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dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:29 pm

That last goal has turned everybody away from the fact we needed to win . Yes it was exciting but that was a bad result for us . We needed to win .

The only person to blame is unfortunately ole !

He has to stop messing with the team . We played really well against Liverpool but we're cut apart by a very good strike partnership .

Why make 3 changes to a side that has just found it's feet . That starting lineup is nowhere near our strongest , it was full of championship players . Taylor is awful . Turner is young and has potential but cala should be starting and gunnarsson is way out of his depth in the premier league midfield battles .

His tactics of this 5 at the back with wing backs is good at home but when you go to places like west brom all you need to do is match them up . They are not a good team and we gave them to much respect .

Solskjaer although I believe is the right ma
n for us made big mistakes in his team selection and tactics today .

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:37 pm

He did this sort of rotation in Molde too, though with much better results. I don't think Ole is the kind of manager that you call up whenever your team is in danger of being relegated. The way he wants his team to play is not something you can learn in 10 games. If he does'nt get the boot, I am confident he will get this Cardiff team playing real good football, AND get results. I am just worried he came in a few matches too late to save the team. But if Cardiff gets relegated, I would hold on to Ole, and let him prove himself given time.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:38 pm

thomasblue wrote:That last goal has turned everybody away from the fact we needed to win . Yes it was exciting but that was a bad result for us . We needed to win .

The only person to blame is unfortunately ole !

He has to stop messing with the team . We played really well against Liverpool but we're cut apart by a very good strike partnership .

Why make 3 changes to a side that has just found it's feet . That starting lineup is nowhere near our strongest , it was full of championship players . Taylor is awful . Turner is young and has potential but cala should be starting and gunnarsson is way out of his depth in the premier league midfield battles .

His tactics of this 5 at the back with wing backs is good at home but when you go to places like west brom all you need to do is match them up . They are not a good team and we gave them to much respect .

Solskjaer although I believe is the right ma
n for us made big mistakes in his team selection and tactics today .


Of course we needed to win, but what more can be done after such a bad start. We just need to be happy that we got a point and are still in contention to stay up. A loss and no doubt we were down, I think we we fukt over by the ref again today as well. I believe the team are giving their best and there's not much more they can do, ole shouldn't of started with gunnarsson tho IMO, he has been poor all season and not up to it.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:43 pm

That's the point the bad start imo was down to the changes made to the starting 11..we need consistency in the team , when you don't have it things like that happen more often

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:10 pm

thomasblue wrote:That's the point the bad start imo was down to the changes made to the starting 11..we need consistency in the team , when you don't have it things like that happen more often

So medel wouldn't head back if kim played? i missed second goal, who was on marking? I missed 3-3 to... fok i need to watch this again! But seriusly. All week people cry for kim and john do get dropped. Now its wrong? :shock:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:12 pm

To lay the loss of points solely at Ole's feet is a bit unjust, he should be able to expect his team not to concede 2 goals in 8 minutes. Both of them were very fortunate for WBA aswell.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:16 pm

If we go down we go down, Ole will assemble a decent enough team to return immediately

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:26 pm

hgb123 wrote:To lay the loss of points solely at Ole's feet is a bit unjust, he should be able to expect his team not to concede 2 goals in 8 minutes. Both of them were very fortunate for WBA aswell.


Sometimes the manager has to look at the way he prepared the team through the week and the decisions he makes in the selection and tactical approach . I'm a big fan of ole I think he will be a superb manager just think today he got it wrong from the start .

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:32 pm

Ffs injuries were the reason for team changes

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:33 pm

I saw a very interesting comment made by some old PL profile i dont remember the name of.

He ment that the way Ole runs his team makes players believe they can start the game, they will never give up as next match can be their time to shine. Always keeps them on their toes and working hard for that starting position.
That gives self confidence to the players and makes it very hard for other teams to plan their tactics against Cardiff before matches.

A regular 11 means they can have a tactic which is dead on and play on our weaknesses. Now they got to plan for what we could bring and it gives us an advantage.

But it should also be said, he said we would be relegated as we came totally unprepared for this season and lack the quality to survive.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:34 pm

thomasblue wrote:That last goal has turned everybody away from the fact we needed to win . Yes it was exciting but that was a bad result for us . We needed to win .

The only person to blame is unfortunately ole !

He has to stop messing with the team . We played really well against Liverpool but we're cut apart by a very good strike partnership .

Why make 3 changes to a side that has just found it's feet . That starting lineup is nowhere near our strongest , it was full of championship players . Taylor is awful . Turner is young and has potential but cala should be starting and gunnarsson is way out of his depth in the premier league midfield battles .

His tactics of this 5 at the back with wing backs is good at home but when you go to places like west brom all you need to do is match them up . They are not a good team and we gave them to much respect .

Solskjaer although I believe is the right ma
n for us made big mistakes in his team selection and tactics today .



Im a fan of OGS , but think u are spot on about todays starting 11, totally wrong.
Fabio should have played longer as well in my opinion
:thumbup:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:35 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:Ffs injuries were the reason for team changes


All three changes seemed fine in the last game
?
How were they injured

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:50 pm

thomasblue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Ffs injuries were the reason for team changes


All three changes seemed fine in the last game
?
How were they injured

Cala is injured.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:53 pm

LonCar wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Ffs injuries were the reason for team changes


All three changes seemed fine in the last game
?
How were they injured

Cala is injured.


Thought he was on the bench?

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:32 pm

Dahlie goal papering over the cracks , exactly like Mutch at Fulham. The cracks were already there.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:34 pm

Golden cheetah wrote:
LonCar wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Ffs injuries were the reason for team changes


All three changes seemed fine in the last game
?
How were they injured

Cala is injured.


Thought he was on the bench?


Cardiff City
01 Marshall
35 Fabio (Zaha - 36' )
03 Taylor
06 Turner
04 Caulker
28 Théophile-Catherine
18 Mutch
08 Medel (Whittingham - 88' )
10 Campbell
39 Bellamy Booked
17 Gunnarsson (Daehli - 45' )
Substitutes
07 Whittingham
09 Jones
19 Cowie
27 Torres Ruiz
29 Daehli
32 Lewis
36 Zaha

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:22 am

Moans about team changes and sticking with wingbacks yet you wanted to stick with it earlier in the week :lol:

You also dropped Kim and John :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138529&p=1446184#p1446184

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:28 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Moans about team changes and sticking with wingbacks yet you wanted to stick with it earlier in the week :lol:

You also dropped Kim and John :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138529&p=1446184#p1446184



Come on now Thomas make your mind up :lol: :lol:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:18 pm

Wow, that was embarrassing :laughing6:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:23 pm

:laughing5:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:31 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Moans about team changes and sticking with wingbacks yet you wanted to stick with it earlier in the week :lol:

You also dropped Kim and John :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138529&p=1446184#p1446184


I reckon he forgot to change his user name.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:39 pm

:laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:39 pm

why is this a sticky?

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:47 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Moans about team changes and sticking with wingbacks yet you wanted to stick with it earlier in the week :lol:

You also dropped Kim and John :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138529&p=1446184#p1446184


I showed the team I would play in that formation I never said the players should be changed . My post was about a formation not team changes .

I actually said the same thing in both posts .

His starting 11 was poor the team that started against Liverpool should have started this game .

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:50 pm

maccydee wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Moans about team changes and sticking with wingbacks yet you wanted to stick with it earlier in the week :lol:

You also dropped Kim and John :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138529&p=1446184#p1446184


I reckon he forgot to change his user name.


I've only got one thanks , I'm sure you can check that if you want :thumbright:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:53 pm

thomasblue wrote:
I showed the team I would play in that formation I never said the players should be changed . My post was about a formation not team changes .

I actually said the same thing in both posts .

His starting 11 was poor the team that started against Liverpool should have started this game .


You said going to West Brom he shouldn't use 5 at the back, despite suggesting it yourself earlier in the week.

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:09 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
I showed the team I would play in that formation I never said the players should be changed . My post was about a formation not team changes .

I actually said the same thing in both posts .

His starting 11 was poor the team that started against Liverpool should have started this game .


You said going to West Brom he shouldn't use 5 at the back, despite suggesting it yourself earlier in the week.


Show me where I suggested 5 at the back earlier in the week ? I suggested 3 ! I never said that I said we should keep the same formation and players to get some continuity in the team . It is to unsettled . I said to keep the formation but match them up which means you tweak it slightly for each different game . ( ie - instead of the wing backs being in line with the defence they push up into the wingers role . West brom play 2 deep lying wide men so would have been perfect , Liverpool Play 2 high line wide men so we needed to pull them back slightly . Formations are not rigid they can be played with )

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:16 pm

thomasblue wrote:Show me where I suggested 5 at the back earlier in the week ? I suggested 3 !


Where you named 5 defenders in your starting team. Unless you were suggesting using KTC on the left wing? :lol:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:17 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Show me where I suggested 5 at the back earlier in the week ? I suggested 3 !


Where you named 5 defenders in your starting team. Unless you were suggesting using KTC on the left wing? :lol:

And sticking to our new found formation :laughing6:

Re: dahlie goal just papered over the cracks

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:20 pm

citybluechris wrote:why is this a sticky?



I'm new.. what's a 'sticky' please? ( regarding the forum )