Liberty Stadium expansion

Looks like in a few years we can finally put this one to bed. I still fully expect you lot to draw bigger crowds but it'll be closer than most on here would like to believe.

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk ... story.html

Cheers for the January article, none of us have seen this before. Regarding the expansion I'll believe it when I see the footings going down, which will be never.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

Who gives a f**k what Swansea do,go and post it on the Swansea forum

Looks like in a few years we can finally put this one to bed. I still fully expect you lot to draw bigger crowds but it'll be closer than most on here would like to believe.

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk ... story.html

The Ospreys won't allow you to extend their council stadium.

I'll believe it when I see it. Where are the extra spectators going to park. Would be most cost to the council than anything

We got planing for .60k but will never do it ,osprays playing in a 3/4 empty stadium can't see it my self

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

the expansion that was happening 3yrs ago but mcDonald got in way! seeing is believing and spew is to tight to spend money if don't need to, just think of the cost compared to ours? got to demolish stands as not pre planned like ours was when we built stadium, you didn't plan anything !

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 7&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

Except you will be playing in a lower division.

When will the expansion be finished? In time for the start of the Championship season? Or will it be like Wolves and ready for when you go down to League One? It is quite possible that you'll be going down again next season, after all.

Swansea plan a 5k expansion and that's sensible.

Cardiff of the same (and actually do it) and it's silly.

Oh the hypocrisy.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

Except you will be playing in a lower division.

When will the expansion be finished? In time for the start of the Championship season? Or will it be like Wolves and ready for when you go down to League One? It is quite possible that you'll be going down again next season, after all.

It will be finished for the UEFA super cup in August. Fact

Swansea plan a 5k expansion and that's sensible.

Cardiff of the same (and actually do it) and it's silly.

Oh the hypocrisy.

You are one of the thickest people on this forum. Go back and read what I have written and stop putting words in my mouth.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

Except you will be playing in a lower division.

When will the expansion be finished? In time for the start of the Championship season? Or will it be like Wolves and ready for when you go down to League One? It is quite possible that you'll be going down again next season, after all.

It will be finished for the UEFA super cup in August. Fact

Great stuff. So as one of you lot initially said, he would find it funny if we were relegated with a 33k stadium. Looks like it's happening to you. Now who's stupid?

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 7&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

Except you will be playing in a lower division.

When will the expansion be finished? In time for the start of the Championship season? Or will it be like Wolves and ready for when you go down to League One? It is quite possible that you'll be going down again next season, after all.

It will be finished for the UEFA super cup in August. Fact

Great stuff. So as one of you lot initially said, he would find it funny if we were relegated with a 33k stadium. Looks like it's happening to you. Now who's stupid?

Um.. We were getting 20 plus in the championship where as you were getting an average of 13,000 in your promotion season. I think that's the fact he's trying to say.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

What you were saying was nothing to do with the topic of discussion. We weren't well run in 2002. It's now 2014. I implied that we are a sensibly run club, which we are. You were just looking for an argument which wasn't there.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

I would have thought that being in the position we were in and coming out the other side as hugely successfully as we have would put us in exactly the right position to comment.

If you were stuck down a hole and had no idea how to get out wouldn't you want advice from someone who has experience of getting out of the hole?

And the change in administration rules arguably meant that we were more harshly treated than those today as nowadays the taxman does not have to be paid back in full, whereas we had to pay him every penny.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 7&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

What you were saying was nothing to do with the topic of discussion. We weren't well run in 2002. It's now 2014. I implied that we are a sensibly run club, which we are. You were just looking for an argument which wasn't there.

It is 2014 but history doesn't lie. I'm not looking for an argument, just think it's a bit hypocritical to tell others how to run a football club when your history wasn't always rosey. You weren't always sensibly run that's the point I'm making.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

So the first expansion will be 5k, just like ours then?

Guess that makes Swansea just as sensible as a Cardiff....

Except you will be playing in a lower division.

When will the expansion be finished? In time for the start of the Championship season? Or will it be like Wolves and ready for when you go down to League One? It is quite possible that you'll be going down again next season, after all.

It will be finished for the UEFA super cup in August. Fact

Great stuff. So as one of you lot initially said, he would find it funny if we were relegated with a 33k stadium. Looks like it's happening to you. Now who's stupid?

Um.. We were getting 20 plus in the championship where as you were getting an average of 13,000 in your promotion season. I think that's the fact he's trying to say.

Well situations change. Hopefully we will have made some real Swans fans over the past few years and expanded our fan base. Hence the need for an expansion to our ground. We are filling it every week so we must expand if we want to grow as a club. It's kind of ironic that he's making fun of SCFC for wanting to expand and claiming it to be hilarious if we get relegated with a 33k stadium when that's exactly what is happening to you. If we get relegated, I hope that by that point, we will have a larger stadium with a larger potential fan base. I'm not saying we'll fill the ground if we are in the Championship, you won't either as you don't now, but the aim will be to have a larger attendance than we had the last time we were in that league.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

What you were saying was nothing to do with the topic of discussion. We weren't well run in 2002. It's now 2014. I implied that we are a sensibly run club, which we are. You were just looking for an argument which wasn't there.

It is 2014 but history doesn't lie. I'm not looking for an argument, just think it's a bit hypocritical to tell others how to run a football club when your history wasn't always rosey. You weren't always sensibly run that's the point I'm making.

I wasn't telling you how to run your club. I was simply stating we are well run. I was disproving the guy I quoted as he was mocking us for wanting to expand. This is getting boring now. See my last post.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 7&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

I would have thought that being in the position we were in and coming out the other side as hugely successfully as we have would put us in exactly the right position to comment.

If you were stuck down a hole and had no idea how to get out wouldn't you want advice from someone who has experience of getting out of the hole?

And the change in administration rules arguably meant that we were more harshly treated than those today as nowadays the taxman does not have to be paid back in full, whereas we had to pay him every penny.

Yes but how many years did that take? It was done on terms that were fair for the club which is fair enough. It winds me up however when Cardiff's finances are mocked yet when you were in dire trouble bucket collections were done on quite a few occasions to help you out. Not saying that you wouldn't do that if it ever happened to us, but this well run club malarkey stems from benefits also in no points deductions, something that would have made a big difference in this day and age if it happened.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

the expansion that was happening 3yrs ago but mcDonald got in way! seeing is believing and spew is to tight to spend money if don't need to, just think of the cost compared to ours? got to demolish stands as not pre planned like ours was when we built stadium, you didn't plan anything !

Because it's not theirs it's the Ospreys council stadium, they can borrow it until they fall back down the divisions.....

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

I would have thought that being in the position we were in and coming out the other side as hugely successfully as we have would put us in exactly the right position to comment.

If you were stuck down a hole and had no idea how to get out wouldn't you want advice from someone who has experience of getting out of the hole?

And the change in administration rules arguably meant that we were more harshly treated than those today as nowadays the taxman does not have to be paid back in full, whereas we had to pay him every penny.

Yes but how many years did that take? It was done on terms that were fair for the club which is fair enough. It winds me up however when Cardiff's finances are mocked yet when you were in dire trouble bucket collections were done on quite a few occasions to help you out. Not saying that you wouldn't do that if it ever happened to us, but this well run club malarkey stems from benefits also in no points deductions, something that would have made a big difference in this day and age if it happened.

But look at the difference in debt levels. Cardiff have continued to get deeper and deeper into debt. You can't compare the two.

33,000

It will be hilarious when they eventually go down and go back to 14,000 crowds, if they're stupid enough to extend to that capacity.

It won't happen like that. It will be done in stages. So, the first stage would be up to 25k or 27k for example. If that sells out every week then we would go on to the next stage. You know, like sensible clubs do.

Is this the same club that went into administration twice? Hypocrites.

Sorry, what year are we in again?

Before all the lies come out, yet again, have a read below:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137237&start=30

A CVA is pretty much an administration, transfer embargo, payments to companies owed. If anything I'd say it's worse as it's all on the clubs terms, not the businesses who are owed money. It's irrelevant what year it is, you claim to be this sensible well run club, but that wasn't always the case. You've benefited massively from old rules of no points deductions. This day and age, it could have been a different story.

I didn't say you were incorrect, did I? As you point out in the part in bold, I was correct in what I was saying. We weren't always well run, we are now. End of discussion really.

You are now, but it's a bit hypocritical of yourselves don't you think if you've been in far worse positions than us to tell us how to run a football club. You benefited from old league rules in administration. That's all I'm saying.

I would have thought that being in the position we were in and coming out the other side as hugely successfully as we have would put us in exactly the right position to comment.

If you were stuck down a hole and had no idea how to get out wouldn't you want advice from someone who has experience of getting out of the hole?

And the change in administration rules arguably meant that we were more harshly treated than those today as nowadays the taxman does not have to be paid back in full, whereas we had to pay him every penny.

Yes but how many years did that take? It was done on terms that were fair for the club which is fair enough. It winds me up however when Cardiff's finances are mocked yet when you were in dire trouble bucket collections were done on quite a few occasions to help you out. Not saying that you wouldn't do that if it ever happened to us, but this well run club malarkey stems from benefits also in no points deductions, something that would have made a big difference in this day and age if it happened.

There were no bucket collections at Cardiff for us during or as a result of the Petty era, lets put that to bed right now. In fact, your stadium announcer mocked us when we played the FAW Premier Cup final at Ninian Park.

As for points deductions, it would have made no difference to our our league status as we accumulated enough points to have been clear of relegation even with a points deduction.