' Can we just lay this to rest, once and for all '

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

Your rite on all accounts....BUT..... he also delivered the most boring football ive ever seen, dave jones would have got us up with not even half of what malky was given and played good football, maybe he would of kept us up or maybe malky would have nobody will know now

"All opinions welcome"?

AT a risk of being very unpopular i dont believe malky would have kept us in the PL and more than ole would. Malky will go down as a legend at the club for what he achieved in a way better hes gone coz we would have destroyed him on social media and in the press and stands if we had been relegated

Is it true Malkys old man was on the payroll as an interpreter ??

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Give the man the credit he deserves Thank you Malky it wax an honour to have you as our manager
Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

MALKY is our Best manager since the 1920's delivered our greatest success since the F A Cup win and people still moan typical

Malky did well in the championship, especially in his first season when on a limited budget he brought in some good players. The following year he had a big budget and big squad with a huge wage bill and I think the minium we expected was promotion, to win the league was a bonus. It was a shame the football was so bad.
The premiership was a whole new ball game though, considering he had the biggest promotion budget ever I think we spent it pretty awfully, having spent a lot of money in the last two seasons and over several transfer windows we still dont have a decent left back, a lot of average right backs or anything that resembles a striker who can score goals.

I honestly struggle to believe that anyone really thinks Malky wasnt way out of his depth at premiership level and that those that do use it as a way to have a dig at Tan, its the only thing I can think of. Again it amazes me that anyone doesnt think we were sinking rapidly under Malky, it was a matter of games before we were in the bottom three with an impossible Jan to come. Our attempt at putting everyone behind the ball and waiting for a set play was so found out very soon, conceeding a lot of goals (second most after Fulham when he went?). No one expected us to go all out attack but I do expect us to try and win games and I think that stopped happening.

Alarm bells were ringing when we went away to Villa who were struggling badly at home and hadnt scored for 7 and a half hours perfect time to have a go at them and we set up ultra defensive with Cowie on the wing and Odemwingy as a lone target man, having any attacking ability like Mutch, Noone, Kim, Campbell, Maynard all on the bench. That was Malkys mentality and in my opinion without a doubt sending us down. We will never know of course but if we could go back now id have sacked him before the season started.

Has Ole done anyt better? Well thats for another thread but however a new manager performed I still believe it was right to replace Malky (although it should have been earlier), we had to at least try and stay up.

Malky will still be a legend for taking us up, but then simply way out of his depth.

I'm sure jones got us to the playoffs and to and a fa cup final on a tiny budget, maybe I'm wrong

I wish we'd put it all to bed, all the arguing in the world ain't gonna change what's happened, and just get on with supporting what's here now.

Malky did well in the championship, especially in his first season when on a limited budget he brought in some good players. The following year he had a big budget and big squad with a huge wage bill and I think the minium we expected was promotion, to win the league was a bonus. It was a shame the football was so bad.
The premiership was a whole new ball game though, considering he had the biggest promotion budget ever I think we spent it pretty awfully, having spent a lot of money in the last two seasons and over several transfer windows we still dont have a decent left back, a lot of average right backs or anything that resembles a striker who can score goals.

I honestly struggle to believe that anyone really thinks Malky wasnt way out of his depth at premiership level and that those that do use it as a way to have a dig at Tan, its the only thing I can think of. Again it amazes me that anyone doesnt think we were sinking rapidly under Malky, it was a matter of games before we were in the bottom three with an impossible Jan to come. Our attempt at putting everyone behind the ball and waiting for a set play was so found out very soon, conceeding a lot of goals (second most after Fulham when he went?). No one expected us to go all out attack but I do expect us to try and win games and I think that stopped happening.

Alarm bells were ringing when we went away to Villa who were struggling badly at home and hadnt scored for 7 and a half hours perfect time to have a go at them and we set up ultra defensive with Cowie on the wing and Odemwingy as a lone target man, having any attacking ability like Mutch, Noone, Kim, Campbell, Maynard all on the bench. That was Malkys mentality and in my opinion without a doubt sending us down. We will never know of course but if we could go back now id have sacked him before the season started.

Has Ole done anyt better? Well thats for another thread but however a new manager performed I still believe it was right to replace Malky (although it should have been earlier), we had to at least try and stay up.

Malky will still be a legend for taking us up, but then simply way out of his depth.

100% agree

I wish we'd put it all to bed, all the arguing in the world ain't gonna change what's happened, and just get on with supporting what's here now.

That's the thing, no one is supporting the now, they are just bashing ole and want him out after just 3 months in charge but malky was given time, why not the same for ole?

I wish we'd put it all to bed, all the arguing in the world ain't gonna change what's happened, and just get on with supporting what's here now.

That's the thing, no one is supporting the now, they are just bashing ole and want him out after just 3 months in charge but malky was given time, why not the same for ole?

had this same discussion last week on twitter ole cant be expected to do any better with this squad than malky would have with dave jones squad

I wish we'd put it all to bed, all the arguing in the world ain't gonna change what's happened, and just get on with supporting what's here now.

That's the thing, no one is supporting the now, they are just bashing ole and want him out after just 3 months in charge but malky was given time, why not the same for ole?

Sadly it is because he is "Tan's man" so he won't be given any time.

if we go down the road of sacking managers after 3 months we will be like blackburn and wolves last season a new man from 1 min to the next wont help at all

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

really hope this is true as it's getting boring now. i don't think we should have sacked jones (or malky) but i'm over it

Malky did well in the championship, especially in his first season when on a limited budget he brought in some good players. The following year he had a big budget and big squad with a huge wage bill and I think the minium we expected was promotion, to win the league was a bonus. It was a shame the football was so bad.
The premiership was a whole new ball game though, considering he had the biggest promotion budget ever I think we spent it pretty awfully, having spent a lot of money in the last two seasons and over several transfer windows we still dont have a decent left back, a lot of average right backs or anything that resembles a striker who can score goals.

I honestly struggle to believe that anyone really thinks Malky wasnt way out of his depth at premiership level and that those that do use it as a way to have a dig at Tan, its the only thing I can think of. Again it amazes me that anyone doesnt think we were sinking rapidly under Malky, it was a matter of games before we were in the bottom three with an impossible Jan to come. Our attempt at putting everyone behind the ball and waiting for a set play was so found out very soon, conceeding a lot of goals (second most after Fulham when he went?). No one expected us to go all out attack but I do expect us to try and win games and I think that stopped happening.

Alarm bells were ringing when we went away to Villa who were struggling badly at home and hadnt scored for 7 and a half hours perfect time to have a go at them and we set up ultra defensive with Cowie on the wing and Odemwingy as a lone target man, having any attacking ability like Mutch, Noone, Kim, Campbell, Maynard all on the bench. That was Malkys mentality and in my opinion without a doubt sending us down. We will never know of course but if we could go back now id have sacked him before the season started.

Has Ole done anyt better? Well thats for another thread but however a new manager performed I still believe it was right to replace Malky (although it should have been earlier), we had to at least try and stay up.

Malky will still be a legend for taking us up, but then simply way out of his depth.

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Totally agree with OP.
If it was bertie blogs posted this I still would agree.

AND ITS NEVER SAY NEVER......WE STILL HAVE HOPE .

Malky did well in the championship, especially in his first season when on a limited budget he brought in some good players. The following year he had a big budget and big squad with a huge wage bill and I think the minium we expected was promotion, to win the league was a bonus. It was a shame the football was so bad.
The premiership was a whole new ball game though, considering he had the biggest promotion budget ever I think we spent it pretty awfully, having spent a lot of money in the last two seasons and over several transfer windows we still dont have a decent left back, a lot of average right backs or anything that resembles a striker who can score goals.

I honestly struggle to believe that anyone really thinks Malky wasnt way out of his depth at premiership level and that those that do use it as a way to have a dig at Tan, its the only thing I can think of. Again it amazes me that anyone doesnt think we were sinking rapidly under Malky, it was a matter of games before we were in the bottom three with an impossible Jan to come. Our attempt at putting everyone behind the ball and waiting for a set play was so found out very soon, conceeding a lot of goals (second most after Fulham when he went?). No one expected us to go all out attack but I do expect us to try and win games and I think that stopped happening.

Alarm bells were ringing when we went away to Villa who were struggling badly at home and hadnt scored for 7 and a half hours perfect time to have a go at them and we set up ultra defensive with Cowie on the wing and Odemwingy as a lone target man, having any attacking ability like Mutch, Noone, Kim, Campbell, Maynard all on the bench. That was Malkys mentality and in my opinion without a doubt sending us down. We will never know of course but if we could go back now id have sacked him before the season started.

Has Ole done anyt better? Well thats for another thread but however a new manager performed I still believe it was right to replace Malky (although it should have been earlier), we had to at least try and stay up.

Malky will still be a legend for taking us up, but then simply way out of his depth.

I agree with everything written above.
As you say a legend for what he achieved but the three stage dossier used by him and moody has been exposed as flawed with Cornelius and brayford in particular.
Our tactics were to start with a point and try to keep it whilst trying to nick something from a set piece.it would be interesting to see a breakdown of our goals scored under Malky this season as I suspect more than half are from set pieces.
People forget that it was only coming to the end of his tenure that he started to introduce noone into the side.
Having seen the summer signings and then the fixtures I always believed come the end of January we would be in the bottom three with our fate being decided in the remaining games.
The real downside for me is that because of the Cornelius transfer in particular that as long as tan is here he won't trust another manager with bringing in new signings without interfering himself which can only have a negative effect on our efforts to bounce back next season.
I think the Cornelius transfer and the negative publicity surrounding it will slightly damage malkys stock with other chairmen who are considering employing him in the future especially as I think there is more mileage in that story yet regarding the fee.
Thanks for everything Malky but you are in a results game and I thought you should have gone after palace away.

I liked Malky but he fucked up big time with a few high profile transfers. Paying £7.5m for an unproved 20 year old and paying him £45k pw was both beyond belief and irresponsible. Brayford too was a strange one....certainly strange enough to question Malky's judgement. These mistakes quite rightly led to his sacking and his sacking has put us in the shit we find ourselves in now. I'm not saying that Ole is the right man, it's too early to judge him as he had an almost impossible task to change the mindset of the squad in the time given. Malky might have had us marginally above the drop zone when he left but with imminent away games at Arsenal, Man City and Man Utd he would have definitely taken us into the bottom three. Whether he had enough about him to get us out of it with his ultra negative tactics is debatable but I guess we'll never know. It's all very well asking that we repect him but he had some major flaws which are difficult to ignore.

two very good posts.............Annis posted after the opening game that Tan was not happy with Malky, this had come from the directors box at west ham { Sam ?}..it might have been the performance,but more likely the signings. common sense says from that point on. we were fucked..........as it became clear just how far off the mark Acorn was, followed by Moody going, with hindsight Malky should have gone there and then,legend or not.........not sure why Tan took so long to pull the trigger..but he hesitated,and that hesitation i think has cost us dearly, the Tan /Malky relationship was over..
still cant get my head around those 6 or so weeks,when everyone knew Malky was going,even Malky knew, the fans kept singing,tan kept hesitating,and Malky was stuck in an impossible situation..
as for the topic being layed to rest.. it will never be. we went up as champions,but for many it was a means to an end,a grind,it was for me,the football was as poor as youll ever see..to others going up playing at all costs football is fine..and the same this year.we were not bottom 3.but looked like thats where we were heading.Ole has failed to stop that happening so it will forever be a topic of debate..
but had we kept Sir Malky......had he kept us up by parking buses and sneaking set piece goals......what next?
a hundred million on 2 full backs a DM and another crap striker?..what ever his achievements at this club,we never witnessed anything in his locker other than backs to the wall and endless work without the football.........id rather go down.....

whats tan got on malky.......the whole acorn deal was very odd......just my opinion

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

Spot on, still think we would have stayed up with MM, still lets back Ole to the end

I'm sure jones got us to the playoffs and to and a fa cup final on a tiny budget, maybe I'm wrong

And fu*ked it all up every time

Malky did well in the championship, especially in his first season when on a limited budget he brought in some good players. The following year he had a big budget and big squad with a huge wage bill and I think the minium we expected was promotion, to win the league was a bonus. It was a shame the football was so bad.
The premiership was a whole new ball game though, considering he had the biggest promotion budget ever I think we spent it pretty awfully, having spent a lot of money in the last two seasons and over several transfer windows we still dont have a decent left back, a lot of average right backs or anything that resembles a striker who can score goals.

I honestly struggle to believe that anyone really thinks Malky wasnt way out of his depth at premiership level and that those that do use it as a way to have a dig at Tan, its the only thing I can think of. Again it amazes me that anyone doesnt think we were sinking rapidly under Malky, it was a matter of games before we were in the bottom three with an impossible Jan to come. Our attempt at putting everyone behind the ball and waiting for a set play was so found out very soon, conceeding a lot of goals (second most after Fulham when he went?). No one expected us to go all out attack but I do expect us to try and win games and I think that stopped happening.

Alarm bells were ringing when we went away to Villa who were struggling badly at home and hadnt scored for 7 and a half hours perfect time to have a go at them and we set up ultra defensive with Cowie on the wing and Odemwingy as a lone target man, having any attacking ability like Mutch, Noone, Kim, Campbell, Maynard all on the bench. That was Malkys mentality and in my opinion without a doubt sending us down. We will never know of course but if we could go back now id have sacked him before the season started.

Has Ole done anyt better? Well thats for another thread but however a new manager performed I still believe it was right to replace Malky (although it should have been earlier), we had to at least try and stay up.

Malky will still be a legend for taking us up, but then simply way out of his depth.

I agree with everything written above.
As you say a legend for what he achieved but the three stage dossier used by him and moody has been exposed as flawed with Cornelius and brayford in particular.
Our tactics were to start with a point and try to keep it whilst trying to nick something from a set piece.it would be interesting to see a breakdown of our goals scored under Malky this season as I suspect more than half are from set pieces.
People forget that it was only coming to the end of his tenure that he started to introduce noone into the side.
Having seen the summer signings and then the fixtures I always believed come the end of January we would be in the bottom three with our fate being decided in the remaining games.
The real downside for me is that because of the Cornelius transfer in particular that as long as tan is here he won't trust another manager with bringing in new signings without interfering himself which can only have a negative effect on our efforts to bounce back next season.
I think the Cornelius transfer and the negative publicity surrounding it will slightly damage malkys stock with other chairmen who are considering employing him in the future especially as I think there is more mileage in that story yet regarding the fee.
Thanks for everything Malky but you are in a results game and I thought you should have gone after palace away.

Both of these posts are bang on, i'll always have time for malky for bringing us premiership football, but the writing was on the wall in the last three months of the championship season where we were awful and hardly won a game, on top of that there was the shambolic transfer dealings in the summer, why did malky not play craig noone for the first four months of the premiership season???? and lets be honest, the football under malky especially this season has been mind numbing.

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

Good points, he made a couple of transfer mistakes, but overall did a fantastic job.
He did have us playing like a team and when we played the teams in the bottom half of the league, Swansea and Fulham we beat them.
We were also a much harder team to beat, less attacking but harder to break down more like a Allerdyce or Pullis team, but both of those know how to keep a team in the premier League....

As you always say Annis, it is your opinions voiced and everyone has the right to share their opinions.

So why do you always feel the need to bring up the Malky stuff just because others have another opinion than you have?

Cant we all just move along and accept the facts that some are less than happy with what Malky achieved and some see him as a hero.
No one is at fault for saying both things because we have our own opinions.

The constant whining about Malky did this and Malky did that in both positive and negative manner is only causing more tension between us fans. We support the club, those who support Malky are more than welcome to join him in the next club he goes too.

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

Good points, he made a couple of transfer mistakes, but overall did a fantastic job.
He did have us playing like a team and when we played the teams in the bottom half of the league, Swansea and Fulham we beat them.
We were also a much harder team to beat, less attacking but harder to break down more like a Allerdyce or Pullis team, but both of those know how to keep a team in the premier League....

But with the 2nd worst defensive record in the league, ye solid to beat

To all the Malky Mackay Bashers.

First season : Malky had hardly any funds, but Malky delivered a play off place and we were runners up to Liverpool in the League Cup drawing 2-2.

2nd season : The Target was promotion and not only did Malky deliver promotion, Malky brought the title home as well with the funds that were given to him and brought up to £160 Mill in to our club So Malky succeeded end of

3rd season: Malky was given another target, to keep us up in the Premier League, Malky's point per game ratio was showing that we were heading towards enough points to stay up and dont forget everyone all the home games we had left after Malky was sacked, so once again Malky was on course to succeed his target.

Now give the man some Respect

Everyone has their different opinions/beliefs and thats mine backed by Facts, I as usual Respect everyones but mine wont change on this
Ive got nothing more to say on the subject, lets all give our full support to Ole till the season finishes

I liked malky but he was not blameless he started the big mess we are in. some liked malky some didn't and i dont think all the malky posts will change that

As you always say Annis, it is your opinions voiced and everyone has the right to share their opinions.

So why do you always feel the need to bring up the Malky stuff just because others have another opinion than you have?

Cant we all just move along and accept the facts that some are less than happy with what Malky achieved and some see him as a hero.
No one is at fault for saying both things because we have our own opinions.

The constant whining about Malky did this and Malky did that in both positive and negative manner is only causing more tension between us fans. We support the club, those who support Malky are more than welcome to join him in the next club he goes too.

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