Tue May 06, 2014 5:37 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 5:41 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 5:42 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 5:51 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 5:55 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Tue May 06, 2014 5:55 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 6:02 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 6:03 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Brilliant. He's owned up plenty of times and said we're not good enough. Martinez is a moaning little bitch himself so stop wanking off neutral managers because they're not Dave Jones
Tue May 06, 2014 6:04 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:09 pm
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Yet two weeks ago you were willing to give him time. Fickle.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:11 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:15 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Oh would you look at that, the Eggo are following what seems to be the general fan census
f**k off Eggo, fed up of your crap, Ole should stay
Tue May 06, 2014 6:16 pm
Green Arrow wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Yet two weeks ago you were willing to give him time. Fickle.
Two weeks ago he hadn't come out with that utter tripe after the match. Anyone could see we deserved to lose that game except him. He's living in his own world. Things change that triggers people to change their opinion. Its called reassessing the situation. If you stick with the same viewpoint forever and change don't trigger a reaction in you etc. then God help you. You must be dull as frigging dishwater. Also the irony of you calling someone fickle when you're basically Tan's shoe cleaner is hilarious. Do go on...
Tue May 06, 2014 6:17 pm
Green Arrow wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Yet two weeks ago you were willing to give him time. Fickle.
Two weeks ago he hadn't come out with that utter tripe after the match. Anyone could see we deserved to lose that game except him. He's living in his own world. Things change that triggers people to change their opinion. Its called reassessing the situation. If you stick with the same viewpoint forever and change don't trigger a reaction in you etc. then God help you. You must be dull as frigging dishwater. Also the irony of you calling someone fickle when you're basically Tan's shoe cleaner is hilarious. Do go on...
What? I don't even talk about Tan on this board, I stay away from that discussion because it is like beating a dead horse. My opinion is I want Tan out, so how is that being his "shoe cleaner" Do go on attention seeker...
Tue May 06, 2014 6:18 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 6:18 pm
MarbleBlues wrote:Do you really think that is the way to motivate a poor skilled squad in a relegation battle? Telling them they are not good enough in public?
Tue May 06, 2014 6:19 pm
Jinks wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Oh would you look at that, the Eggo are following what seems to be the general fan census
f**k off Eggo, fed up of your crap, Ole should stay
Echo = shitrag that i wouldn't buy for 5p
Tue May 06, 2014 6:20 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:He's owned up to not being good enough plenty of times, Palace and Hull an example. He also said himself he's not been good enough, honest as ever and a realist. Fickle as f**k you
Tue May 06, 2014 6:24 pm
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:So one press conference makes you want a manager out? Most managers tell the players what they think in the dressing room. So why do press conferences matter? Plenty of managers lie to save face and let their true emotions out in the dressing room where it matters.
Of course opinions change but yours FAR too much.
I've already given examples in the past and again, you do it again after ONE press conference.
Despite praising him for his "smooth passing" style at Molde
now you want DJ back who I liked but he failed at getting us over the final hurdle.
What? I don't even talk about Tan on this board, I stay away from that discussion because it is like beating a dead horse.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:27 pm
Green Arrow wrote:MarbleBlues wrote:Do you really think that is the way to motivate a poor skilled squad in a relegation battle? Telling them they are not good enough in public?
These comments were after the Newcastle game when we were already relegated mathematically. I think the battle is pretty much over yet instead he still said 'we didn't deserve to lose' when we did because apart from one spell in the game and a Zaha burst and effort we were completely rubbish. How is that going to effect the players when we're already relegated?
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Tue May 06, 2014 6:27 pm
Green Arrow wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:He's owned up to not being good enough plenty of times, Palace and Hull an example. He also said himself he's not been good enough, honest as ever and a realist. Fickle as f**k you
Not at all. You will find out when we struggle next year. Then lets see who is calling for an experienced Championship manager. He's not good enough and he knows it. After the Newcastle game in which the vast majority of players were utter tripe he said we didn't deserve to lose and they gave their all. Only someone tripping would say such rubbish.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:29 pm
Tue May 06, 2014 6:32 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Newcastle in reality, I heard on SSN that Charlie Nicholas said it wasn't a 3-0 game, defensive lapses in concentration yet again which has been evident under both managers made the scoreline look flattering. We actually matched them for a large part of the game
MarbleBlues wrote:And I agree with him 100%! We did not deserve to loose. We deserved to get level in the game. He has absolutely no reason to go out in public to slate players after that game, and you never will hear him do that. Sit down with players and be constructive. I'm sad to be the one to tell you, but motivating players have changed from 1990. I'll listen to some fair pointers of criticism. But the bullshit spout around Cary next to nothing for me.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:34 pm
Green Arrow wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Newcastle in reality, I heard on SSN that Charlie Nicholas said it wasn't a 3-0 game, defensive lapses in concentration yet again which has been evident under both managers made the scoreline look flattering. We actually matched them for a large part of the gameMarbleBlues wrote:And I agree with him 100%! We did not deserve to loose. We deserved to get level in the game. He has absolutely no reason to go out in public to slate players after that game, and you never will hear him do that. Sit down with players and be constructive. I'm sad to be the one to tell you, but motivating players have changed from 1990. I'll listen to some fair pointers of criticism. But the bullshit spout around Cary next to nothing for me.
Wow just wow. We did deserve to lose and we did lose.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:35 pm
Green Arrow wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:So one press conference makes you want a manager out? Most managers tell the players what they think in the dressing room. So why do press conferences matter? Plenty of managers lie to save face and let their true emotions out in the dressing room where it matters.
A combination of things.
1) terrible performances (Inherited a poor squad. So why were you happy to give him time prior to Newcastle?
2) squad rotation constantly which is leaving the team with a lack of understanding (You have a point
3) players looking unmotivated (Only two players have looked motivated this season, Campbell and Marshall
4) Ole chatting crap in interviews(So does Jose, so does Rodgers so has the second coming Martinez. Every manager leaves their thoughts in the dressing room. If they were not obligated to do interviews and conferences they wouldn't because it is a waste of time.
Numerous reasons all together contributing to me wanting him replaced with a PROVEN Championship level manager.Of course opinions change but yours FAR too much.
In your opinion. Your opinion has no more value than Terry Venables or Tom Jones so whats your point?
Why bother replying then? You think you're some god on this forum, you really aren't.I've already given examples in the past and again, you do it again after ONE press conference.
No. See above. Its a combination of things yet you dont possess the intellectual capacity to comprehend such.
So why were you so willing to give him time? Why not so critical before Newcastle?Despite praising him for his "smooth passing" style at Molde
...and it was but have we seen it executed here well? No. Its a completely different level. Ole is the managerial Cornelius. You'll find out in due course.
Well no but you said and I will quote:
Its partly the reason why Im willing to give Solskjaer time to bring his players in, in the summer and build his team playing the smooth passing game that Molde FK played. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes time, but its amazing when it pays off.
Of course we weren't going to see it straight away but you said to give him time to implement it now moan that he hasn't? How does that even make sense?now you want DJ back who I liked but he failed at getting us over the final hurdle.
Numerous reasons for that like a lack of funds due to financial issues that were no fault of his own.
He was stubborn and stuck to 4-4-2 all the time. He had no plan B and was poor at getting us back into games. If he tried something different then maybe we might have done it.What? I don't even talk about Tan on this board, I stay away from that discussion because it is like beating a dead horse.
Yet you felt more than compelled to stick your nose in here. How funny.
Because it is an open forum. I will comment on what I like. One thing I won't do is lie about other posters to prove a point. Back up your shoe cleaner remark then you'll have some credibility. But oh no, you will just make false accusations
Tue May 06, 2014 6:40 pm
Green Arrow wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Newcastle in reality, I heard on SSN that Charlie Nicholas said it wasn't a 3-0 game, defensive lapses in concentration yet again which has been evident under both managers made the scoreline look flattering. We actually matched them for a large part of the gameMarbleBlues wrote:And I agree with him 100%! We did not deserve to loose. We deserved to get level in the game. He has absolutely no reason to go out in public to slate players after that game, and you never will hear him do that. Sit down with players and be constructive. I'm sad to be the one to tell you, but motivating players have changed from 1990. I'll listen to some fair pointers of criticism. But the bullshit spout around Cary next to nothing for me.
Wow just wow. We did deserve to lose and we did lose.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:43 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Green Arrow wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:We didn't deserve to lose against Newcastle in reality, I heard on SSN that Charlie Nicholas said it wasn't a 3-0 game, defensive lapses in concentration yet again which has been evident under both managers made the scoreline look flattering. We actually matched them for a large part of the gameMarbleBlues wrote:And I agree with him 100%! We did not deserve to loose. We deserved to get level in the game. He has absolutely no reason to go out in public to slate players after that game, and you never will hear him do that. Sit down with players and be constructive. I'm sad to be the one to tell you, but motivating players have changed from 1990. I'll listen to some fair pointers of criticism. But the bullshit spout around Cary next to nothing for me.
Wow just wow. We did deserve to lose and we did lose.
We lost due to defensive lapse of concentration and incapability to put away the easiest of chances
Tue May 06, 2014 6:47 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Excellent article . 100% spot on.
Tue May 06, 2014 6:47 pm
2) squad rotation constantly which is leaving the team with a lack of understanding (You have a point
3) players looking unmotivated (Only two players have looked motivated this season, Campbell and Marshall
4) Ole chatting crap in interviews(So does Jose, so does Rodgers so has the second coming Martinez. Every manager leaves their thoughts in the dressing room. If they were not obligated to do interviews and conferences they wouldn't because it is a waste of time.
Why bother replying then? You think you're some god on this forum, you really aren't.
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No I dont. This is hilarious though that you've stated this after crying for calling you a shoe cleaner earlier on. Hypocrisy alert.So why were you so willing to give him time? Why not so critical before Newcastle?
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See above.Well no but you said and I will quote:
Its partly the reason why Im willing to give Solskjaer time to bring his players in, in the summer and build his team playing the smooth passing game that Molde FK played. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes time, but its amazing when it pays off.
Of course we weren't going to see it straight away but you said to give him time to implement it now moan that he hasn't? How does that even make sense?
Absolute dire in a very important game. If Ole cant get the team pumped up for that what can he get them pumped up for? It was an important game to survive yet we just went down with a whimper. Even the media have said as much. It was embarrassing.He was stubborn and stuck to 4-4-2 all the time. He had no plan B and was poor at getting us back into games. If he tried something different then maybe we might have done it.
Ferguson stuck to a 442 too and rarely changed things up. Of course Jones aint Ferguson but your tactical argument is nonsense. Ole has tried several formations and we've still been beat. Whats the issue?Because it is an open forum. I will comment on what I like. One thing I won't do is lie about other posters to prove a point. Back up your shoe cleaner remark then you'll have some credibility. But oh no, you will just make false accusations
Tue May 06, 2014 6:50 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Green Arrow wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Agree with all plus there's more points too like him chatting complete nonsense in interviews like 'we didn't deserve to lose'. At least have some decency like Martinez and say 'we weren't good enough' and then give the lads an absolute lashing in the dressing room.
I just dont think a lot of the players respect him. He looks like a boy or the type of school teacher you'd mug off.
Yet two weeks ago you were willing to give him time. Fickle.
Two weeks ago he hadn't come out with that utter tripe after the match. Anyone could see we deserved to lose that game except him. He's living in his own world. Things change that triggers people to change their opinion. Its called reassessing the situation. If you stick with the same viewpoint forever and change don't trigger a reaction in you etc. then God help you. You must be dull as frigging dishwater. Also the irony of you calling someone fickle when you're basically Tan's shoe cleaner is hilarious. Do go on...
He's owned up to not being good enough plenty of times, Palace and Hull an example. He also said himself he's not been good enough, honest as ever and a realist. Fickle as f**k you