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Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:35 pm

In my opinion

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:41 pm

Cool story bro :wave:

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:40 pm

15yroldccfcfan wrote:In my opinion


Agree, especially at left back which he is not, he is the better of two evils tho.

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:43 pm

Not overrated, just learning the basics of the role he plays in, he's put in some good challenges, only thing he needs to work on is his judgement and positioning, he thrives in the modern day wing back role

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:24 pm

We need to stay up, so we play some 18 year old reserve player in one of the most vital positions on the pitch.

Fabio LB and Katherine RB, that's how it should be. Or vice versa.

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:31 pm

18 playing for Cardiff and being in the premiership for the first time...my arse is he over-rated he's going to be a star

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:25 pm

Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:30 pm

Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:51 pm

Of course he is over rated. You have people on here calling him the next Gareth Bale ffs!

It's truly cringeworthy the way he and Medel are over rated on here. John will be a good player but please stop heaping ridiculous comparisons on his shoulders.

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:53 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:

He's not comparing them he's using Bale as an example

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:10 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Of course he is over rated. You have people on here calling him the next Gareth Bale ffs!

It's truly cringeworthy the way he and Medel are over rated on here. John will be a good player but please stop heaping ridiculous comparisons on his shoulders.


Probably the same posters who were tipping malky as a future man utd manager

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:28 pm

totally agree with the post about him playing in a position which isnt natural. hes a left winger not a full back, so everything he was taught in the youth as a winger, is now being told forget all that and learn all the things a full back should be.....i think at a crucial time like this in the season, we need experience there, and loan him out. if we keep losing, his confidence could take a dramatic hit,

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:36 pm

welshman90 wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:

He's not comparing them he's using Bale as an example


I thought Bale was a good left back.

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:11 pm

Absolutely.

I wasn't shocked when he made Sky's flop team or whatever it was a few weeks back. He has been poor defensively this season. If we bought him instead he wouldn't be hyped up as much as he is. The Bale comparisons are laughable.

Who moved him to LB? It was a shocking decision. Push him further up and I think we'll see a better player.

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:00 pm

I think he's got great promise, makes some really good runs and is very comfortable on the ball.

Not our best player, not our worst player, but amazing performances from him given his age and the pressure we have on us.

I hope he goes on to do great things, and preferably with us :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:39 pm

I don't think that anyone believed the player in this article would come to much...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ender.html

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:45 pm

TRose69 wrote:I don't think that anyone believed the player in this article would come to much...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ender.html

Kind of funny reading that now, now he's worth 300mil playing for Real Madrid

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:48 pm

welshman90 wrote:
TRose69 wrote:I don't think that anyone believed the player in this article would come to much...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ender.html

Kind of funny reading that now, now he's worth 300mil playing for Real Madrid


It is mad

I may pop a tenner on Declan John playing for Barcelona within the next 5 years :lol:

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:01 pm

I think he is growing game by game, he has great athleticism and he travels really well with the ball. His decision making when he's on the ball let's him down on occasions but that will get better and better with experience, his defending will also come along with experience, you have to remember his last two away games he's been up against Mirallas and Lennon and has dealt with them pretty well. Here's hoping he keeps developing, the bonus he's a local lad is great too. :D

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:41 pm

Overrated ? He is still a youngster playing against world pros , he is doing great .

Re: Declan John overrated

Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:50 pm

Taylor would have been mullered by these wingers......His lack of pace has been badly exposed this season.

Young Dec is doing Ok but no world better

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:42 pm

15yroldccfcfan wrote:In my opinion


Spoken like a erm 15 year old :?

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:44 pm

Why a left back wasnt brought in over the summer I do not know.

John has done his best and he is still young but we should have had better from the start of the season.

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:44 pm

The Bale comparisons are cringeworthy to say the least

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:11 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:17 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........


soulofthesea has spoken. End of thread.

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:36 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........


soulofthesea has spoken. End of thread.


correct me if im wrong then jelly man

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:47 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........


soulofthesea has spoken. End of thread.


correct me if im wrong then jelly man


Seeing as you know Bales career so well, at 18 he had just signed for Spurs and was scoring, free kicks too, and then had a serious injury just before Xmas that kept him out for the rest of the season.

He was also scoring for Wales before he was 18.

So at 18 he was showing far, far more promise than John.

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:26 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........


soulofthesea has spoken. End of thread.


correct me if im wrong then jelly man


Seeing as you know Bales career so well, at 18 he had just signed for Spurs and was scoring, free kicks too, and then had a serious injury just before Xmas that kept him out for the rest of the season.

He was also scoring for Wales before he was 18.

So at 18 he was showing far, far more promise than John.


my point..as you well know...was backing up the point that left back might not be Declan best position......Bale had a flying start for Spurs as you say scoring, BUT did he struggle?.....was there a point where Spurs considered selling him because with him at left back they couldnt win?..he certainly was not sold for a world record as a left back..was he jellybean........
im not for 1 second comparing Decs to the Bale of NOW...at 18 no one thought Bale would turn out as he has, apart from maybe you

Re: Declan John overrated

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:35 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Sladey wrote:Problem with Declan John is he isn't a left/right back, he's more of a winger if anything. Remember how crap Bale was when he was being used as left back? John is pretty similar situation, I think he should change position

How anyone can compare BALE with john i do not :shock:


anyone that knows Bales career can, those of you that do not of course see it as insane....at 18 Bale was really struggling at left back for Spurs, was in fact on the verge of being moved on........


soulofthesea has spoken. End of thread.


correct me if im wrong then jelly man


Seeing as you know Bales career so well, at 18 he had just signed for Spurs and was scoring, free kicks too, and then had a serious injury just before Xmas that kept him out for the rest of the season.

He was also scoring for Wales before he was 18.

So at 18 he was showing far, far more promise than John.


my point..as you well know...was backing up the point that left back might not be Declan best position......Bale had a flying start for Spurs as you say scoring, BUT did he struggle?.....was there a point where Spurs considered selling him because with him at left back they couldnt win?..he certainly was not sold for a world record as a left back..was he jellybean........
im not for 1 second comparing Decs to the Bale of NOW...at 18 no one thought Bale would turn out as he has, apart from maybe you


So at 18 Bale wasnt really struggling then???

Make your mind up ffs.

He suffered some injuries and couldnt get back in at left back, talk of him going out on loan but Redknapp said he was never going to sell him.

Before the injuries he had shown enough qualitites for Southampton, Wales and Spurs to show he had far, far, more ability than Declan has.

Theres only one 18 year old kid who potentially has the ability to be a world class player like Bale and thats Luke Shaw at Southampton.

I want Declan to do well, seeing as hes from the same part of town as me, but these comparisons with Bale are ludicrous.

As for selling him because they couldnt win when he played, thats just loopy. Coincidence, nothing more, unless you are saying he was at fault only and not the other 10 players????