Roathy

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

He's never wrong.
Afterall, he even tells us Swine-sea are a top ten side.

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Spot on Nukes

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Well said Nukes

Yesterday was incredible.

I felt extremely proud.

Roathie is just a smart ass troll.

This forum is much better once you put him on ignore.

Just click his name and click "Add Foe" and you never have to read his nonsense again!

Spot on Nukes I was in the middle of the march and it was way more than 2500

Don't rise to it, he's just looking for bites

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

And the award for pointless boring cynt goes to................

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

And the award for pointless boring cynt goes to................

This ^^

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

And the award for pointless boring cynt goes to................

Short, sweet and true

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

And the award for pointless boring cynt goes to................

he made his point well I thought... Backed up his reasoning for why he believes the march failed. We don't have too agree...

Surely its better late than never, and a show of unity behind the blue is a very good starting point to achieve the goal of returning to blue?

I agree though, it has to be Tan Out from now on

I don't believe you would have congratulated at all if the march had 20000 on it. Raising flags or scarves has always been symbolic for support of something and also revolution however holding up a red flag would not have been a good thing. It's not nonsense with the scarves there would have been fans unable to make the march but were able to show their support by the scarves. For all who took part in the march and those who participated in the visual protest inside the ground it meant a lot and was a success to us. If it is futile while tan is in charge so be it but to a lot of us to do something albeit late was meaningful. I believe this is only the start and things will get cranked up from now on . Better late than never and if you have been telling us for the best part of 3 years you must be a mystic or something.

Tan is shielded within the club to what the fans feelings are. They are all shit scared of him. The fact he turned his back on us with the 19.27 bit said it had the impact we all wanted. Better late than never but my dear Roathy it was a success and we need to crank it up at every game now or the momentum will be lost. Will it work ? I have no idea but we got to keep going or we will loose our club forever and then ws can explain to our kids and our grandkids how our generation let them down.

I don't believe you would have congratulated at all if the march had 20000 on it. Raising flags or scarves has always been symbolic for support of something and also revolution however holding up a red flag would not have been a good thing. It's not nonsense with the scarves there would have been fans unable to make the march but were able to show their support by the scarves. For all who took part in the march and those who participated in the visual protest inside the ground it meant a lot and was a success to us. If it is futile while tan is in charge so be it but to a lot of us to do something albeit late was meaningful. I believe this is only the start and things will get cranked up from now on . Better late than never and if you have been telling us for the best part of 3 years you must be a mystic or something.

My sentiments exactly. I dont believe it will make any difference to him, but it meant something to me to have been part of the march, albeit too late I agree, but better late than never.

Again, you can all call me names as much as you like, it doesnt bother me.... Especially from "wez wally"

I would absolutely have congratulated you. I was the one telling you to do it for 3 years now. In fact, i suggested an empty stadium to show the numbers to him.

Imagine if thats what the protest was instead - there would have been an attendance of 24,000. Thats how little an impact it means to Tan, the fact 85% were happy to be out of it says everything.

As polo said, he is proud to have been involved in it - which is exactly why people arent relishing the fact im saying it probably didnt work. I understand that which is why im not being my usual scathing response self when met with angry ripostes.

If it is the catalyst for a bigger one then yes I agree it was a success. However you have 4 (?) home games left now and time is running out. I dont believe it will be, so have to take it on a stand alone protest - but if it does then I will revisit this thread and say congrats.

As of this moment, i cant possibly see how anyone can argue against it as only 10%-15% showed up.... On a protest to show Tan that much more than 10% are actively against it.

But what are the media talking about today, is it the people who did not attend the march, or those who marched?

All I have read about is the people who marched, so therefore surely it was successful

Why do you keep saying that you have been telling us for 3 years. Did I sleep for a year or something.

Anyone who was there on the march and the fans in the stadium are just happy that something was organised so well and attended in large numbers. You can harp on about the 10 / 15% not being enough to sway tan but I don't believe if every fan who attended the game marched it would make a massive difference in the short term. The real protest for me was inside the ground with the scarves nonsense as you described it. It not only had the support of the vast majority of home fans but was appreciated by the Liverpool fans as well. Some times you do what you believe is right regardless of how insignificant it might be.
Tan will not change is mind if he is to be believed so the protest could be deemed a failure. What the protest especially in the stadium showed was is figures are wrong regardless of how you try to portray them. For us who witnessed it , it was a success if nothing more than galvanising the fanbase and starting the fight back for the return of our rightful identity

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

I've pretty much disagreed with every post you've made on here until your ones on this topic.

Again, you can all call me names as much as you like, it doesnt bother me.... Especially from "wez wally"

I would absolutely have congratulated you. I was the one telling you to do it for 3 years now. In fact, i suggested an empty stadium to show the numbers to him.

Imagine if thats what the protest was instead - there would have been an attendance of 24,000. Thats how little an impact it means to Tan, the fact 85% were happy to be out of it says everything.

As polo said, he is proud to have been involved in it - which is exactly why people arent relishing the fact im saying it probably didnt work. I understand that which is why im not being my usual scathing response self when met with angry ripostes.

If it is the catalyst for a bigger one then yes I agree it was a success. However you have 4 (?) home games left now and time is running out. I dont believe it will be, so have to take it on a stand alone protest - but if it does then I will revisit this thread and say congrats.

As of this moment, i cant possibly see how anyone can argue against it as only 10%-15% showed up.... On a protest to show Tan that much more than 10% are actively against it.

So you're a jack, yet you've posted over 1400 times in 1 and a half months on your rivals forum. That might just be the saddest thing I've ever seen, bless you.

But what are the media talking about today, is it the people who did not attend the march, or those who marched?

All I have read about is the people who marched, so therefore surely it was successful

So your goal wasnt to change from red to blue but get reported in the paper?

You could have just all striped naked and not bothered with a protest of that was your aim.

It isnt the media you need to convince.

you. I was the one telling you to do it for 3 years now. In fact, i suggested an empty

So you're a jack, yet you've posted over 1400 times in 1 and a half months on your rivals forum. That might just be the saddest thing I've ever seen, bless you.

Really? Bambi was the saddest thing I saw. Thanks for the convo... Now back to the thread

You do speak a lot of sence and I agree with a lot of what you say but your post yesterday was way off the Mark.
At the Napier yes there was about 2500 but by the time we passed the Ninian it had swelled to way over 4000 and many more again by the time we reached Sloper Road. When we got to the front of the Stadium we were swelled by many more thousands.

In the Stadium it was a sea of blue everywhere and on 19mins and 27secs it was an awsome sight. So please keep it real and continue some of your clever posts but whenever we have a success like what was achieved yesterday please have the bollocks to acknowledge it. I am a proud fan this morning and not even those on a keyboard that wasn't there will spoil what I know and saw.
YOUR WELCOME CHIEF.

Nukes. Sorry just seeing this. Please allow me to explain my thoughts.

I genuinely dont think it was a success. Ive been on marches before, they are fun and they are very emption provoking. My proudest Swans moment was our Petty march. To come away from that and think it failed is a very hard thing to do.

For me, it definitely did fail. I don't subscribe to this scarf nonsense for a start, it is not an opposition, since when has anything in this world ever been changed by holding up a scarf? Its something very easy and doesn't show so much as an opposition to the rebrand but pride in the blue.

It is my genuine feeling that thè march was not a success. If it was id be the first to congratulate you - lets mot forget it was me that has been telling you guys to do something of this sort for the best part of 3 years.

When it emerged that the march would not be "anti tan" then i immediately raised my thoughts here, that there doesn't seem much point in it and is a bit contradictory when Tan has said you will not be blue while he is there.

Carl replied with "this is our chance to show Tan that more than 10% are against the rebrand" - an excellent point I thought and left it at that now understanding the point.

So to have 10-15% (2500-4000) actually protest didnt really fulfil the brief and indeed showed Tan that where as the majority may not like what he is doing, he is spot on that only the minority will go out of their way to do something about it.

I realise that may be hard to read or admit - but as ever I say it as i see it and to be honest im not entirely sure what there is to argue with.

I've pretty much disagreed with every post you've made on here until your ones on this topic.

What was there to disagree with before? Always sensible posts from my fingertips. I can assure you that.

Glad you agree though.

That's the whole idea of a forum i suppose not everyone will agree on the same things. Seeing as it's based on people's feelings and perceptions. That's why the success or failure of this type of protest will depend very much on the individual and what they wanted out of it both personally or collectively

That's the whole idea of a forum i suppose not everyone will agree on the same things. Seeing as it's based on people's feelings and perceptions. That's why the success or failure of this type of protest will depend very much on the individual and what they wanted out of it both personally or collectively

Spot on. Thats why I asked before hand, what is the aim - as to me, it didnt really seem like it was to get blue back - if it was, then it would be a tan out march.

I was told it was to show tan that not just 10% oppose the rebrand - hence why in that sense it pretty much failed. Yet people seem offended by my pointing that out.

I don't think they are offended i am not surprised by your viewpoint it was to be expected. I can understand your view on both parts of the protest but again to most the stadium protest was a great spectacle and a success in the numbers were well above the 10% that he keeps going on about. Anyone could see that his figures were wrong and tan could not ignore it. like I've already said earlier didnt expect him to change his mind regardless of numbers at this moment in time. But hope this is the start of a sea of change between him and the fans.

I'm still laughing at roathie's claim, there being 2.500 gypos on the jack march to oust Petty.


More like a 1000

But what are the media talking about today, is it the people who did not attend the march, or those who marched?

All I have read about is the people who marched, so therefore surely it was successful

So your goal wasnt to change from red to blue but get reported in the paper?

You could have just all striped naked and not bothered with a protest of that was your aim.

It isnt the media you need to convince.

Where did I state that the goal was to get reported in the media,I was pointing out that despite your comments and what seems to be you belittling the fact that only about 10% attended the march, they still got more publicity then those who did not attend, even though in all probability the vast majority of those who did not attend would still rather be blue, just like those who marched.

But what are the media talking about today, is it the people who did not attend the march, or those who marched?

All I have read about is the people who marched, so therefore surely it was successful

So your goal wasnt to change from red to blue but get reported in the paper?

You could have just all striped naked and not bothered with a protest of that was your aim.

It isnt the media you need to convince.

Where did I state that the goal was to get reported in the media,I was pointing out that despite your comments and what seems to be you belittling the fact that only about 10% attended the march, they still got more publicity then those who did not attend, even though in all probability the vast majority of those who did not attend would still rather be blue, just like those who marched.

Who gives a shit about his opinion anyway for starters he's a jack, Plus a troll and lives in australia, Whens the last time he went to a live match?? He claims to know it all from his couch oh and his stats, He spends about 15 hours of his day on a rivals forum, Hes just a loser at the end of the day