off by defensive style of football though I believe Malky can coach more attacking teams from his time at Watford.

He'll get another job soon and will probably take crucial points off us next season knowing the way football works!

I dont understand how people can rate Malky so high.

Malky: 125 games 54 wins 37 draw 34 loss 43.20 win%

Got us promoted and took us to the League cup final.

Dave Jones: 315 games 132 wins 84 draw 99 loss 41.90 win%

Took us to our highest league position in 39 years (4th) and took us to the FA cup final.

What is the difference in the acheivement of these 2?

Dave Jones never got us promoted to the PL but i rate his 4th place and FA cup final much higher than Malky`s promotion and League cup final due to the fact that Dave had almost no money to spend.

And i rate the FA cup much higher than the League cup. League cup is almost a junior team cup.

Dave Jones built the foundation Malky got success with. It says alot that in a few months most of Malky`s signings are gone with a huge economic loss for the club while Dave`s transfers are still vital parts of the club and most has given us or will give us a huge profit that again benefits the club.

I love my club so much that i dont worship a man just because he got us promoted. I look at what it means to the club and most of the money we earned on promotion he wasted on bad transfers where we wont even get 50% of the money back.
His bad transfers also made us a joke throughout the whole football world. I remember mates laughing at me when they read that we spent 8mill on a player who had scored 18 goals in his WHOLE professional football life in DENMARK. And we were gonna do big things in the PL.

Some of our fans rate Malky highly because he gave them inside info and fist pumps. I dont rate him at all because any clown would got us up with the economical support he was given. Now lets move on, Malky is gone and no other clubs seem to want him so to me that says alot.

He even failed at getting the Celtic job, they appointed Ronny Deila from the Norwgian club Strømsgodset instead.

I'm not a "follower", but Malky Mackay was a great manager for us and his achievements of getting us to the Carling Cup final and getting us promoted to the Premier League won't be forgotten.

Why would anyone's opinion change because he hasn't got a new job?
And the shit with the apology.... he probably had to do that to get the settlement off tan but well never know.
Plus, wtf do people think he could of possibly done that he had to apologize for apart from an overspend that tan allowed to happen?

I dont understand how people can rate Malky so high.

Malky: 125 games 54 wins 37 draw 34 loss 43.20 win%

Got us promoted and took us to the League cup final.

Dave Jones: 315 games 132 wins 84 draw 99 loss 41.90 win%

Took us to our highest league position in 39 years (4th) and took us to the FA cup final.

What is the difference in the acheivement of these 2?

Dave Jones never got us promoted to the PL but i rate his 4th place and FA cup final much higher than Malky`s promotion and League cup final due to the fact that Dave had almost no money to spend.

And i rate the FA cup much higher than the League cup. League cup is almost a junior team cup.

Dave Jones built the foundation Malky got success with. It says alot that in a few months most of Malky`s signings are gone with a huge economic loss for the club while Dave`s transfers are still vital parts of the club and most has given us or will give us a huge profit that again benefits the club.

I love my club so much that i dont worship a man just because he got us promoted. I look at what it means to the club and most of the money we earned on promotion he wasted on bad transfers where we wont even get 50% of the money back.
His bad transfers also made us a joke throughout the whole football world. I remember mates laughing at me when they read that we spent 8mill on a player who had scored 18 goals in his WHOLE professional football life in DENMARK. And we were gonna do big things in the PL.

Some of our fans rate Malky highly because he gave them inside info and fist pumps. I dont rate him at all because any clown would got us up with the economical support he was given. Now lets move on, Malky is gone and no other clubs seem to want him so to me that says alot.

He even failed at getting the Celtic job, they appointed Ronny Deila from the Norwgian club Strømsgodset instead.

Theres one big difference, Malky took us to the prem

My views on MM have not changed and I still believe him to be the best manager our club has had since Jimmy Scoular. History will always show that he was the manager who took our club back to the top division for the first time in 50 years and in his short time at the club he took us to a League Cup Final where we put up a truly amazing performance.

Whatever the reasons behind his dismissal nothing can take away the things that he acheived during his time as manager and I have no doubt he will eventually get another job and his career will get back on course.

How can you have no doubt? He stated on May 16th that he wants to get back into management immediately, yet given that jobs have come up at the two clubs that he has massive links to, he doesn't seem to have been considered, that must surely raise some doubts in the type of job he will eventually get. There are certainly plenty of doubts from chairmen out there as shown by the jobs that are currently passing him by. Maybe there is some truth in Tans statement that Malky got lucky, with having a generous owner backing him

Delete all posts with Malky in them. Who cares . Ancient history. Move on.

Yet you take the time to post a response and you don't care- weird

I was the first poster to rumble the charlatan and I feel vindicated with each job that passes him by

First and only one until we started struggling in the premier then others joined you.

Males me laugh but these others were not slagging him off when we were top of the championship. There is a word for these sort of supporters and its called being a plastic.

Many on here and who I go to games with were never happy with the style of play and were critical, not to the point of wanting him sacked like Polo. The guy was winning promotion so why slag him off, non-sensical. The question is not about what he achieved here, it's about how those who fervently supported him are viewing it now, given that jobs are coming up, yet he doesn't appear to be coming close to getting one. Malkys disciples thought he would be inundated with job offers, yet that hasn't been the case. So questions will be asked

It seems that all the management jobs are passing him by, when you consider two of the clubs on offer Norwich and Celtic were shoe ins and they still chose another candidate, does this not cast doubt on his abilities or even integrity with those within the game? Might some of you who worshipped at the alter of Makay are starting to doubt your faith Ultimately, was the devil that is Vincent Tan being vindicated in his dismissal of a manager who had more flaws than what the media and certain fanatical supporters with an agenda allowed you to see?

Well he's a lot better then Ole tthat's a fact.

Not a fact, just your opinion

No one can deny Malky Mackay's achievements while at Cardiff City FC,,,,but it all came at a staggering price.

I mean, could Dave Jones not have achieved a similar feat with the same amount of funds at his disposal? After all, we were only 90 minutes away from achieving Premiership football with him four years ago, with a fraction of the budget that MM had.

For all Malky Macky's qualities as a manager, Im afraid he was found wanting at the highest level,,,last summers signings are a testimont to that fact,,, & he wanted more funds in the January transfer window??

I dont understand how people can rate Malky so high.

Malky: 125 games 54 wins 37 draw 34 loss 43.20 win%

Got us promoted and took us to the League cup final.

Dave Jones: 315 games 132 wins 84 draw 99 loss 41.90 win%

Took us to our highest league position in 39 years (4th) and took us to the FA cup final.

What is the difference in the acheivement of these 2?

Dave Jones never got us promoted to the PL but i rate his 4th place and FA cup final much higher than Malky`s promotion and League cup final due to the fact that Dave had almost no money to spend.

And i rate the FA cup much higher than the League cup. League cup is almost a junior team cup.

Dave Jones built the foundation Malky got success with. It says alot that in a few months most of Malky`s signings are gone with a huge economic loss for the club while Dave`s transfers are still vital parts of the club and most has given us or will give us a huge profit that again benefits the club.

I love my club so much that i dont worship a man just because he got us promoted. I look at what it means to the club and most of the money we earned on promotion he wasted on bad transfers where we wont even get 50% of the money back.
His bad transfers also made us a joke throughout the whole football world. I remember mates laughing at me when they read that we spent 8mill on a player who had scored 18 goals in his WHOLE professional football life in DENMARK. And we were gonna do big things in the PL.

Some of our fans rate Malky highly because he gave them inside info and fist pumps. I dont rate him at all because any clown would got us up with the economical support he was given. Now lets move on, Malky is gone and no other clubs seem to want him so to me that says alot.

He even failed at getting the Celtic job, they appointed Ronny Deila from the Norwgian club Strømsgodset instead.

Jones made us £20m+ from transfers. Even more if we sell Marshall for a decent sum and you class it as his business. He did bring him I'm but still some credit must go to those who worked with Marshall since Jones left. Anyway, Malky spent tens of millions more. In total, the difference is around £65m in terms of their money. Jones had us in profit in terms of transfers and Malky added the very debt many abused Sam for. Its actually hilarious in some ways yet Malky is still idolised by many, seemingly those unable to comprehend balance sheets.

Jones is ten times the manager Malky is and would have took us well over 100 points had he had £12m plus wages to spend in one season alone. He never had that luxury always wheeling and dealing. Jones I believe also would have kept us up as he would have had experience and bought right in the summer.

Sometimes you don't realise what you got until its gone and Jones is one of those things - kept us in with a chance at the top and making profit in transfer market and had us playing great football at times too. He was the Championships Wenger, a businessmen's dream and competing near the top with a chance of finally making it with low risk. Malky was a Championship Mancini, had money to spend at the required level but money wise clueless.

Many fans were jealous of Swansea's promotion and wanted to be up their too. Our desire got the better of us and we became inpatient. We sacked Jones after calling for him to leave and brought in Malky. A lot of us thought the sun shined out of his arse, myself included, but then when the financial stuff comes out transparency is at its fullest and the truth comes.

We threw money at the dream and now we are in much more debt. We should have been patient and took our time with Jones. We were hardly at risk of relegation under him. We were playoff hopefuls and always in with a chance under him.