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' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:19 pm

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Monday 17th March 2014.

The FA is expected to tell Hull City's owners that they are not allowed to change the club's name to Hull Tigers.

Sky News understands that the FA Membership Committee will recommend that the FA Council reject an application by the club's owner Assem Allam to change the name, which has been used since the club was founded in 1904.

Great news! Against Modern Football!






FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Sky News learns the FA is likely to reject a plan to change the club's name to Hull Tigers to increase its commercial appeal Monday 17 March 2014





By Paul Kelso, Sports Correspondent

The FA is expected to tell Hull City's owners that they are not allowed to change the club's name to Hull Tigers.

Sky News understands the FA Membership Committee will recommend that the FA Council reject an application by the club's owner Assem Allam to change the name, which has been used since the club was founded in 1904.

Mr Allam wants to change the name to Hull Tigers to increase the club's commercial appeal to potential sponsors, and has described the word City as "common" and "lousy".

He has threatened to walk away from the club, which he bought and helped save from financial collapse in 2010, if his application is rejected.

The final decision will be made by the FA Council at a meeting next month, but the committee's recommendation makes it highly unlikely that Mr Allam will get his way.


Owner Assem Allam has threatened to walk away from the club

It is understood that the decision to recommend the application be rejected was unanimous, and was made following a detailed report from a small working party that consulted stakeholders across the game.

The Premier League, the Football League and supporters groups including Hull fans opposed to the move were asked for their views.

Sky News understands that none of those consulted believed the club had made a persuasive case for change.

Speaking to Sky Sports News in January, Mr Allam said he would walk away "in 24 hours" if the supporters rejected his plans.

"No one on earth is allowed to question my business decisions, I won't allow it," he said.



"I'm here to save the club and manage the club for the benefit of the community - it will never, ever be the other way around - take it from me. But the community can say 'go away' and I will go within 24 hours."

In a letter to the Hull Daily Mail last week Mr Allam's son Ehab Allam restated the case for change, pointing out his family had invested £74m in the club.

"We have nothing left to give, and this is the reason why the club has to become financially self-sustainable," he wrote.

"Currently there are six teams in the Premier League with 'City' in their name, and with the exception of Manchester City, all of those clubs are in a similar league position to us, and playing to similar-sized crowds.

"We need something that makes us stand out from the pool of teams we find ourselves in when it comes to attracting potential international sponsors, who are simply hoping to use the Premier League, and its global audience, to advertise."

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:41 pm

Good news for us!

On a side note, how old are you? Im sure you've said somewhere you're 18

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:52 pm

Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:55 pm

GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:57 pm

GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?


Well at 18 how can you be against modern football when your clearly not old enough to have experienced the alternative.

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:18 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:33 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?


You asked for his age and then started picking a fight by having a pop at him. Modern football for me is the new stadiums with no atmosphere, the ridiculous transfer fees and wages, the over policing stewards etc. We were in the bottom tier in 2000-2001, I remember going to York away that season to watch Leo bang in a hat-trick to draw 3-3 and secure promotion. The stewards opened the gates and allowed us all to run onto the pitch after the game. Those were great days as well, it wasn't modern football for me, we were treated like human beings. All about opinions though.

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:47 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?


You asked for his age and then started picking a fight by having a pop at him. Modern football for me is the new stadiums with no atmosphere, the ridiculous transfer fees and wages, the over policing stewards etc. We were in the bottom tier in 2000-2001, I remember going to York away that season to watch Leo bang in a hat-trick to draw 3-3 and secure promotion. The stewards opened the gates and allowed us all to run onto the pitch after the game. Those were great days as well, it wasn't modern football for me, we were treated like human beings. All about opinions though.

well said. :ayatollah:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:53 pm

thats great news

now for tan to realise his mistakes and sort this farce out.

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:01 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Good news for us!

On a side note, how old are you? Im sure you've said somewhere you're 18



bad day is it mate?

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:18 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Good news for us!

On a side note, how old are you? Im sure you've said somewhere you're 18


Craig, superb news, but why have a sly dig at the lad? At least he is all for keeping our identity and name :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Great news if true. :thumbright:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:34 pm

So now its even more important our fans finally rise and not just roll over anymore, this Saturday 2pm No Excuses. :thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:39 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Good news for us!

On a side note, how old are you? Im sure you've said somewhere you're 18


Craig,Superb News, but why have a sly did at the lad? at least he is all for keeping our identity and name :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Annis, you know me well enough to know I dont do sly digs. If I wanted to have a pop at him I would. All i said was, not aimed at him in paticular, was teenagers claiming to be against modern football is funny as it was invented before they were born so have no comparison.

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:41 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Good news for us!

On a side note, how old are you? Im sure you've said somewhere you're 18


Craig,Superb News, but why have a sly did at the lad? at least he is all for keeping our identity and name :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Annis, you know me well enough to know I dont do sly digs. If I wanted to have a pop at him I would. All i said was, not aimed at him in paticular, was teenagers claiming to be against modern football is funny as it was invented before they were born so have no comparison.


I know Craig, but lets be all positive about this news as it virtually involves our beloved Club, lets for once start uniting for the identity of our club :thumbup:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:19 pm

Hmmmm who thehhell said Modern football startex in 1991 ? If so what month ? :laughing6: Or was that just Craig :ayatollah:

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:22 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?


You asked for his age and then started picking a fight by having a pop at him. Modern football for me is the new stadiums with no atmosphere, the ridiculous transfer fees and wages, the over policing stewards etc. We were in the bottom tier in 2000-2001, I remember going to York away that season to watch Leo bang in a hat-trick to draw 3-3 and secure promotion. The stewards opened the gates and allowed us all to run onto the pitch after the game. Those were great days as well, it wasn't modern football for me, we were treated like human beings. All about opinions though.


"treated like human beings" - er, you sure about that bit chief?? :laughing6: :thumbup:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:27 pm

"No one on earth is allowed to question my business decisions, I won't allow it,"

Who do these megalomaniacs think they are? Really gets under my skin.

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Hmmmm who thehhell said Modern football startex in 1991 ? If so what month ? :laughing6: Or was that just Craig :ayatollah:

i thought it was just me thinking that..
i thought it had just evolved with the TV rights getting bigger and bigger and the importance of the fans getting less as the percentage of turnover brought in by us got less..........1991? was that the first SKY tv deal

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:35 pm

it's all relative - I've just about got over selling Tosh to the Scousers :(

TV money has been here for a long time, as have decent stadiums with facilities that aren't life threatening :lol:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:38 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hmmmm who thehhell said Modern football startex in 1991 ? If so what month ? :laughing6: Or was that just Craig :ayatollah:

i thought it was just me thinking that..
i thought it had just evolved with the TV rights getting bigger and bigger and the importance of the fans getting less as the percentage of turnover brought in by us got less..........1991? was that the first SKY tv deal

91/92 is when the big 5 and their followers broke away from the FA and formed the premier league under Murdochs giant sky deal. League Football left terrestrial TV and has only been on satelitte since. That was the birth of the modern football era. Taken away from the masses.

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:38 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:it's all relative - I've just about got over selling Tosh to the Scousers :(

TV money has been here for a long time, as have decent stadiums with facilities that aren't life threatening :lol:


its bee gradual..i dont think you can date it

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:39 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?


You asked for his age and then started picking a fight by having a pop at him. Modern football for me is the new stadiums with no atmosphere, the ridiculous transfer fees and wages, the over policing stewards etc. We were in the bottom tier in 2000-2001, I remember going to York away that season to watch Leo bang in a hat-trick to draw 3-3 and secure promotion. The stewards opened the gates and allowed us all to run onto the pitch after the game. Those were great days as well, it wasn't modern football for me, we were treated like human beings. All about opinions though.


"treated like human beings" - er, you sure about that bit chief?? :laughing6: :thumbup:


We were treated like human beings at York chief, honest!! :lol:

Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:52 pm

BLUEBIRD57 wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?


Well at 18 how can you be against modern football when your clearly not old enough to have experienced the alternative.
I hate it when old people use age to belittle others. I love the welsh rugby from the 70 era, I love boxing from the jack Johnson era and guess what I either wasn't born or was too young to watch it live. There is a thing called Internet now and DVDs (VHS to you oldies). If someone wants to have an opinion bloody well let them don't just ridicule them.

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:56 pm

Back on the subject I'm pleased for the hull fans but I'm quite annoyed in a way. The fa will not allow hull city tigers to be called hull tigers. But they will let tan rip the heart out of this club change the colour, badge tradition and soul and not give a flying f**k. :evil:

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:58 pm

What is modern football ?

How can you say modern football began in 1991 ? Because the premier league was formed that year ?

when the premier league started it was just a break away from the football league and division name change to rebrand a dated business model , there wasn't huge money available like today . Yes there was big money but nothing like it currently is .

Very little happened in the few years after 91 ,

2003 and the introduction of roman abromovich was a big turning point in how current clubs run financially , when they spent fortunes turning a average Chelsea side into a team of world class stars

Or you can go back to the 60s when Leeds changed the club colours to all white ?

Maybe 1979 with the first million pound player in England when Trevor Francis signed for forest ?

Hate modern stadiums ? they are that way mainly due to the horrific hillsborough disaster , so maybe it started in 89 ?

What about the rebrand of European football in 93 with the birth of the champions league ? Another money spinner .

There is loads of examples but the point is that football as it is today is the culmination of years / decades of different decisions made by many different people and organisations to improve the game , if those decision were not made football would be a stale dying sport and we would all be watching rugby or darts which also made huge strides in becoming up to date and modern .
It never turned in one year or on one decision . Football today is a lot different to five years ago . So many posters would have seen us a lot differently than they see us today . Football will be a lot different in five years time as well , either for the better or worse .

All this against modern football is bollocks !

Stadiums are bigger and safer because of government regulations , to fund these developments clubs needed to charge more for entry to games , fans paid . Better technical players are brought in from home and abroad for large fees because fans want to see good football , they are paid very well and to fund this the club need to put prices of shirts and tickets up again . Fans still paid .
Sky tv show loads of games throughout the year , to be able to do this football fans need to pay for subscriptions , guess what they did and still do !
Clubs find Company's to take over stadium food and drink outlets for a large fee making the club money , to be able to do this the company then charges extortionate prices , again fans still buy it .

The only people to blame are the fans . If a customer base is happy to pay , they will get charged !
First year in the new stadium the prices were shocking , hardly anybody paid and prices were dropped immediately .

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:08 pm

i loved the 70s and eighties.
but its hard to argue that the stadia are safer,more fan friendly,and fuller.
the interest in football has grown with TV.
its difficult to understand AGAINST IT...

Re: ' FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change '

Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:14 pm

Modern football or not, if the FA say "No" then that is superb news for Hull City FC and also Cardiff City FC ;)

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Re: FA Expected To Block Hull City Name Change

Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:22 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethDay95x wrote:Yeah im 18, 19 in april. whys that?

Makes me chuckle when people say "against modern football" when modern football started before they were born and they have never experienced anything but modern football to be able to draw a comparison.


Do you do anything other than argue with people on this forum? I was taken to my first game as a 4 year old. The OP could also have been taken to his first game as a 4 year old and if so, would have experienced watching us in the bottom tier when Sam Hammam bought us. The OP is old enough to have watched our revival from the bottom tier to the Premiership, so could be able to draw a comparison perfectly. Just saying!

Modern football began in 1991. He wasnt born, but thanks for your, yet again, irrelevant response.

Where have I argued?


How was it born in 1991 Craig?