Fight for blue.... Team? Club?... Home truths.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

Worry about your own club and we will worry about ours

Worry about your own club and we will worry about ours

Nothing to worry about regarding my team. If there is something then I shall no doubt.

You are my hometown club however and will always have an interest, not to mention a viewpoint from a much clearer position than the majority on here.

you think people are going to read what what you've wrote

Top post in fairness.

Top post in fairness.

Tis indeed young Joff. Its simply the truth.

A lot of people wish to turn a blind eye to it, they are the "want it both ways" brigade. Want blue, sure... but want crippling unsustainable success more.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

none of your business why don't you f**k off on your own clubs website

none of your business why don't you f**k off on your own clubs website

Hi wesley.

Im sure you have asked me this many times before, and also sure I've answered that many times before. You really want me to answer again?

Get yourself a girlfriend and get down the pub fella.........your getting obsessed with this site.

Get yourself a girlfriend and get down the pub fella.........your getting obsessed with this site.

I think my fiancee would have something to say about that pal, but i appreciate the words of wisdom

Penny? How much did he put in to your club again? Can't recall if it was a tenner or twenty? Hardly any comparison at all. We will be blue again don't worry roathie.

Penny? How much did he put in to your club again? Can't recall if it was a tenner or twenty? Hardly any comparison at all. We will be blue again don't worry roathie.

What has what he put in got to do with anything?

I'm a supporter of Cardiff City football Club.

Players come and go...

The Team changes constantly...


Cardiff City Football Club Remains...

I'm a supporter of Cardiff City football Club.

Players come and go...

The Team changes constantly...


Cardiff City Football Club Remains...

My point in a nutshell.

The club needs focus, the team should be a distant second. Seems a lot of priorities are wrong. A matchday has 99% dedicated to the team and 1% dedicated to the club, when the club is crying out for help to the fans who are the guardians of the club.... The cries are falling on deaf ears thus far.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

By the fans only going in blue its a 100% of our match protest. The rest of the time the fans should be supporting the team because at the end of the day they are still Cardiff.

Its easy for you as an outsider to tell us what we should and shouldnt be doing but the truth is no one should listen to you because as a jack its got nothing to do with you. We showed Tony Petty what for blah blah blah, your like a stuck record.

Id say the best thing for Cardiff is the opposite of what your saying, we should only wear blue and support our players & get the scarves out at 19:27. The better the team do the more publicity we get, being in the premier league the publicity generated is global. Getting publicity like that increases our chances of a potential buyer.

Sick of you and your jumped up opinion thinking you know whats best for Cardiff. The Cardiff fans will work out whats best for Cardiff City FC.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

By the fans only going in blue its a 100% of our match protest. The rest of the time the fans should be supporting the team because at the end of the day they are still Cardiff.

wearing blue isnt really a protest is it. If it were the intention of a protest then it would be more than just wearing your away colours - yet it is seen as "enough". Which again is my point.

Its easy for you as an outsider to tell us what we should and shouldnt be doing but the truth is no one should listen to you because as a jack its got nothing to do with you. We showed Tony Petty what for blah blah blah, your like a stuck record.

it makes no difference who i support. The fact im not emotionally connected to the club is why my views are far more balanced and clear than the average poster - which again is why im right a scarily amount of times.

Id say the best thing for Cardiff is the opposite of what your saying, we should only wear blue and support our players & get the scarves out at 19:27. The better the team do the more publicity we get, being in the premier league the publicity generated is global. Getting publicity like that increases our chances of a potential buyer.

rubbish. The team on the pitch are irrelevant. If your goal is to get a buyer then i despair, look at your last two buyers.

Your aim should be stamping your authority as custodians of the club and not sitting back for 89 minutes and cheering the superficial red creation.

Sick of you and your jumped up opinion thinking you know whats best for Cardiff. The Cardiff fans will work out whats best for Cardiff City FC.

you can be sick of anything you like, however it has been left to you guys and you now play in red with a divided fanbase and £150m in debt. You arent doing the greatest job of working out what is right in front of your eyes, over 2 years and all we have is 60 seconds per game of pretty photo opportunity rubbish.

It's got everything to do with it as you keep bringing it up like you ran him out of town, did he own you? No, did he put in 100 million? No did he even come to Swansea more than once , no. You did nothing and nor did he. Why go on about it when you know how different our scenarios are. You think your clever, but let's face it you ain't. Your just trying to stir up anything for attention as usual.

It's got everything to do with it as you keep bringing it up like you ran him out of town.

We did.

did he own you? No.

yes.

did he put in 100 million? No

no, whats that got to do with anything?

did he even come to Swansea more than once , no.

yes.

You did nothing and nor did he.

eh? We protested and got him out of the club. He took over the club and left as a result. Not tricky.

Why go on about it when you know how different our scenarios are. You think your clever, but let's face it you ain't. Your just trying to stir up anything for attention as usual.

nothing to do with being clever. Its to do with seeing things for what they are. It seems most put results before the club.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

By the fans only going in blue its a 100% of our match protest. The rest of the time the fans should be supporting the team because at the end of the day they are still Cardiff.

wearing blue isnt really a protest is it. If it were the intention of a protest then it would be more than just wearing your away colours - yet it is seen as "enough". Which again is my point.

Its easy for you as an outsider to tell us what we should and shouldnt be doing but the truth is no one should listen to you because as a jack its got nothing to do with you. We showed Tony Petty what for blah blah blah, your like a stuck record.

it makes no difference who i support. The fact im not emotionally connected to the club is why my views are far more balanced and clear than the average poster - which again is why im right a scarily amount of times.

Id say the best thing for Cardiff is the opposite of what your saying, we should only wear blue and support our players & get the scarves out at 19:27. The better the team do the more publicity we get, being in the premier league the publicity generated is global. Getting publicity like that increases our chances of a potential buyer.

rubbish. The team on the pitch are irrelevant. If your goal is to get a buyer then i despair, look at your last two buyers.

Your aim should be stamping your authority as custodians of the club and not sitting back for 89 minutes and cheering the superficial red creation.

Sick of you and your jumped up opinion thinking you know whats best for Cardiff. The Cardiff fans will work out whats best for Cardiff City FC.

you can be sick of anything you like, however it has been left to you guys and you now play in red with a divided fanbase and £150m in debt. You arent doing the greatest job of working out what is right in front of your eyes, over 2 years and all we have is 60 seconds per game of pretty photo opportunity rubbish.

Wearing blue is a protest, stop your rubbish now. Tan turned our team red the stadium is full of fans in blue. Its as clear a message to Tan as possible that we dont want the red, therefore its a protest.

The stadium was blue before the change, its still blue now.

Its not a protest. If it was an active pre meditated protest over the anger in changing to red then the 27,000 protesters would surely be forthcoming in voicing their concerns vigorously. Why is all we have got is a 60 second scarf raising session?

Hardly incensed passion is it.

The stadium was blue before the change, its still blue now.

Its not a protest. If it was an active pre meditated protest over the anger in changing to red then the 27,000 protesters would surely be forthcoming in voicing their concerns vigorously. Why is all we have got is a 60 second scarf raising session?

Hardly incensed passion is it.

Great input

What's all this return to blue nonsesne?

Vincent Tan is our leader!!

He's not a part time clown like Sam and Ridder were - he's a full on pro!! Red all the way - its in our DNA! There was a Dragon on the 1927 shirt don't you know? And its the national Symbol of Wales!! Look, Even the Jacks are trying to get in on it:

http://www.swansdirect.com/store/product/9158/%27Robbie-James%27-Centenary-Jersey/

I love Vincent Tan - he's a legend...he saved our club don't you know?! Without him, as many wise heads and long time fans said: "out club would not exist today". He gave us our premier league dream too - and what a fantastic, glorious season it was too!!!

I only wish his vision could be completed and he can rename us Cardiff Dragons and rename the CCS the Visit Malasyia Arena - only then will we truly appreciate him and his "dream" for little Kuala Lumpur....err I mean Cardiff

Worry about your own club and we will worry about ours

Nothing to worry about regarding my team. If there is something then I shall no doubt.

You are my hometown club however and will always have an interest, not to mention a viewpoint from a much clearer position than the majority on here.

Agree with some of what your saying, shows how soft alot of our fans are. Too worried about glory and winning games for a temporary fix its pathetic.

But... Not half as pathetic as wearing a Swansea Jersey and calling yourself a jack when your from Cardiff, that it disgusting. Might as well be a brit and fight for the Nazis.

Im not FROM cardiff, just lived there most of my adult life.

But glad you agree.

Loads of threads recently on the fight to return to blue. And it normally ends up in lots of people saying "turn up and support the team" as if that will solve everything.

Is it the "team" that you support or the "club"? They are two completely different entities. The answer is probably both, and rightly so, but which one is fundamental and of paramount importance?

It is the CLUB that needs fighting for - not the team. The team are an irrelevance when it comes to the main issue, teams will come and go and change every year as they always have done. The club needs the attention and if that neglects the team then so what? Most of that side probably wont be Cardiff players in 2 years time anyway.

Its the mantra we took on when ousting Petty. I find it funny people saying "will we ramp up the protest ir will it die down?" - the protest die down?! Its for 60 seconds per match for gods sake.

The team took a backseat while we fought for the club. We barely watched the game, 105 minute non stop chanting, even through half time. The club was our sole and only focus. Far too many people wanting to have their cake an eat it. Participate into the token 60 second scarf raising so everyone can take a pretty photo to prove they are doing something.... Then 99% of the day supporting tans creation in the hope his crippling cash loans that are killing the club can take you on yet another unsustainable debt riddled glory season in the prem.

It seems the club is fought for less than 1% of your match day time (barring the odd fleeting chant), the rest is dedicated to the mercenaries on the pitch. I think that is madness.

Excellent post. I just want to get my club back, whatever the level. Unfortunately, the glory hunting morons will always abuse you without being able to debate any of your points, simly because you're a jack.

roathie is 100% bang on !!! its about time our passionless plastics stood up to dictator tan and make him feel so unwelcome and intimitdated that he either returns us to blue or f**ks off completley

Worry about your own club and we will worry about ours

Nothing to worry about regarding my team. If there is something then I shall no doubt.

You are my hometown club however and will always have an interest, not to mention a viewpoint from a much clearer position than the majority on here.

sorry for my ignorance, but are you from cardiff?????