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What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:44 pm

Numbers wise?

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:49 pm

For someone who loves Tan, you ain't half interested about this protest. :laughing6:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:58 pm

I suppose that to prove to Tan that his figure of 90% behing behind him is wrong, then there will need to be more than 10% of the crowd on the march.

So I guess you could say that there will have to be more than 2,700 on the march for it to prove Tan wrong.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:01 pm

davids wrote:I suppose that to prove to Tan that his figure of 90% behing behind him is wrong, then there will need to be more than 10% of the crowd on the march.

So I guess you could say that there will have to be more than 2,700 on the march for it to prove Tan wrong.


I agree , he thinks 10% is all that's against him , so anything less than 2,500 would be proving him right unfortunately.

I can see us getting more than bluebirds unite did but not quite enough to make a full statement and make him worry . I would go with about 1,500 to attend as a guess .

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:06 pm

maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:23 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.


Even 5k I don't believe would bother tan , he works on majorities , I think for him to even take notice we would need probably 10k which is very unlikely to happen .

Cardiff have a hardcore of around 3/4k who deeply care enough to argue over something like the rebrand the others just go to watch football . To get everyone of them there is impossible for a number of reasons , some not able to attend the game , some have young children with them and don't want to have them around a protest , some just don't go to the games anymore and have lost the passion for a protest , etc .

Hull city are the same , it's the same hardcore of 1/2k every time at the most protesting the others don't really care . It's not just a Cardiff thing .

As for season tickets I was told they hit just over 17,000 in renewals only . Which puts us roughly around the same figure as we were in the championship but quite a bit down from this year . Add to that gold members and general sale it will easily hit 19/20k IMO .

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:31 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.




Even 5k I don't believe would bother tan , he works on majorities , I think for him to even take notice we would need probably 10k which is very unlikely to happen .

Cardiff have a hardcore of around 3/4k who deeply care enough to argue over something like the rebrand the others just go to watch football . To get everyone of them there is impossible for a number of reasons , some not able to attend the game , some have young children with them and don't want to have them around a protest , some just don't go to the games anymore and have lost the passion for a protest , etc .

Hull city are the same , it's the same hardcore of 1/2k every time at the most protesting the others don't really care . It's not just a Cardiff thing .

As for season tickets I was told they hit just over 17,000 in renewals only . Which puts us roughly around the same figure as we were in the championship but quite a bit down from this year . Add to that gold members and general sale it will easily hit 19/20k IMO .



What will hurt Tan in my opinion is 4,000 City fans protesting with the Worlds media backing us. I get Tv/media from USA,Holland,France,Italy etc etc all contacting me saying u have a lunatic owner and we feel for u fans, they all want to bring Tan down, all I want is our identity back.

As to season ticket sales, in a couple of months time, u will hear the truth.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:32 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.

This protest may just be the start. If it turns out well then I am sure the next one would be even bigger. I am sure even if 3,000 turned up that the headlines it would create would have just as big an impact.
Even 5k I don't believe would bother tan , he works on majorities , I think for him to even take notice we would need probably 10k which is very unlikely to happen .

Cardiff have a hardcore of around 3/4k who deeply care enough to argue over something like the rebrand the others just go to watch football . To get everyone of them there is impossible for a number of reasons , some not able to attend the game , some have young children with them and don't want to have them around a protest , some just don't go to the games anymore and have lost the passion for a protest , etc .

Hull city are the same , it's the same hardcore of 1/2k every time at the most protesting the others don't really care . It's not just a Cardiff thing .

As for season tickets I was told they hit just over 17,000 in renewals only . Which puts us roughly around the same figure as we were in the championship but quite a bit down from this year . Add to that gold members and general sale it will easily hit 19/20k IMO .

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:52 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.


Even 5k I don't believe would bother tan , he works on majorities , I think for him to even take notice we would need probably 10k which is very unlikely to happen .

Cardiff have a hardcore of around 3/4k who deeply care enough to argue over something like the rebrand the others just go to watch football . To get everyone of them there is impossible for a number of reasons , some not able to attend the game , some have young children with them and don't want to have them around a protest , some just don't go to the games anymore and have lost the passion for a protest , etc .

Hull city are the same , it's the same hardcore of 1/2k every time at the most protesting the others don't really care . It's not just a Cardiff thing .

As for season tickets I was told they hit just over 17,000 in renewals only . Which puts us roughly around the same figure as we were in the championship but quite a bit down from this year . Add to that gold members and general sale it will easily hit 19/20k IMO .

i think 3k would bother him..........and also providing the protest is what it says on the tin..could grow should a 2nd protest follow...

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:17 pm

As many as possible - let's show them we mean business!!!

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:28 pm

CCFC_Blue wrote:As many as possible - let's show them we mean business!!!

:thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:41 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Numbers wise?


I would love to see 4,000 plus and it might very well happen, to me that is a major success :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Why? because even in the old days when crowds were 3-4,000 only 400-500 use to turn up for protests then, that is British football fans in general & society.

What a lot fans do is walk away and dont bother to come back for a while.

I will give u an example of our fans at the moment, despite how the club are making the season ticket sales look, they are at this current moment barely 10,000(Ive been told this and we will soon know the truth come May), if we go down, I dont reckon they will reach 15,000 in sales, if we stay up then i reckon they might reach 20,000.
Some fans are blaming the rebrand and say they just watched us in the red for one season in Prem, many are fed up of the politics and some are just glory hunters.


Even 5k I don't believe would bother tan , he works on majorities , I think for him to even take notice we would need probably 10k which is very unlikely to happen .

Cardiff have a hardcore of around 3/4k who deeply care enough to argue over something like the rebrand the others just go to watch football . To get everyone of them there is impossible for a number of reasons , some not able to attend the game , some have young children with them and don't want to have them around a protest , some just don't go to the games anymore and have lost the passion for a protest , etc .

Hull city are the same , it's the same hardcore of 1/2k every time at the most protesting the others don't really care . It's not just a Cardiff thing .

As for season tickets I was told they hit just over 17,000 in renewals only . Which puts us roughly around the same figure as we were in the championship but quite a bit down from this year . Add to that gold members and general sale it will easily hit 19/20k IMO .

Even if the numbers don't exceed 3000 say and parents don't want to bring their kids to the protest there is nothing stopping them wearing blue and holding up their scarves at the times planned during the game. Would be good if a player could hoof the ball in to row ΕΊ after 19 minutes and we keep the ball so play doesn't distract the fans at that important time. Hopefully Marshall will have a goal kick.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:12 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:For someone who loves Tan, you ain't half interested about this protest. :laughing6:


When have I ever said I love Tan? I posted many times saying he has done good things for the club which he has, I said many times I wanted Malky out and was glad when it happened all due respect to him for what he achieved. I also said that our fans persuaded him to change his mind and go for the rebrand back in its infancy. Not all but a lot. I have never once said I love him and would love blue back but would prefer a financially stable club in red than the opposite in blue. If a billionaire came in and took us over and changed us back to blue I would be ecstatic. Ain't gonna happen though.

If that did happen the wankers who support our club would be dicks about something else.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:36 am

maccydee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:For someone who loves Tan, you ain't half interested about this protest. :laughing6:


When have I ever said I love Tan? I posted many times saying he has done good things for the club which he has, I said many times I wanted Malky out and was glad when it happened all due respect to him for what he achieved. I also said that our fans persuaded him to change his mind and go for the rebrand back in its infancy. Not all but a lot. I have never once said I love him and would love blue back but would prefer a financially stable club in red than the opposite in blue. If a billionaire came in and took us over and changed us back to blue I would be ecstatic. Ain't gonna happen though.

If that did happen the wankers who support our club would be dicks about something else.


Neil, We have lost our Identity and we are not financially stable are we ? Tan has not converted the debt he has mostly made in to equity as promised 18 months ago. Even Steve Davies has virtually given up on him, Steve said it would finally happen in February just gone?

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:40 am

Whilst we owe the money to Tan and he remains at the club, we are financially stable. Its when he goes that we are in trouble. Depending who he sells to.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:42 am

CraigCCFC wrote:Whilst we owe the money to Tan and he remains at the club, we are financially stable. Its when he goes that we are in trouble. Depending who he sells to.


I agree

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:15 am

Forever Blue wrote:
CCFC_Blue wrote:As many as possible - let's show them we mean business!!!

:thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Yes as many as possible & the more the better but I think it's very important to get as much media coverage as possible.
National newspapers with pictures would be great as well as Sky, BBC etc. of course.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:03 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:For someone who loves Tan, you ain't half interested about this protest. :laughing6:



So much for the Utopian Protest eh..

There is never going to be one protest that fits everyone's beliefs....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:19 am

That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:39 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:

Seeing as how both quotes are yours I agree with you..
Loads more Bull indeed. :lol: :lol:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:42 am

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:For someone who loves Tan, you ain't half interested about this protest. :laughing6:


When have I ever said I love Tan? I posted many times saying he has done good things for the club which he has, I said many times I wanted Malky out and was glad when it happened all due respect to him for what he achieved. I also said that our fans persuaded him to change his mind and go for the rebrand back in its infancy. Not all but a lot. I have never once said I love him and would love blue back but would prefer a financially stable club in red than the opposite in blue. If a billionaire came in and took us over and changed us back to blue I would be ecstatic. Ain't gonna happen though.

If that did happen the wankers who support our club would be dicks about something else.


Neil, We have lost our Identity and we are not financially stable are we ? Tan has not converted the debt he has mostly made in to equity as promised 18 months ago. Even Steve Davies has virtually given up on him, Steve said it would finally happen in February just gone?


Come on Annis you have seen times far worse than I have and I have seen players year on year sold to pay debts, HMRC at the door on a monthly basis, wages unpaid, club captains sold for pittance, us shopping in the free transfer market only. Crikey I remember when we spent money on Gareth Stoker and Jeff Eckhardt and we were so chuffed.

In comparison our financial stability is without doubt.

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:43 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:


Buses?

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:11 pm

AJ1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:

Seeing as how both quotes are yours I agree with you..
Loads more Bull indeed. :lol: :lol:


Your post is nonsense. :thumbright:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:27 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:

Seeing as how both quotes are yours I agree with you..
Loads more Bull indeed. :lol: :lol:


Your post is nonsense. :thumbright:



As is your opinion on most topics sweetie... :laughing6:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:29 pm

Stick to the boring anecdotes about buses. :thumbright:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:29 pm

maccydee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:That's even more bull than the nonsense about your buses. Now that's saying something. :thumbright:


Buses?



I put a post up about something that happened on my bus.
Got some stick for it...

Barry is an idiot who can't argue a debate without dragging irrelevant topics into it...

You get used to him after a while. :laughing6:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:32 pm

Barry I'm going to drive now.... I will tell you all about later :wave:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:33 pm

AJ1927 wrote:Barry I'm going to drive now.... I will tell you all about later :wave:


Please don't. I need to stay up late tonight and don't want to fall asleep. :wave:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:38 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:Barry I'm going to drive now.... I will tell you all about later :wave:


Please don't. I need to stay up late tonight and don't want to fall asleep. :wave:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: What's going to count as a success for the march?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:40 pm

There you go ma wee pal...

Quick snap to tie you over until later..
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