" A QUESTION REGARDING THE SETTLEMENT ? "

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On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Maybe they are thinking of the club, has Malky paid money back to the cub to stop any action

My guess is Milky and Moody were allowed their dignity in return for an apology (pretty generous of Tan) and that's all they were allowed. No compensation and having to pay their own legal fees together with Radio Wales confirming both have received not one penny can only indicate one thing. Tan must have had some damning evidence on both and chose not to expose it so that the club can start the new season afresh and move on from this whole sordid affair. Could it not be that Tan has got the clubs best interests at heart and is willing to draw a line under it all?

Maybe Tan didnt want the club dragged through the mud. Especially if he wants to sell.

Spot on. Its my understanding Carl that Tan's lawyers gave Malky's lawyers damning evidence at which point he decided to settle for nothing and to apologise and go on his merry way. That's what I take from it anyway and of course that's speculation.

carl maybe its just a case of damage limitation for both parties? tbh would tan or malky want this to go all the way, what on earth would a court case do to both parties? dont forget malkies reputation is already soiled regarding transfers, anymore revelations could be end for malky in football, as for tan he doesnt want lose anymore face than he has already!
this way both move forward with reputations just about intact.

Like previously stated, maybe tan was going to take it further, but malky offered to pay money back to the club and tan excepted... With a public apology thrown in. Whatever though, it does look like tan had him and moody by the balls

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The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?
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Because Carl you have to be 200% right to win this sort of thing. You know the saying "without a shadow of a doubt". As Tan has the money my opinion was he did not have enough percentage.

The dominating words are "Settlement Agreement". This will come with a confidentiality clause. That is neither party are to say anything. I don't know where you are getting the zero payment figure from but it wont be from those who know exactly what this Settlement Agreement is.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

As i said in another thread you you can know someone is guilty maybe have evidence but that don't mean you have enough to win in court.. You then settle it in other ways. I have witnessed similar situations in the workplace over the years

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The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

Because Carl you have to be 200% right to win this sort of thing. You know the saying "without a shadow of a doubt". As Tan has the money my opinion was he did not have enough percentage.

The dominating words are "Settlement Agreement". This will come with a confidentiality clause. That is neither party are to say anything. I don't know where you are getting the zero payment figure from but it wont be from those who know exactly what this Settlement Agreement is.

Spot on Ian.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

Annis why does it bother you and carl so much? Is it really a massive issue? just wondering

The only people who know the details of the Settlement will be Tan and his legal team, Malky and his legal team and an independant solicitor who signs off the SA.

The only people who know the details of the Settlement will be Tan and his legal team, Malky and his legal team and an independant solicitor who signs off the SA.

On that we 100% agree on Craig

The only people who know the details of the Settlement will be Tan and his legal team, Malky and his legal team and an independant solicitor who signs off the SA.

On that we 100% agree on Craig

I agree with that to

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

I am really impressed/worried about the power Tan has to get his own way. I am struggling to think how but I am wondering whether his next move is to do something that will make all us fans against the rebrand apologise in a similar way.

It's all bullshit, Malkey has had his contract mostly paid up the mail is way off the mark, part of the settlement (Money), is that malkey makes a public appology if not the there is no settlement, makes VT look good and Malkey has done something wrong, which is also bullshit

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

Another job or not this will always leave doubt in peoples minds about Malky and that's a fact

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

Gary, I said that tonight to Carl on the ph

Its a tough one.

I dont buy that regarding another job as it wouldnt effect anything and it didnt stop Moody.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

Another job or not this will always leave doubt in peoples minds about Malky and that's a fact

Another job....to me that apology would have screwed that up.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

Another job or not this will always leave doubt in peoples minds about Malky and that's a fact

Another job....to me that apology would have screwed that up.

I did say or not, I think it might be hard to find another after that statement

It's all bullshit, Malkey has had his contract mostly paid up the mail is way off the mark, part of the settlement (Money), is that malkey makes a public appology if not the there is no settlement, makes VT look good and Malkey has done something wrong, which is also bullshit

Do you know this for a fact

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141315

On reading the statement released by Malky, his apology to Vincent Tan and what the Daily Mail are reporting and what I have been told this evening that Malky did not receive a penny of his contract entitlement or a penny for damages it doesn't look very good for Malky Mackay at all.

Malky believed he had such a strong case he took his case forward but has backed down massively and it sways very much in the favour of Vincent Tan, no matter which way anyone dresses it up it looks much better for Tan than it does for Mackay.

Ok, so Malky can now move forward and get on with his career in football, so it seems.

Then there is the Moody statement, this man is in employment and his grovelling apology stopped just short of wanting Tan's babies.

The accusation has been said on here by different people that Malky and Moody allegedly got involved in financial irregularities or were on the take and if that is indeed the case then why would Tan not take it all the way and finish Mackay and Moody off?

I just don't get it if I am honest, I can see that if they were/are guilty why they would want it 'settled' but why would Tan not take them to the cleaners?

I am trying to get my head around it but can't see why certain actions have not been taken if it is as bad as people claim.

Clearing the decks of any issues prior to selling the club. Maybe

Hmm


Interesting Gary, my head is banging like Carls on this massive issue, I'm gutted if Malky is guilty?

On the other side of the coin Annis is that MM needed it settled because he has another job lined up.

No lawyer worth their salt would leave his client offer up an apology without reason. Settlement means different things to both parties. It could be the amounts finally agreed and different to the original claim and so forth. What has surprised me is the fact that Moody came to the forefront as well. Was it joint and several or just convenience. The statement made by both was certainly gut wrenching to some one like Malky, what price dignity and there lies the answer. Either mal practice by both moody and Malky occured, neglegence of sort perhaps, or they were both prepared to sell their dignity for a price. My belief is they had no choice other than to offer up the unreserved apology. Either way they were second best. As for Tan l have said in several threads l think he will start plotting his farewell party. I also think he will leave in a dignified fashion unlike some owners have left other clubs. Like him or loath him he did put his money in, up until the Malkygate l think his intentions were to stay for the long haul and change debt to equity,wont happen now l fear.

Rumours of malky "milky" skimming off players transfers and sponsorship deals etc. Man leached all he could from the club allegedly and this has shown tan ti be in the right.

When people were singing don't sack makay your gonna have a riot etc deluded

Certainly raised more questions than answers.

There is no denying Tan has come out of this looking far better than Malky.

Not even Annis is defending Malky with any conviction hmmm

Surely moody wouldn't of got another job so quick if he was involved in any wrong doing.

Maybe Tan hasn't taken it any further because it could have further implications for the club.

Maybe what malky has done is not illegal just not what a manager should be doing.

Either way malky apology has made him look even more pathetic than when he was trying to say Cornelius was a good good singing last month.