VIDEO How bad it really was in the 70's & 80's

How bad it really was in the 70's & 80's
You cant even compare the last 20 years to the 70's and 80's.
how the police can call a scuffle or a swear word hooliganism nowadays, beggars belief

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0wlQhOxNc

I agree you cant even compare those days to now, times have changed drastically. It really is a family sport now.

In those days you ended up hearing or seeing real trouble on a weekly basics, whether you liked it or not.
It was serious disorder in them days like that video shows.
Today in my opinion real hooliganism is dead and most of us have totally moved on

I agree you cant even compare those days to now, times have changed drastically. It really is a family sport now.

In those days you ended up haring or seeing real trouble on a weekly basics, whether you liked it or not.
It was serious disorder in them days like that video shows.
Today in my opinion real hooliganism is dead and most of us have totally moved on

Truth be told it was killing the sport.

And Murdoch finished it off......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKoYjOGOzXQ

quite a few clips from the 90s on that film including the jacks in reading

I agree you cant even compare those days to now, times have changed drastically. It really is a family sport now.

In those days you ended up haring or seeing real trouble on a weekly basics, whether you liked it or not.
It was serious disorder in them days like that video shows.
Today in my opinion real hooliganism is dead and most of us have totally moved on

Truth be told it was killing the sport.

Truth be told it killed the sport for 30 years, but it happened and its what we grew up in the 70's and many got involved including myself, but thankfully its now in the past.

I went to many games during the 70's which I think were the worst, and also throughout the 80s which were still crazy. The police especially in the 70s had little or no control. The worst game for trouble was Cardiff v Man Utd in 74. The violence started at around 8 - 8.30 around central station and went off the whole day and also in the ground. In those day quite a few travelled Friday nights on the train arriving in situ for breakfast, it was common that way fans arrived Friday nights and slept rough without accommodation. The Cardiff /United game was mental. it was estimated that Utd brought 10,000 and virtually filled the old Bob bank. In those days, many clubs had hundreds of thugs and they used to wait outside the stations for the away fans coming in. Often at way games there was no police escorts, trust me if you made it back to the station without something going off you were lucky.

I went to many games during the 70's which I think were the worst, and also throughout the 80s which were still crazy. The police especially in the 70s had little or no control. The worst game for trouble was Cardiff v Man Utd in 74. The violence started at around 8 - 8.30 around central station and went off the whole day and also in the ground. In those day quite a few travelled Friday nights on the train arriving in situ for breakfast, it was common that way fans arrived Friday nights and slept rough without accommodation. The Cardiff /United game was mental. it was estimated that Utd brought 10,000 and virtually filled the old Bob bank. In those days, many clubs had hundreds of thugs and they used to wait outside the stations for the away fans coming in. Often at way games there was no police escorts, trust me if you made it back to the station without something going off you were lucky.

It really was out of control and I was only 10yrs old watching the United game with my Grandfather, there was fighting every where u looked.

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

It was Jan 75, i remember being told about this match by a friend years ago. He came back looking like a Panda bear!

Last edited by RICK+CCFC on Thu May 22, 2014 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I went to many games during the 70's which I think were the worst, and also throughout the 80s which were still crazy. The police especially in the 70s had little or no control. The worst game for trouble was Cardiff v Man Utd in 74. The violence started at around 8 - 8.30 around central station and went off the whole day and also in the ground. In those day quite a few travelled Friday nights on the train arriving in situ for breakfast, it was common that way fans arrived Friday nights and slept rough without accommodation. The Cardiff /United game was mental. it was estimated that Utd brought 10,000 and virtually filled the old Bob bank. In those days, many clubs had hundreds of thugs and they used to wait outside the stations for the away fans coming in. Often at way games there was no police escorts, trust me if you made it back to the station without something going off you were lucky.

It really was out of control and I was only 10yrs old watching the United game with my Grandfather, there was fighting every where u looked.

I got hit with a coin, it hit me right on the top of my crown ( bloody stung) I can tell you. I was in the packed Grange end

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

It was Jan 75, i remember being told about this match by a friend years ago. He came back looking like a Panda bear!

I had one mate who got a kicking outside the station in the running battles. My other mate got arrested on the pitch during the pitch invasion - he went to court the following day and got a fine Quite a few cardiff were arrested though.

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

we wernt organised,the police wernt, and the only thing organised about leeds is they knew the area.....and there were millions of them..........was a bit like the film zulu,only the zulus won.........

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

we wernt organised,the police wernt, and the only thing organised about leeds is they knew the area.....and there were millions of them..........was a bit like the film zulu,only the zulus won.........

The police were separating us into small groups with their horses and letting Leeds attack us. It's only when everybody was back at the station did we get any parity

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

we wernt organised,the police wernt, and the only thing organised about leeds is they knew the area.....and there were millions of them..........was a bit like the film zulu,only the zulus won.........

I can see now why you couldn't understand why I thought the police presence at the Chelsea game was over the top!!! Glad I'm not old enough to remember those times

It was a different world in the 70s. It could be quite dangerous, not handbags, but boots and even knives. I always stayed out of the way, but that was not always easy, especially away. Remember going to the (old) Den, by myself, not long after moving to Cardiff in 1976. The tube journey from Whitechapel to New Cross Gate was the longest journey of my life. Really dodgy walk from there to Cold Blow Lane. No real segregation in the ground. OB nowhere to be seen! Probably got away with it because I was on my own.

Bristol was ok, and Swansea a doddle, because there were always plenty of us. Generally speaking, though, far fewer travelled away in the 70s.

Tudor Street could be quite lively, too!

Some games I was worrying about for days before, especially away in London. Fans from all different clubs seemed to turn up everywhere! No false bravado from me, I'm afraid.

That was then. Much better now. Better organised, travel with ccsc. No fear anymore.

I will say it, if no one else will.

I f*cking loved those days, wild but f*cking great. Could always rely on your mates in those days.

Lived for the weekends!!!

Not the same these days, ok we move on and the violence was mindless but, the passion seems to have disappeared with the trouble. It seems as if the trouble and the passion went hand in hand..

It was a different world in the 70s. It could be quite dangerous, not handbags, but boots and even knives. I always stayed out of the way, but that was not always easy, especially away. Remember going to the (old) Den, by myself, not long after moving to Cardiff in 1976. The tube journey from Whitechapel to New Cross Gate was the longest journey of my life. Really dodgy walk from there to Cold Blow Lane. No real segregation in the ground. OB nowhere to be seen! Probably got away with it because I was on my own.

Bristol was ok, and Swansea a doddle, because there were always plenty of us. Generally speaking, though, far fewer travelled away in the 70s.

Tudor Street could be quite lively, too!

Some games I was worrying about for days before, especially away in London. Fans from all different clubs seemed to turn up everywhere! No false bravado from me, I'm afraid.

That was then. Much better now. Better organised, travel with ccsc. No fear anymore.

one of the worst away games for me was stourbridge away in the welsh cup final first leg. the whole of the midlands turned out for us.

i remember being in the grange end for the man utd game in 74 total mayhem snooker balls being thrown as a 14 yr old boy it was really scary

One of the biggest problems was city's reputation. It brought them like flies. If we played anywhere near London you could guarantee there was always a few hundred Chelsea there looking for it. Wasn't just at the matches either....it kicked off a lot at motorway services, usually on the way home. I was lucky, if I sensed an atmosphere in the ground or in the street/pub I just got out of there. It really was nasty at times. How I never got a good kicking I will never understand.

I did loads off aways in the seventies and and leeds was def the worst away game ever for me they battered us went to loads of games by transit some games like Portsmouth on certain years we would only take 200 went to vllla twice and we only took a few there , one end of season game west brom came at us from everywhere across the pitch from the sides and had loads in the street .when we went on millwalls end we were supposed to be only the second club to ever go on there after forest .the seaside games were great brighton blackpool ,and torquay loved every min of it

The 70s and 80s and some of the 90s were brilliant times to go to watch away games with Cardiff, brilliant days out with great mates for life

I did loads off aways in the seventies and and leeds was def the worst away game ever for me they battered us went to loads of games by transit some games like Portsmouth on certain years we would only take 200 went to vllla twice and we only took a few there , one end of season game west brom came at us from everywhere across the pitch from the sides and had loads in the street .when we went on millwalls end we were supposed to be only the second club to ever go on there after forest .the seaside games were great brighton blackpool ,and torquay loved every min of it

on the Kop for the Wales v Scotland game was mental too..........no police or segregation....Millwall when we won 2 0..and were actually battered all the way down the steps at the back ,over the fence and into the car park,and Millwall came out after us.....with about a third of the game left.........

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

we wernt organised,the police wernt, and the only thing organised about leeds is they knew the area.....and there were millions of them..........was a bit like the film zulu,only the zulus won.........

I can see now why you couldn't understand why I thought the police presence at the Chelsea game was over the top!!! Glad I'm not old enough to remember those times

its very difficult to explain how it was..how it felt......and if truth be told i have no idea what got into us...i think the series life on mars captures some of it perfectly, looking back it does seem more than a different era..........more different planet...people will say it was a small minority, and its only a very insignificant part of the clubs history.....but if you,you tube ,stoke away.......or cardiff ,millwall 1st game of season youll get an idea of how many were of the same mind......
this year the Chelsea rumour has done the circuit all year.....in fact ive been asked by other clubs fans since,did it go off, the police had obviously heard the rumours too.....and an end of season pitch invasion by youngsters one end,could have been seen at the other end a provocative...i was quite shocked at your,and others reactions...but some of us oldies have shared the terraces with the dogs, and had bites..lol

I went to the Leeds away game as well 75/76 in the FA cup. I think we took around 3- 4000 fans, there with 2 special trains.
I arrived on the first train and as we went outside - hundreds of leeds were waiting for us. It kicked off straight way with running battles, we had the better of that confrontation. Also there was a mini pitch invasion in the ground, with fifty or so Leeds and Cardiff scrapping around the goal posts at half time. After the game, many Cardiff fans got picked off going back to the station, as many got split up. In those days Cardiff were not organised at all.

we wernt organised,the police wernt, and the only thing organised about leeds is they knew the area.....and there were millions of them..........was a bit like the film zulu,only the zulus won.........

The police were separating us into small groups with their horses and letting Leeds attack us. It's only when everybody was back at the station did we get any parity

That's why cardif waited thirty years to get there own back when we drew them in that famous fa cup win a few years ago .there were faces there that day who I hadn't seen in years they were out for one thing to get there own back on Leeds and they did

What stuck out for me in those was everybody seemed bigger than us I don't whether it was my age at the time more so in London a fourteen year old up there looked like he was twenty five year old they always looked older than what they where

it was why my father stopped going in the 70s, and me with him - not a Cardiff issue, but we only supported the City so...

in a different life I have experienced the togetherness some here have mentioned - it is priceless.

In a different way, obviously, to this thread but still that sense of communal, priceless togetherness - us as one, supporting the team we love, playing in our colours, playing for us and with us.



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Had some great laughs and some scary moments in the seventies. Got cornered by a load of Millwall at a railway station in 75 and one of them put a butchers knife to my throat, only the actions of a bigger older Millwall lad saved me when he pulled the knife man away. Got battered at Stoke in 77 and was bed ridden for a week as I couldn't walk. In the 75/76 promotion year we took the piss almost every where we went taking other mobs ends. Leeds away 75 was nasty and Leeds home in 72 was mental. Everton and spurs in the cup, man utd, villa and Brum in 70, the list is endless

It seems almost surreal now looking back.
Of course it was all in the Grange End & not the Bob Bank in those days. You'd have several hundred fans surge over from the Bob Bank trying to 'take' the Grange End from us, it would all kick off & then calm down with the opposition running back. The chanting & baiting then continued before all the City fans then ran over to the Bob Bank to start it up all over again.
Looking back there hardly seemed to be a copper in sight!