WOULD MALKY HAVE KEPT US UP? THIS STAT PROVES IT

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

that stat means absolutely nothing.

I genuinely think if we had a stable club without our owner and the fans properly got behind the team and Mackay was given full support, we would be where Palace and Hull are.

Hiring Solksjaer was a risk and it has failed.

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

that stat means absolutely nothing.

That stat is a FACT, it proves how well each manager is/was performing. Of course there will always be supporters who choose to discard the facts and prefer their blind beliefs

I genuinely think if we had a stable club without our owner and the fans properly got behind the team and Mackay was given full support, we would be where Palace and Hull are.

Hiring Solksjaer was a risk and it has failed.

We would all love to believe that we as supporters had a part to play, however, it was plain to see from our promotion season that the football was boring and predictable, we struggled to score goals and beat poor teams and our defence was functional, in that division, but nothing special, which was ever more evident in the Premiership. The issues were not addressed by Malky and certainly not by OGS either.

That's a projection and a prediction rather than fact. Malky didn't have a real brand of football an we were sussed early on. Not to mention that other teams around us started picking up points and may have done so if Malky was still here anyway

We were starting to get found out big time towards the end of malky's reign. Probably had a lot to do with all the off field crap, but we were deffo on a downward spiral. Tbf, I think even Jose mourinho would have struggled to keep us up with the squad we have. We've actually gone backwards from last season lol I can't work it out

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

38 games in a season which would have meant 35.88 which could be rounded up to 36 or down to 35.

Having said that I don't think Malky would have kept us up. We had been found out.

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

that stat means absolutely nothing.

That stat is a FACT, it proves how well each manager is/was performing. Of course there will always be supporters who choose to discard the facts and prefer their blind beliefs

it proves what he Had done, not what he was going to do

Eh????

Firstly, it doesnt PROVE anything.

Arsenal would win the league if we base final table on ratio after 18 games.

Secondly Malkys ratio got progressively worse as the campaign went on.

Finally, there are 2 games left and Sunderland and Villa have got every chance of getting to 36 points so would go down even with this hyperthetical 35.simfin Malky would have ammased

That's a projection and a prediction rather than fact. Malky didn't have a real brand of football an we were sussed early on. Not to mention that other teams around us started picking up points and may have done so if Malky was still here anyway

Malky did have a brand of football, he set us up hard to beat. Might not like or enjoy it but that was his brand. Genuine question, what is Ole's brand ? We've all heard that it's attacking, expansive football but we've yet to see it.

That's a projection and a prediction rather than fact. Malky didn't have a real brand of football an we were sussed early on. Not to mention that other teams around us started picking up points and may have done so if Malky was still here anyway

Malky did have a brand of football, he set us up hard to beat. Might not like or enjoy it but that was his brand. Genuine question, what is Ole's brand ? We've all heard that it's attacking, expansive football but we've yet to see it.

Free flowing concede, concede, concede.

Dont mean a thing

Dont mean a thing

Maybe it 'doesn't mean a thing.

Your opinion that Mackay sent us down is a personal opinion, which is based on nothing.

That's a projection and a prediction rather than fact. Malky didn't have a real brand of football an we were sussed early on. Not to mention that other teams around us started picking up points and may have done so if Malky was still here anyway

Malky did have a brand of football, he set us up hard to beat. Might not like or enjoy it but that was his brand. Genuine question, what is Ole's brand ? We've all heard that it's attacking, expansive football but we've yet to see it.

4-4-2 diamond with attacking fullbacks. Not the type of formation for our squad i think he found.

You can't look at stats there pointless.

Look at norwich they weren't doing bad at the start of the season. Now there fucked.

We will never know if he would of kept us up its just guessing.

Don't think that either Malky or Ole are Premiership managers. Malky's tactics too negative and predictable and Ole too cavalier. Neither have had an acceptable plan B. Neither have made particularly good signings.

We definitely wouldn't have lost 3-0 to Swansea, 4-0 to Hull 3-0 to f*cking Palace and 4-0 to Sunderland

Hull when they went up with Phil Brown, first half season top six, 2nd half of season 20th, teams often do better at the start than the end it all depends on how they adapt and the fixtures, and of course squad injuries and fitness.......

We will never know what would have happened, if the referees hadn't made as many mistakes, we would have stayed up....

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Dont mean a thing

Maybe it 'doesn't mean a thing.

Your opinion that Mackay sent us down is a personal opinion, which is based on nothing.

it is probably based on the fact malky blew our transfer budget on overpriced players and failed to bring in a goalscorer, if tan has a circus as stated on here then malky was certainly the clown

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

That's 18 games under malky and only 16 under ole, so if ole won his last two games ( very unlikely) he would have more wins and points than malky, also arsenal would win the league and crystal palace would be relegated.

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

i quite like stats..........wish MM payed some atension to them......top goal scorer last season Whittingham on 8 should mean ..........WE ARE f*cking DESPERATE FOR A PROVEN GOAL SCORER............find it remarkable that ANYONE doesnt see this.......btw does Pullis rescent record at Palace { 15 points from 6 games.......which would give them...90 over 36..and mean they won the league two weeks ago make them favs for next years title?

You can't really compare them as the vast majority of games we played against low opposition in the first half of the season were away, whereas Solksjaer has played them at home and got battered in nearly all of them.

We were starting to get found out big time towards the end of malky's reign. Probably had a lot to do with all the off field crap, but we were deffo on a downward spiral. Tbf, I think even Jose mourinho would have struggled to keep us up with the squad we have. We've actually gone backwards from last season lol I can't work it out

That should read "we've gone backwards from the middle of last season"

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

You can't really compare them as the vast majority of games we played against low opposition in the first half of the season were away, whereas Solksjaer has played them at home and got battered in nearly all of them.

Alternatively the number of high quality opposition we have played away from home during Ole's reign and home under Malky.

Are people really that thick to endorse this "stat".

Fulham won the first game of the season away at Sunderland. Buy your logic their points average after one game = 3 therefore 3 times 38 = 114 points for the season. Fulham are champions, Jol should never have been sacked. What a clown their owner is.

I genuinely think if we had a stable club without our owner and the fans properly got behind the team and Mackay was given full support, we would be where Palace and Hull are.

Hiring Solksjaer was a risk and it has failed.

this sums up the truth.....to much attention by all given to off field problems...

You can't trust stats like that. Ole has had far more opportunities to collect points at home which he has wasted. So that stat doesn't do justice to how well Malky was doing and how bad Ole has done.