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CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:07 am

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I've always put the financial security of Cardiff City before the colour of a shirt,yes the colour means a lot to some fans and i understand this but a financially secure club Imo should be top of the list.We were at one stage literally minutes from going to the wall but look how far we've come since those dark days,the stadium and it's facilities,investment in new players,a new state of the art training ground,long standing debts settled and finally a place in the premier league.

I urge fans think twice before protesting today and the consequence's it could bring,as ogs said now is the time to concentrate solely on matters on the pitch not off it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:15 am

If it was up to people like you, there would never be a time.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:16 am

go away and bury your head in the sand, or better still come and join us to save our club.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:57 am

redordead wrote:I've always put the financial security of Cardiff City before the colour of a shirt,yes the colour means a lot to some fans and i understand this but a financially secure club Imo should be top of the list.We were at one stage literally minutes from going to the wall but look how far we've come since those dark days,the stadium an it's facilities,investment in new players,a new state of the art training ground,long standing debts settled and finally a place in the premier league.

I urge fans think twice before protesting today and the consequence's it could bring,as ogs said now is the time to concentrate solely on matters on the pitch not off it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

He hasn't sorted the debt out really as he that's stretching it a bit

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:10 am

Don't be so gullible - he's not sorted out the finances, we're still tens of millions in debt, and the mythical debt to equity has never happened.

I honestly think you must be on the club payroll.

Protest is the only way and I'm proud so many fans still care about our identity.

BLUEBIRDS!

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:58 am

If you're concerned about club finances, you must be very worried right now. Club is in more debt than ever and that's rising & yet again, Tan has declined to transfer from debt to equity & given a nonsense reason.

:roll:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:17 am

redordead wrote:I've always put the financial security of Cardiff City before the colour of a shirt,yes the colour means a lot to some fans and i understand this but a financially secure club Imo should be top of the list.We were at one stage literally minutes from going to the wall but look how far we've come since those dark days,the stadium and it's facilities,investment in new players,a new state of the art training ground,long standing debts settled and finally a place in the premier league.

I urge fans think twice before protesting today and the consequence's it could bring,as ogs said now is the time to concentrate solely on matters on the pitch not off it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

what financial security.....tan has not turned debt to equity.....we have no financial security.......to me this is no longer the club i remember...if prem football means so much to you i guess you will be long gone if we get relegated....

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:24 am

Your one man crusade is hilarious. I do begin to wonder whether you're just on a massive wind up at times.
The fact that you keep having to create new names to back yourself up should tell you something.

You aren't going to change people's minds, so how about you go back to your VT shrine, and let fans do what they want to do.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:05 am

CLUB IDENTITY AND OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF HISTORY BEFORE A REBRAND ON A WHIM!

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:10 am

TERRYB wrote:CLUB IDENTITY AND OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF HISTORY BEFORE A REBRAND ON A WHIM!

:thumbup:


Redordead/Red Leader is getting desperate, another one of Red leaders alias names Hmm

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:16 am

Owain wrote:Your one man crusade is hilarious. I do begin to wonder whether you're just on a massive wind up at times.
The fact that you keep having to create new names to back yourself up should tell you something.

You aren't going to change people's minds, so how about you go back to your VT shrine, and let fans do what they want to do.


Cause he is on a windup Owain.

Dropped a right bollock here. I wonder if this troll will have a march to tell Tan to change the debt to equity as this person is so concerned about finances. I mean I don't see any posts about the excuses tan is giving to why the conversion is being delayed from the poster.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:20 am

I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:21 am

It's got to be a wind up account or the guy is some sort of satirical genius!

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:24 am

I got bake commenting now,the man who said investers were queuing around the block to save city :lol:
You've inserted a link at the top of my post and three mods trying to discredit me ,one who waves Malaysian flags at games :lol: ....who's worried?

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:25 am

Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).


I agree theyve done nothing at all, thats up to them, but at least we tried :thumbup:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:27 am

Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).

:thumbup:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:33 am

Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).


You not got an email address mate ?

Dear CCST member,

The Trust is supporting the 'Return to Blue' march this Saturday. We are gathering between 1pm and 2pm outside the Admiral Napier Pub in Cowbridge Road East. Our Fans Survey showed that 85% of members now want the Trust to campaign against the rebrand.

We have produced a leaflet for the march to encourage people to join the Trust. Only a strong Trust recognised by the Club can really ensure that the fans voice is heard.

We need your help to distribute the leaflet on the march and to carry the Trust banner. If you are willing to give up half an hour before the game to help us, please can you email members@ccfctrust.org with your name and contact details.

Let's work together for a Return to Blue!

CCST Board

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:34 am

Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).



I noticed that with the flyer that nobody has actually put their name to it or endorsed it. covering all the bases i expect in case tan throws his toys out of the cot.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 am

steve davies wrote:
Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).



I noticed that with the flyer that nobody has actually put their name to it or endorsed it. covering all the bases i expect in case tan throws his toys out of the cot.


how likely do you think that is steve? Honestly, this March, with a number of racist idiots etc who are bound to attend and cause disruption this march could just throw a huge cannister of petrol on to the match which all we will be left with is ashes.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 am

Annis

Your posts always show that you are a true supporter of all things CCFC and although we've never met I really respect you for that mate.

I feel the same but my gut feeling has always been that we might one day get the blue back under Tan.

What's always worried me is the obvious clients on the forum who think they can change someones mind by abusing them.

Like it or not Tans in charge, he must have a bit of determination to to have reached his current position so like you, me and probably all the anti tan posters we wouldn't budge our position or write off debts under that kind of abuse.

I really hope the march goes well, I genuinely do. However the first anti Tan song or the fiest knobhead who gives the media an anti tan comment will defo blow the whole reason for the march out of the water. For me anyway...

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:45 am

If god forbid it does go tits up Steve we'll know exactly who to blame

The trust...tim
s.club....Vince
Bu....branson
aamb...annis and his side kick
mmmb..mike
and all the rest who've supported them in their vicious verbal assault on Vincent Tan.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:54 am

redordead wrote:If god forbid it does go tits up Steve we'll know exactly who to blame

The trust...tim
s.club....Vince
Bu....branson
aamb...annis and his side kick
mmmb..mike
and all the rest who've supported them in their vicious verbal assault on Vincent Tan.

Proof IF NEEDED , that this guy isn't cleveer enough for a wind-up this durable nuanced. What is it now redordead? 11 months of this bitter and twisted hatred of your own fans and the clubs identity? your desperation rises or lowers in line with each events pulling-power. seeing as this is the biggest march to date, you've left the barrel completely scrapped clean this morning. time for a name :D change?

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:57 am

Natman Blue wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).



I noticed that with the flyer that nobody has actually put their name to it or endorsed it. covering all the bases i expect in case tan throws his toys out of the cot.


how likely do you think that is steve? Honestly, this March, with a number of racist idiots etc who are bound to attend and cause disruption this march could just throw a huge cannister of petrol on to the match which all we will be left with is ashes.

:thumbup:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:59 am

Notice how recorded hadn't answered any of the questions about the finances? Either clueless or deluded. :lol:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:01 am

redordead wrote:http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137999

I've always put the financial security of Cardiff City before the colour of a shirt,yes the colour means a lot to some fans and i understand this but a financially secure club Imo should be top of the list.We were at one stage literally minutes from going to the wall but look how far we've come since those dark days,the stadium and it's facilities,investment in new players,a new state of the art training ground,long standing debts settled and finally a place in the premier league.

I urge fans think twice before protesting today and the consequence's it could bring,as ogs said now is the time to concentrate solely on matters on the pitch not off it.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:


award for the wettest member of the forum goes to...........

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:04 am

Natman Blue wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).



I noticed that with the flyer that nobody has actually put their name to it or endorsed it. covering all the bases i expect in case tan throws his toys out of the cot.


how likely do you think that is steve? Honestly, this March, with a number of racist idiots etc who are bound to attend and cause disruption this march could just throw a huge cannister of petrol on to the match which all we will be left with is ashes.


I beg you're pardon?

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:04 am

reordead must be on the club staff/payroll. He is constantly sticking up for Tan. Is he part of Tan's new marketing dept. that he was creating before Christmas to get his "views" across? Part of which was to turn people against Malky.
It could be his sneaky way of arguing his case - although he is making a real mess of it with redordead.

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:05 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Notice how recorded hadn't answered any of the questions about the finances? Either clueless or deluded. :lol:

Leave the finances to Vincent Tan and Mehmet I'm sure their better qualified than you or i.Fans should concentrate on what they do best supporting the team on the pitch. :thumbup:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:10 am

redordead wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Notice how recorded hadn't answered any of the questions about the finances? Either clueless or deluded. :lol:

Leave the finances to Vincent Tan and Mehmet I'm sure their better qualified than you or i.Fans should concentrate on what they do best supporting the team on the pitch. :thumbup:

Blind faith then? Nah i'll be a free thinking human being, but thanks for the orders :thumbup:

Re: CLUB FINANCES BEFORE A PROTEST

Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:20 am

Natman Blue wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Skewett wrote:I'm not red but I'm totally with him. Read the other posts on here and you can read in loads of 'anti tan' comments connected to the march. Every Annis' post asking people to attend if blues is there only issue turns anti Tan below too many posts are added.

You simply wont change Tans mind by abusing him and that's why I won't be marching.

Also the march wont be as big as expected anyway. I'm a member of the Supporters Club and the Trust and there hasn't been any kind of official confirmation or contact about the march so if I wasn't a regular reader on here I wouldn't even know it was on.

Get behind the team instead of trying to set the club back by losing the one owner who was willing to spend any money (no matter how much actual amounts are disputed).



I noticed that with the flyer that nobody has actually put their name to it or endorsed it. covering all the bases i expect in case tan throws his toys out of the cot.


how likely do you think that is steve? Honestly, this March, with a number of racist idiots etc who are bound to attend and cause disruption this march could just throw a huge cannister of petrol on to the match which all we will be left with is ashes.



Personally i dont think it will affect him at all unless the march turns racist which i believe is a distinct possibility. Who is there to marshall the crowd as i have not seen anyone publicly endorse the march or take responsibilty for ensuring it is peaceful.
yes there has been plenty of encouragement on this board to keep it anti racist but by the same token there has been an unhealthy hatred of tan pushed by prominent members of the board as the march has got closer.
good luck to them if it goes peacefully but as much as i want a return to blue i believe there is no chance under tan and a lot of the people on the march have been happy to accept his money previously and a lot of the ill feeling and frustration i suspect is because we are on the verge of being relegated.
For some people it will be the first time in their lives wheras it will take me into double figures.
If the march has 2500 people on it still only represents about 10% of the home support so tan would still say that only 10% is against him in real figures although we know a larger amount would prefer a return to blue.
I suspect there are a large amount of marchers who would be happy for tan to stay if he returned to blue but there are also a proportion of the marchers who i believe just want tan gone no matter what.
one thing is for certain if we get relegated the people screaming about the debt will want tan to spend another small fortune in the summer to guarantee an instant return to the premiership.