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SHOULD THEY BAN ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES ?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:12 pm

I don't smoke but, I believe that these are better than Tobacco cigarettes . I have been told its only vapor that they blow out.
In which case surely that cant be so bad, I mean we all breath out Vapor anyway.

Also if they ban them people and the young may then go back to tobacco Cigarettes which in turn means more people with bad health and more work on health services.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:40 pm

I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:45 pm

Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:52 pm

Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:55 pm

I started using an electric cig 4months ago and haven't smoked a real fag since. And now I only really use my e cig if I know I'm going to be around smokers or if I'm having a pint. Worked for me

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:13 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop



Yer but there is a thing called freedom, and if people want to smoke so be it ,as long as it do not interfere with people who don't smoke. I dont smoke but I wouldn't stop other people from smoking if they want as long as I wasn't breathing in there smoke.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:15 pm

I use one and haven't smoked since being on it, people calling for it to get banned need to get a life

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:16 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop

like the other guy said theres a thing called freedom of choice, i don't like onions should i try and get them banned?

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:17 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?


Money from cigarettes :? What else

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:17 pm

welshman90 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop

like the other guy said theres a thing called freedom of choice, i don't like onions should i try and get them banned?



:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:19 pm

welshman90 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop

like the other guy said theres a thing called freedom of choice, i don't like onions should i try and get them banned?


Red, white or pickled onions?

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:20 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop



Yer but there is a thing called freedom, and if people want to smoke so be it ,as long as it do not interfere with people who don't smoke. I dont smoke but I wouldn't stop other people from smoking if they want as long as I wasn't breathing in there smoke.


I couldnt care less what you would do you xenophobic prick.

Passive smoking is harmful to others and thats why I say ban it.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:21 pm

Xcasual wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?


Money from cigarettes :? What else



offset against the money the spend dealing with the illnesses these things bring, i doubt they make anything from it really.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:29 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?


Money from cigarettes :? What else



offset against the money the spend dealing with the illnesses these things bring, i doubt they make anything from it really.


I would ban cigarettes altogether if I could

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:05 pm

Its probably more to do with the tabbaco company's who want to see them band lol. And there's no way the government would be able to put a total ban on smoking in this country and hope for it to succeed. All they will do, is overstretch our already overstretched police force by making them enforce the ban. And if they ban smoking for health reasons then what next? Alcohol? Take away food?. If you ban tobacco products, people will just take advantage, step up and make money by smuggling it into the country like what happens with other ileagal substances. All they can really do is restrict smoking in public places, like they've already done.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:49 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?


Money from cigarettes :? What else



offset against the money the spend dealing with the illnesses these things bring, i doubt they make anything from it really.


on a £6.50 packet of fags the goverment now take about £5.20 in tax.........you are probably correct about dealing with illness to a point........but if the goverment really wanted to make a dent in how many smoke the increases would be greater,the tax increase is always 2 or 3% above inflation..it suggests they would greatly miss the £1,800 or so the average smoker pays in taxes?

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:47 pm

Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:53 pm

Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So try and justify alcohol then, all the diseases you can get from that, drink driving, throwing up in the streets, starting fights, freedom of choice is exactly that if it bothers people so much dont go near people that smoke

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:58 pm

welshman90 wrote:
Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So try and justify alcohol then, all the diseases you can get from that, drink driving, throwing up in the streets, starting fights, freedom of choice is exactly that if it bothers people so much dont go near people that smoke


I think you will find drink driving, throwing up in the streets and fighting IS illegal

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:00 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
welshman90 wrote:
Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So try and justify alcohol then, all the diseases you can get from that, drink driving, throwing up in the streets, starting fights, freedom of choice is exactly that if it bothers people so much dont go near people that smoke


I think you will find drink driving, throwing up in the streets and fighting IS illegal

But it still happens more often than not

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:03 pm

welshman90 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
welshman90 wrote:
Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So try and justify alcohol then, all the diseases you can get from that, drink driving, throwing up in the streets, starting fights, freedom of choice is exactly that if it bothers people so much dont go near people that smoke


I think you will find drink driving, throwing up in the streets and fighting IS illegal

But it still happens more often than not


More often than not? I dont think so. if a thousand people had a drink you are telling more than 500 of them would be drink driving, fighting or spewing?

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:07 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
welshman90 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
welshman90 wrote:
Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So try and justify alcohol then, all the diseases you can get from that, drink driving, throwing up in the streets, starting fights, freedom of choice is exactly that if it bothers people so much dont go near people that smoke


I think you will find drink driving, throwing up in the streets and fighting IS illegal

But it still happens more often than not


More often than not? I dont think so. if a thousand people had a drink you are telling more than 500 of them would be drink driving, fighting or spewing?

Thats not the point im trying to make the point is you lot are saying smoking should be banned cos you whinging cos you dont like it, well same goes for alcohol and other stuff, id rather stand next to a smoker than a drunk person just because some of you dont like it doesnt mean it should get banned just like alcohol for an example look at all the damage that causes but you dont see people calling out to get it banned, if people want to smoke let them smoke and leave them be if you dont like it dont go near them its that simple, the bad attitude of some non smokers really atrocious

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:08 pm

Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice


thats ridiculous...i hope nobody confuses the two of us

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:15 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:I don't smoke but, I believe that these are better than Tobacco cigarettes . I have been told its only vapor that they blow out.
In which case surely that cant be so bad, I mean we all breath out Vapor anyway.

Also if they ban them people and the young may then go back to tobacco Cigarettes which in turn means more people with bad health and more work on health services.


I quit years ago luckily without the help of anything so not sure what these electronic cigarettes are like but if they help people to quit they shouldn't be banned.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:38 pm

Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice

So how are the government going to enforce a total smoking ban? You tell me? They can't even stop people from smoking weed so how the fuk are they going to stop people from smoking tobacco? All it will do is become a new criminal enterprise for people to make money off by ileagaly bringing if into the country from the continent. It would be inposible to enforce. And as for alcohol and junk food, it probably costs just as much for the NHS to treat through obecity related illnesses and drink related illnesess as it does smoking related illnesses. They are all major killers in this country, just look at all the fat kids about, and alcohol detox units full of teens lol

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:41 pm

The big pharmaceutical companies make nicotine patches/lozenges etc and they are losing revenue due to the amount of people now using e cigs, this highly successful way of quitting. That's all this policy is about.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:52 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Cant stand smoking it should be banned full stop



Yer but there is a thing called freedom, and if people want to smoke so be it ,as long as it do not interfere with people who don't smoke. I dont smoke but I wouldn't stop other people from smoking if they want as long as I wasn't breathing in there smoke.


I couldnt care less what you would do you xenophobic prick.

Passive smoking is harmful to others and thats why I say ban it.


They reckon that there's very little effect from the vapour given off from these and also the vast majority of users are people switching from smoking.

I think they're a good thing personally, use inside is a good carrot for people on the verge of switching imo.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Always_be_blue wrote:Yes I think smoking should all be banned. Who ever said ban drink and take away food can I ask why? With smoking ur not just putting ur own health at risk your doing it to everyone around. And more often then not its the ones that dont smoke who get ill. As with drink and take away food ur only putting urself at risk to getting ill and nobody around you. Yes I agree freedom of choice with drink and take away food but not smoking as you dont think about anyone elses freedom of choice


That's possibly the most naive statement to come out on this board ever.You must either be young or have been living on a remote island all your life.Its a matter of record that alcohol abuse is responsible for most most violent crime in this country ranging from violent assaults in town centres to domestic abuse against women and children and together with junk food is responsible for most of the NHS budget.As for e-ciggys as I understand it theres little or no risk to anyone near-by.But I would agree that much more research is needed so that some of the knee jerk comments made on here could engage their brain before opening their mouth.

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:57 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Xcasual wrote:I don't think they should ban them , the government are worried about the revenue they will lose when people quit. Smoking is awful IMO



what money?


Money from cigarettes :? What else



offset against the money the spend dealing with the illnesses these things bring, i doubt they make anything from it really.


Over 70% of a packet of cigarettes is tax - Shops make a few pennies a pack

They say that a ten a day smoker will pay more into the governement through the taxation of tobaco than will be paid out in health care

The government make billions on taxing cigarettes - thats why it will never be made illegal

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Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:58 pm

8 months without a real cigarette for me . Feel a lot healthier , saving a fortune , not coughing my guts up every morning and lasting longer in Sunday football instead of blowing out of my ass by half time .

They should be regulating the juices and then promoting them as a healthier alternative not banning them IMO

The only reason to ban them is tax