Swansea only two players away from having a good team

The Jacks have a better squad than us redbirds but do they have the guts to stay up....

Of course, the players in question are Caulker and Medel - the Jbs soft centre is being found out and now they need a Tommy Smith or two to get stuck in.

Give me their attack any day but teams are walking through their powder puff middle

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Dont care about them

The Jacks have a better squad than us redbirds but do they have the guts to stay up....

Of course, the players in question are Caulker and Medel - the Jbs soft centre is being found out and now they need a Tommy Smith or two to get stuck in.

Give me their attack any day but teams are walking through their powder puff middle

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Medel would never displace Britton.

Caulker however - yes please.

But the stats say theyve got the their best manager in the history of them being in the premiership....oh wait a minute.....no they dont

Hes out of his depth, and Huw penny pinching instead of employing a proper manager could very well back fire.

1 point at home to Palace and West Brom, after leading in both games, theyve got the jitters.

But the stats say theyve got the their best manager in ths history of them being in the premiership....oh wait a minute.....no they dont

The stats currently say Garry Monk has the same points per game ratio as Laudrup managed with this squad - and hes the most succesfull manager in the history of our whole club, let alone the Prem era.

The Jacks have a better squad than us redbirds but do they have the guts to stay up....

Of course, the players in question are Caulker and Medel - the Jbs soft centre is being found out and now they need a Tommy Smith or two to get stuck in.

Give me their attack any day but teams are walking through their powder puff middle

Comments welcome!

Medel would never displace Britton.

Caulker however - yes please.

Really? With regard to medel? I know LB has been instrumental in the way you play but medel is up there, see what other players say about him like inesta and Rooney. Watch him this summer, chile outplayed England at wembley recently too.

But the stats say theyve got the their best manager in ths history of them being in the premiership....oh wait a minute.....no they dont

The stats currently say Garry Monk has the same points per game ratio as Laudrup managed with this squad - and hes the most succesfull manager in the history of our whole club, let alone the Prem era.

As you kept telling others prior to Saturdays game its the total points to total games ratio and Monk does not have a better overall record that Laudrup or Rodgers. Period.

Really? With regard to medel? I know LB has been instrumental in the way you play but medel is up there, see what other players say about him like inesta and Rooney. Watch him this summer, chile outplayed England at wembley recently too.

Playing for Chile and playing in the Premier League are two different reasons. I notice you aren't saying "watch him for us in the next game". Veron was excellent for Argentina and rubbish for United in the Prem, Forlan was superb for Uruguay and rubbish in the Premier League.

For me he is another of the South Americans that dont really adapt to the league. He is currently the 19th "best" performing defensive midfielder out of the 20 starting Premier league defensive mided midfielders.

As you kept telling others prior to Saturdays game its the total points to total games ratio and Monk does not have a better overall record that Laudrup or Rodgers. Period.

And I was spot on.

His record so far however is the same as what Laudrup managed this season, who as I mentioned is our most successful manager

As you kept telling others prior to Saturdays game its the total points to total games ratio and Monk does not have a better overall record that Laudrup or Rodgers. Period.

And I was spot on.

His record so far however is the same as what Laudrup managed this season, who as I mentioned is our most successful manager

Monk is Swanseas worst manager in their Premiership history. FACT.

Monk is Swanseas worst manager in their Premiership history. FACT.

Also has the same record with this squad as our most successful manager in history. FACT.

Monk is Swanseas worst manager in their Premiership history. FACT.

Also has the same record with this squad as our most successful manager in history. FACT.

Who you have slated for a while now? So if you are slating Laudrup, why are you praising monk for exactly the same results?

Because our football is showing signs of getting back to the way it was. In a transitional period like this, to keep the record of the previous incumbent who I am certain would have kept us up anyway while showing intent rather than passive reactive football - that is very encouraging indeed.

Monk is Swanseas worst manager in their Premiership history. FACT.

Also has the same record with this squad as our most successful manager in history. FACT.

But still the worst manager in Swanseas premiership history.

As for the Laudrup 2013/14 comparison Laudrup took 8 points against Liverpool, Stoke, Palace, West Brom and Cardiff?

Monk just the 5. Laudrup therefore took 60% more points in the like for like comparison.

But he still has the same points per game record with this squad as our most succesfull manager in history could manage. signs are good

But he still has the same points per game record with this squad as our most succesfull manager in history could manage. signs are good

Taking 1 point at home to Palace and WBA, after leading both at HT, a good sign?

Yeah ok.

Hes the worst manager in Swanseas Premiership history and any other statistic is irrelevant as you kept telling others when you were bragging how Mr.Sensational had the best record in your Premiership history.

The football we are now starting to play in large patches while keeping the same points per game ratio of the previous manager achieved with this squad (who was the most successful manager in our history) - that is very encouraging indeed.

Keep that record up and we stay up comfortably.

The football we are now starting to play in large patches while keeping the same points per game ratio of the previous manager achieved with this squad (who was the most successful manager in our history) - that is very encouraging indeed.

Keep that record up and we stay up comfortably.

If he keeps taking 37.5% less points than Laudrup did against the teams he faced which is his current record then you will be going down.

But if he keeps matching Laudrups points per game ratio that he managed this season, which he has done so far 100% then we are looking more than fine

But if he keeps matching Laudrups points per game ratio that he managed this season, which he has done so far 100% then we are looking more than fine

All ifs and buts.

What isnt in question is statistically he hes the worst manager in Swansea's premiership history

I'd say Chris' direct match comparison is more reliable than just a generic points per game ratio.

The fact that ML won against teams away, that Garry Monk only got 1 point out of 6 at home in, is worrying the Jacks that I know and regularly chat with.

All ifs and buts.

What isnt in question is statistically he hes the worst manager in Swansea's premiership history

What is also not in question is that statistically he has the same points to game ratio this season as the most successful manager in our history

I'd say Chris' direct match comparison is more reliable than just a generic points per game ratio.

The fact that ML won against teams away, that Garry Monk only got 1 point out of 6 at home in, is worrying the Jacks that I know and regularly chat with.

All opinions I guess chucks. Laudrup wasn't in a period of transition when he played those games, Monks side is. I think the fact he has kept up his point to games ratio with this squad while showing the type of football we have displayed in large parts is excellent.

Jacks are worriers by nature, i always prove I'm right which is why they banned me on the old site for a while and no doubt i will once again be proved correct regarding maintaining our Prem status under monk with ease.

All opinions I guess chucks. Laudrup wasn't in a period of transition when he played those games, Monks side is. I think the fact he has kept up his point to games ratio with this squad while showing the type of football we have displayed in large parts is excellent.

Jacks are worriers by nature, i always prove I'm right which is why they banned me on the old site for a while and no doubt i will once again be proved correct regarding maintaining our Prem status under monk with ease.

All about opinions, true.

You aren't always right though. You've a good right percentage, but not 100%.

All opinions I guess chucks. Laudrup wasn't in a period of transition when he played those games, Monks side is. I think the fact he has kept up his point to games ratio with this squad while showing the type of football we have displayed in large parts is excellent.

Jacks are worriers by nature, i always prove I'm right which is why they banned me on the old site for a while and no doubt i will once again be proved correct regarding maintaining our Prem status under monk with ease.

All about opinions, true.

You aren't always right though. You've a good right percentage, but not 100%.

I cant remember being wrong on a much debated point regarding Swansea on this forum or planetswans in fairness. At the time people go mental, then after a while it becomes the opinion of most people (usually im banned by that point). I just see it before them, i think a lot of that is not allowing emotions to dictate my thought process. Hence why I called Laudrup out on his ability while others were still worshipping him.

Monk has corrected what i highlighted and is now utilising the wingers better, playing a higher tempo and closing down. Its going to take a little while to get that back but showing good signs. I have every faith that what ive seen will end up in us finishing at least 15th.

Makes no difference. The most accurate thing we can go on is judging their complete tenure and not just parts of them, as parts of them can be manipulated. Im going on every game they have ever managed Swansea in the Prem.

Oh dear just come across this beauty on another thread.

As you clearly state the most accurate thing we can judge on is complete tenure and by that token then Monk is the worst manager in Swans Premiership history.

You also say you cannot judge on just parts of them as they can be manipulated, yet that is exactlly what you are trying to do on this thread.

Oh dear just come across this beauty on another thread.

As you clearly state the most accurate thing we can judge on is complete tenure and by that token then Monk is the worst manager in Swans Premiership history.

You also say you cannot judge on just parts of them as they can be manipulated, yet that is exactlly what you are trying to do on this thread.

Why is that a beauty? I stand by it.

You cant take a random 4 games from a manager to compare as they were different squads, you can also choose any games as they can be manipulated..

You either compare their whole body of work or compare the complete body of work most connected with the current incumbent. That, in this case, is the managerial ability of this current squad this season.

Either way you compare the whole thing, its just which whole part you compare. The whole tenure or whole of the most specific tenure. Either sees Monk with the current form that will keep us up comfortably so its a moot point really.

You are taking part of laudrup's tenure and not his complete tenure, which is the most accurate way of doing it, in your own words.

You are taking part of laudrup's tenure and not his complete tenure, which is the most accurate way of doing it, in your own words.

Exactly

Cant compare because of different squads now, thats a new one.

Was happy to compare Monk to Rodgers when it was in Monks favour, and lets be fair Monk has a far better squad at his disposal than Rodgers.

Mr Sensational has the best squad to work with yet the worst ratio in Swans Premiership history.

Monk is out of his depth, tightarse Huw gambling with the Swans Premiership future rather than get a decent manager in.

Crazy.