Why are Cardiff fans trying to discredit the march?

Before the last few days I used to laugh at those who thought that some posters on here were Anti-blue but I have been bewildered by some of the comments on here trying to say that the numbers were less than they were, that there were anti Tan chants and most people were pissed up and it was far from peaceful. It is just out and out lies and it's the same few posters time and time again.

However by my estimations their were well over 3k, plus the vast majority of the stadium during the game made their feelings for the blue clear. I wasn't on the march so cannot comment on everything but I was in Canton from 11am in the pubs, I saw many splinter groups making their way to the Napier, I saw no racism, no hooligan behaviour, those on the march were not just pissed up uneducated young men that made up the majority of the disastrous BU march but families, ordinary Cardiff fans and obviously many were pissed, like myself, but the difference was there was no anger and aggressiveness that characterized earlier marches.

What are these people trying to achieve by discrediting Saturdays efforts?

Some people will take the fame and glory from the rather than care about the club itself. I understand what they mean but I don't agree with them. Blue all the way

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

Its people like you that the ol fella is aiming at. He is correct.

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

I have heard people say it was less than 2.5k etc you muppet

Before the last few days I used to laugh at those who thought that some posters on here were Anti-blue but I have been bewildered by some of the comments on here trying to say that the numbers were less than they were, that there were anti Tan chants and most people were pissed up and it was far from peaceful. It is just out and out lies and it's the same few posters time and time again.

However by my estimations their were well over 3k, plus the vast majority of the stadium during the game made their feelings for the blue clear. I wasn't on the march so cannot comment on everything but I was in Canton from 11am in the pubs, I saw many splinter groups making their way to the Napier, I saw no racism, no hooligan behaviour, those on the march were not just pissed up uneducated young men that made up the majority of the disastrous BU march but families, ordinary Cardiff fans and obviously many were pissed, like myself, but the difference was there was no anger and aggressiveness that characterized earlier marches.

What are these people trying to achieve by discrediting Saturdays efforts?

Well said.

I think it's a mixture of characters, some are from inside Tans regime, with a financial interest in belitting fans efforts. some are gypos, some want prem football above all else. the last group began opposing the march with a genuine belief that things were to unstable, they got a more attention opposing blue than they ever recieved as a normal poster, this fed something inside them, a kinda 'star -is-born' "i'm the famous pantmine villian they are all talking about" buzz has taken over. In essence these people have unwittingly deending into internet trolling their OWN fans. they need rehab or decent unbiased fans like yourself to wake them up.

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

Its people like you that the ol fella is aiming at. He is correct.

So what your saying is only certain people who agree with you are allowed an opinion on certain matters ?

He is giving his estimate on the numbers he believed turned up which is not far off IMO aswell .
But others who believed there were slightly less are just trying to discredit the efforts of the organisers ? That's a load of bollocks and you know it !

And what do you mean people like me ?
I haven't said anything bad about the march , I just believe everybody is entitled to an opinion especially on a forum and shouldn't get ridiculed for it

I think they are scared that tan will walk , so at every opportunity they can they rubbish anything blue.

soulofthesea
Redordead
Natman red , these are the ones that spring to mind.

I agree with you 1948 Bluebird. Supporters making a stand for what they believe in by marching peacefully are to be respected in my opinion, and I can't see any reason that anyone would want to criticise those that took part in the demonstration. As far as I could see, everyone behaved in a manner that showed that they had pride in what they were doing, and in a way that ensured that there could be no bad publicity associated with the march.
No point in arguing about the numbers involved, there were more than enough there to get their point of view across, and to ensure Tan that knows the feelings of many of the club's loyal, long standing supporters.
I think the organisers are to be congratulated, and those who took part can feel proud of themselves.

If im honest, I only thought about 3k not 5k that some have mentioned. It looked good though and went well. Was impressive in the stadium and hope it carries on, although after 19:08 rather than 19:27......after all its about the blue not winning the FA Cup.

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

You have to take thier estimates in context, the shortest way of illistrating this point.......redordead agreeing with roathie on numbers , poor turn-out etc...........are you going to defend that odious individual? I think he should stay under that name, it's all too easy creating a load of shit then disapearing

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

You have to take thier estimates in context, the shortest way of illistrating this point.......redordead agreeing with roathie on numbers , poor turn-out etc...........are you going to defend that odious individual? I think he should stay under that name, it's all too easy creating a load of shit then disapearing

It was by no means a poor turn out it was a very well Supported and well organised event . But when people ask on topics for estimates then get slated for being slightly less than others believe that's wrong !

I went by what I saw outside the Napier , the place where the official event started and I honestly thought around 2000 , once you see the pictures you. Can see more joined around the ninian pub area . Which swelled it to around 3.5k or were they just going to the game anyway ? There is no way of knowing .
That is just my opinion though and because it was lower than the op I am discrediting the march and the fight for blue .

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

You have to take thier estimates in context, the shortest way of illistrating this point.......redordead agreeing with roathie on numbers , poor turn-out etc...........are you going to defend that odious individual? I think he should stay under that name, it's all too easy creating a load of shit then disapearing

It was by no means a poor turn out it was a very well Supported and well organised event . But when people ask on topics for estimates then get slated for being slightly less than others believe that's wrong !

I went by what I saw outside the Napier , the place where the official event started and I honestly thought around 2000 , once you see the pictures you. Can see more joined around the ninian pub area . Which swelled it to around 3.5k or were they just going to the game anyway ? There is no way of knowing .
That is just my opinion though and because it was lower than the op I am discrediting the march and the fight for blue .

A lot of people marking down the the numbers have an agenda, it's reached the point that they are now belittling and intimidating their own fans who merely want to protect their heritage in a peaceful way. just check their post history, i bet that if you spoke to these indivuals in a frank and civilised way, they'd break down in tears and admit that they started out with good intentions and slowly became addicted to trolling and the attention it recieved. They just need a big hug and an open armed we;lcome back into the fold. apart from redordead he should be forced to retain this his alias and deal with all the shit he created.

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

You have to take thier estimates in context, the shortest way of illistrating this point.......redordead agreeing with roathie on numbers , poor turn-out etc...........are you going to defend that odious individual? I think he should stay under that name, it's all too easy creating a load of shit then disapearing

It was by no means a poor turn out it was a very well Supported and well organised event . But when people ask on topics for estimates then get slated for being slightly less than others believe that's wrong !

I went by what I saw outside the Napier , the place where the official event started and I honestly thought around 2000 , once you see the pictures you. Can see more joined around the ninian pub area . Which swelled it to around 3.5k or were they just going to the game anyway ? There is no way of knowing .
That is just my opinion though and because it was lower than the op I am discrediting the march and the fight for blue .

A lot of people marking down the the numbers have an agenda, it's reached the point that they are now belittling and intimidating their own fans who merely want to protect their heritage in a peaceful way. just check their post history, i bet that if you spoke to these indivuals in a frank and civilised way, they'd break down in tears and admit that they started out with good intentions and slowly became addicted to trolling and the attention it recieved. They just need a big hug and an open armed we;lcome back into the fold. We make mistakes

Exactly , a lot of the people but not all . there has been a few posters , and a lot of people in and around the area especially the Napier as the march left who thought it was lower than estimated . My point is everybody is entitled to an opinion without being put in a bracket of being part of a group against the fight for blue . Not everybody has an agenda some just gave honest opinions .
Then get abused by the same people like the op who said that abuse is wrong . He then says its lies to say that there were pissed up people on the march but discredits the same people in his next paragraph stateing that the bu marches were full of pissed up uneducated people you couldn't make it up

I think they are scared that tan will walk , so at every opportunity they can they rubbish anything blue.

soulofthesea
Redordead
Natman red , these are the ones that spring to mind.

bunch of wet cynts spring to my mind

I think they are scared that tan will walk , so at every opportunity they can they rubbish anything blue.

soulofthesea
Redordead
Natman red , these are the ones that spring to mind.

bunch of wet cynts spring to my mind

Don't see how questioning the exact numbers is discrediting the March?

Police and Media suggest around 4k.
Reports on here suggest anything from 2.5-5 k


Think the general census on here for a good turn out was anything over the 2k mark.

In response to the OP's question and following a period of deep introspection that lasted for approximatly one second, I am led to deduce that the answer to this conundrum is simply that they are World-Class Wankers.

Thats all Ive got to say about the march

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Makes my blood boil. How any City fan can mock anything Blue is beyond me.

Are people on a wind here saying that if someone gives an estimate of how many they think were on the march they are discrediting it

Makes my blood boil. How any City fan can mock anything Blue is beyond me.

When you've calmed down and your not boiling, kindly point out where a City fan has mocked anything blue?

The BU march was just awful. I don't protest, but would like to see my team in blue. But I actually was proud of those who protested on saturday. Seeing the photos of the stands before the game was great. Mostly blue, barely any red. It made me want to join the protests as it was done in such a good manner, and I think I will

Makes my blood boil. How any City fan can mock anything Blue is beyond me.

When you've calmed down and your not boiling, kindly point out where a City fan has mocked anything blue?

There are a few on here.

The BU march was just awful. I don't protest, but would like to see my team in blue. But I actually was proud of those who protested on saturday. Seeing the photos of the stands before the game was great. Mostly blue, barely any red. It made me want to join the protests as it was done in such a good manner, and I think I will

This is exactly why he protest was a success. I've no doubt it will get even bigger now.

Makes my blood boil. How any City fan can mock anything Blue is beyond me.

When you've calmed down and your not boiling, kindly point out where a City fan has mocked anything blue?

Mocking the efforts of the groups trying to return us to Blue

The BU march was just awful. I don't protest, but would like to see my team in blue. But I actually was proud of those who protested on saturday. Seeing the photos of the stands before the game was great. Mostly blue, barely any red. It made me want to join the protests as it was done in such a good manner, and I think I will

This is exactly why he protest was a success. I've no doubt it will get even bigger now.

Agreed... Why not every home game?

Makes my blood boil. How any City fan can mock anything Blue is beyond me.

When you've calmed down and your not boiling, kindly point out where a City fan has mocked anything blue?

Mocking the efforts of the groups trying to return us to Blue

Where? All I've seen is people question the exact number of fans who marched?

So you are allowed to give your estimate on the numbers but others who give honest opinions which are lower than yours are just discrediting the march ?

Your estimate is way below the " official " numbers so maybe you are doing it a disservice as well ?

Its people like you that the ol fella is aiming at. He is correct.

So what your saying is only certain people who agree with you are allowed an opinion on certain matters ?

He is giving his estimate on the numbers he believed turned up which is not far off IMO aswell .
But others who believed there were slightly less are just trying to discredit the efforts of the organisers ? That's a load of bollocks and you know it !

And what do you mean people like me ?
I haven't said anything bad about the march , I just believe everybody is entitled to an opinion especially on a forum and shouldn't get ridiculed for it

They are scared of the amount of humble pie they will be eating when the BLUE army wins a famous victory.

What strikes me as amusing is that when the BU march was criticised, we were accused of the same things. I told everyone that a protest would only work when fans stopped aggressive and forceful behaviour and co-operated and when the groups gets together - numbers increase greatly.

However, this abuse of anyone who doesn't believe there were 4-5 thousand there is ridiculous. I was at the game but didn't join the march because even though I would prefer blue to red, I don't believe anyone has a viable plan to keep the club going if Tan pulled out and I believe, rebrand and Malky aside, Tan has done great things for the club, far more than Sam Hammam or any previous owner did.

People who watched are saying that there was 2.5-3 thousand, even those in favour of blue and who marched. Problem for you guys is that is 10% of the Cardiff fans in attendance, even if it was 4000 it's only 15%. This is the problem, most fans (sadly most of them don't go on these sites) are of my opinion about the matter.

I don't want Tan to leave because I'm concerned the club may go bankrupt without his support. It was going that way in 2010 and then in 2012 also. It will, barring amazing generosity from Tan (which gets less likely by the day by some of the chants that are sung), be a certainty if he pulls out in 2014.

Guess who will get blamed if we go bust, the so called leaders of all of this.

I actually liked the scarfs and thought it was a great way to show your support and hope it continues even when all of this is resolved.