' Our Fans have a right to their own Opinions/Beliefs & Say'

' Our Fans have a right to their own Opinions/Beliefs & Say '


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For the first 6 months of the stripping of our identity by Vincent Tan, many fans were to scared to speak up for fear of threats or some saying it was Red or Dead, which turned out to be scaremongering and total lies.

Britain allows freedom of speech and besides that if you pay your money you have a right to have your say even if others disagree.

Ole is totally in the wrong asking our fans to not boo Tan,but thats my opinion, Ole should stick to the football matters only, if Tan wants to keep making pathetic statements then our fans have a right to say how they feel good or bad.

Ole already stated on Saturday night on Match of the day the Fans have been behind our team every game and how good weve been, weve done our part and will continue to do so, now Ole u do your part and keep us up.

Many fans care about our Identity and if Vincent Tan wants to keep mocking the fans then the fans will say how they feel

The fans will be here well after Vincent Tan and his Circus have left town.

Many will say Tan has given Cardiff City money, not one penny yet, a fact and until he has turned his debt he has mostly created in to enquity like he promised 18 months ago, then so far all Tan has done is create a debt of well over £100 mill for Cardiff City.

The same as fans have a right to their own opinions and beliefs on Malky

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The same as fans have a right to their own opinions and beliefs on Malky

Chris, Spot on and thats why we have some excellent debates on Malky and DJ

There has also been lots of threads deleted on this forum for no reason, so it has to work both ways

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There has also been lots of threads deleted on this forum for no reason, so it has to work both ways
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Here here!Whoever deleted boobs n bums thread is not a city fan.

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There has also been lots of threads deleted on this forum for no reason, so it has to work both ways
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Once again managed to change the topic

They get deleted through continual sarcasm/racism/name calling(complaints) etc etc we cant win, we get posters complaining about other posters 20 times a day at least.

If posters disagree and but have good debates/opinions in topics etc 100% they are all still on here

There has also been lots of threads deleted on this forum for no reason, so it has to work both ways

Once again managed to change the topic

They get deleted through continual sarcasm/racism/name calling(complaints) etc etc we cant win, we get posters complaining about other posters 20 times a day at least.

If posters disagree and but have good debates/opinions in topics etc 100% they are all still on here

Ban the grasses

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

a 100million debt for Cardiff City, he owns Cardiff City so therefore owes himself.......if and when another owner is in place is when we know how much real debt we are in..........to say he hasnt spent money? well who has then?..he borrowed money from himself so therefore which ever way you twist it its Tans gamble..........nobody else can lose money here just him.
as for Oles comments , he is entitled to an opinion. very refreshing to have a strong brave manager that doesnt mind speaking his mind.

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For the first 6 months of the stripping of our identity by Vincent Tan, many fans were to scared to speak up for fear of threats or some saying it was Red or Dead, which turned out to be scaremongering and total lies.

Britain allows freedom of speech and besides that if you pay your money you have a right to have your say even if others disagree.

Ole is totally in the wrong asking our fans to not boo Tan,but thats my opinion, Ole should stick to the football matters only, if Tan wants to keep making pathetic statements then our fans have a right to say how they feel good or bad

Ole already stated on Saturday night on Match of the day the Fans have been behind our team every game and how good weve been, weve done our part and will continue to do so, now Ole u do your part and keep us up.

Many fans care about our Identity and if Vincent Tan wants to keep mocking the fans then the fans will say how they feel

The fans will be here well after Vincent Tan and his Circus have left town.

Many will say Tan has given Cardiff City money, not one penny yet, a fact and until he has turned his debt he has mostly created in to enquity like he promised 18 months ago, then so far all Tan has done is create a debt of well over £100 mill for Cardiff City.

So you can have an opinion but ole can't?

If he feels the infighting between fans and owner are effecting the players or disrupting the club too much , as manager he has every right to ask us not to boo , tan should have been ignored because of the effort and performance the players put in but attention was switched to tan which was unfair on the players .
We shouldn't be booing whilst the players are there or chanting tan out during games IMO .
Every song sung during a game should be to boost the players not slag off tan . We can protest before and after if we want to do that . Let's be fair probably 80% of the songs sung Saturday were anti tan not pro cardiff and people still think we are doing our bit Singing tans a wanker every 5 minutes does nothing to spur our players on .

I think he has every right to ask us and maybe it's a way of saying it's making a hard job even harder .

Can we have Babes, Boobs and Bums back please?

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For the first 6 months of the stripping of our identity by Vincent Tan, many fans were to scared to speak up for fear of threats or some saying it was Red or Dead, which turned out to be scaremongering and total lies.

Britain allows freedom of speech and besides that if you pay your money you have a right to have your say even if others disagree.

Ole is totally in the wrong asking our fans to not boo Tan,but thats my opinion, Ole should stick to the football matters only, if Tan wants to keep making pathetic statements then our fans have a right to say how they feel good or bad

Ole already stated on Saturday night on Match of the day the Fans have been behind our team every game and how good weve been, weve done our part and will continue to do so, now Ole u do your part and keep us up.

Many fans care about our Identity and if Vincent Tan wants to keep mocking the fans then the fans will say how they feel

The fans will be here well after Vincent Tan and his Circus have left town.

Many will say Tan has given Cardiff City money, not one penny yet, a fact and until he has turned his debt he has mostly created in to enquity like he promised 18 months ago, then so far all Tan has done is create a debt of well over £100 mill for Cardiff City.

So you can have an opinion but ole can't?

Where have I said Ole cant have his opinion? I just said Ole is wrong to say we cant have ours and show our opinions and beliefs. I'm having a different opinion than Ole

Ive also stated I feel fans have a right to their opinions/beliefs and should not be stopped from showing them.

It does not hurt the players or team, Ole has already stated we fully back the team every game

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

yes, ive seen a thousand games, at an average of say 20 quid.........thats £20,000...or about Acorn for 6 days ffs

There has also been lots of threads deleted on this forum for no reason, so it has to work both ways
posting.php?mode=edit&f=2&p=1437943

Once again managed to change the topic

They get deleted through continual sarcasm/racism/name calling(complaints) etc etc we cant win, we get posters complaining about other posters 20 times a day at least.

If posters disagree and but have good debates/opinions in topics etc 100% they are all still on here

Not all get deleted because of that, you know that

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

yes, ive seen a thousand games, at an average of say 20 quid.........thats £20,000...or about Acorn for 6 days ffs

It's a shame the bank probably wouldn't give you enough credit to take on Tan's loan to CCFC, would that be enough for new ownership? I'm going down Natwest to ask later

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

yes, ive seen a thousand games, at an average of say 20 quid.........thats £20,000...or about Acorn for 6 days ffs

It's a shame the bank probably wouldn't give you enough credit to take on Tan's loan to CCFC, would that be enough for new ownership? I'm going down Natwest to ask later

yes it really is that ridiculous. i think my £20 k is a good effort..........but its peanuts isnt it...........all this he hasnt spent nonsense.and there are queues of buyers..........not to mention THE WE and US talk..if he drops this club,there is next to nothing ordinary fans can do.

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

yes, ive seen a thousand games, at an average of say 20 quid.........thats £20,000...or about Acorn for 6 days ffs

It's a shame the bank probably wouldn't give you enough credit to take on Tan's loan to CCFC, would that be enough for new ownership? I'm going down Natwest to ask later

yes it really is that ridiculous. i think my £20 k is a good effort..........but its peanuts isnt it...........all this he hasnt spent nonsense.and there are queues of buyers..........not to mention THE WE and US talk..if he drops this club,there is next to nothing ordinary fans can do.

I don't know the financial make-up of CCFC to comment further. VT loans his own company CCFC the money, hoping he will float the company, paying-off the loan & a profit margin to boot. This is insurance that if he ever gets tired, or his evil plans go wrong, his company (CCFC) will owe the money he 'invested' as an outstanding debt to himself in the form of a registered loan agency.

Pls correct me if I am wrong, I do no research on financial problems the club faces. I love football.

If he feels the infighting between fans and owner are effecting the players or disrupting the club too much , as manager he has every right to ask us not to boo , tan should have been ignored because of the effort and performance the players put in but attention was switched to tan which was unfair on the players .
We shouldn't be booing whilst the players are there or chanting tan out during games IMO .
Every song sung during a game should be to boost the players not slag off tan . We can protest before and after if we want to do that . Let's be fair probably 80% of the songs sung Saturday were anti tan not pro cardiff and people still think we are doing our bit Singing tans a wanker every 5 minutes does nothing to spur our players on .

I think he has every right to ask us and maybe it's a way of saying it's making a hard job even harder .

spot on

In that Wales Online article there were no direct quotes of Ole telling fans not to boo Tan. He simply stated let's all rally around the team, just media spin to get a good headline

Well said Annis Ole, stick to managing the best club in world football & forget trying to dictate how the fans should react to the extreme provocations from VT.

Every fan through the turnstiles has put more money into CCFC than VT thus far.

And enough garbage from Tan supporters claiming it is disruptive to show true feelings. All football personnel on the pay-roll are football people. If you really believe they truly think rebranding our football club is a good idea, then you are more delusional than I give some posters credit for

yes, ive seen a thousand games, at an average of say 20 quid.........thats £20,000...or about Acorn for 6 days ffs

It's a shame the bank probably wouldn't give you enough credit to take on Tan's loan to CCFC, would that be enough for new ownership? I'm going down Natwest to ask later

yes it really is that ridiculous. i think my £20 k is a good effort..........but its peanuts isnt it...........all this he hasnt spent nonsense.and there are queues of buyers..........not to mention THE WE and US talk..if he drops this club,there is next to nothing ordinary fans can do.

I don't know the financial make-up of CCFC to comment further. VT loans his own company CCFC the money, hoping he will float the company, paying-off the loan & a profit margin to boot. This is insurance that if he ever gets tired, or his evil plans go wrong, his company (CCFC) will owe the money he 'invested' as an outstanding debt to himself in the form of a registered loan agency.

Pls correct me if I am wrong, I do no research on financial problems the club faces. I love football.

there are a lot of ifs buts and maybees in all of this, we will owe the money, i assume you mean the next owner?..we dont owe him anything as fans and will never be able to take on this club ,and it would be a pointless exercise all round to sell to anyone that cant pay back the debt, so id have thought all figures being thrown around at moment are flexible..its ALL his money,its sort of down to him if he wants it back at all , part of it back or all of it with interest..........i dont think he is obliged to sell at all which is my fear..so far the harder people push the more he digs in..he could just say f**k it and asset strip,and refuse to sell...he has pledged half his wealth to charity..i read into that money isnt nearly the big deal most think it is to him.

In that Wales Online article there were no direct quotes of Ole telling fans not to boo Tan. He simply stated let's all rally around the team, just media spin to get a good headline

Looks like, just another thread jumping on Oles back, getting abit of a trend on this forum.

:ayatollah: ' Our Fans have a right to their own Opinions/Beliefs & Say '


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For the first 6 months of the stripping of our identity by Vincent Tan, many fans were to scared to speak up for fear of threats or some saying it was Red or Dead, which turned out to be scaremongering and total lies.

Britain allows freedom of speech and besides that if you pay your money you have a right to have your say even if others disagree.

Ole is totally in the wrong asking our fans to not boo Tan,but thats my opinion, Ole should stick to the football matters only, if Tan wants to keep making pathetic statements then our fans have a right to say how they feel good or bad.

Ole already stated on Saturday night on Match of the day the Fans have been behind our team every game and how good weve been, weve done our part and will continue to do so, now Ole u do your part and keep us up.

Many fans care about our Identity and if Vincent Tan wants to keep mocking the fans then the fans will say how they feel

The fans will be here well after Vincent Tan and his Circus have left town.

Many will say Tan has given Cardiff City money, not one penny yet, a fact and until he has turned his debt he has mostly created in to enquity like he promised 18 months ago, then so far all Tan has done is create a debt of well over £100 mill for Cardiff City.

Why does he feel the need to go onto the pitch ? How many owners ever go on the pitch ? How many owners do you ever hear about ? Sorry Ole, no way Jose

In that Wales Online article there were no direct quotes of Ole telling fans not to boo Tan. He simply stated let's all rally around the team, just media spin to get a good headline

Looks like, just another thread jumping on Oles back, getting abit of a trend on this forum.

Looks like just another thread Jumping on the OP's back, who is accused ofjumping on Ole's back. Like a triple-decker back jumping competition. If I jump on your back for jumping on another back, soon enough a back will break, which back is will break is dependent on the strongest backs

The same as fans have a right to their own opinions and beliefs on Malky

Chris, Spot on and thats why we have some excellent debates on Malky and DJ

I have to say that in an ideal world, fans would be able to differentiate between the playing and administrative sides of Cardiff City Football Club

Unfortunately, the reality is that when the owner makes some of the statements he does and only appears on the pitch after a positive result, then even I (as a moderate supporter of many years) can see why Tan was booed AFTER the game on Saturday

During the game itself, there were 'pockets' of anti-Tan singing (one particularly expletive-laden and offensive one coming from the Canton end of the Ninian Stand ) but on the whole I think the paying supporters in attendance got behind the team and helped keep a positive atmosphere even after Fulham scored their goal and that was to the credit of the vast majority

The same as fans have a right to their own opinions and beliefs on Malky

Chris, Spot on and thats why we have some excellent debates on Malky and DJ

I have to say that in an ideal world, fans would be able to differentiate between the playing and administrative sides of Cardiff City Football Club

Unfortunately, the reality is that when the owner makes some of the statements he does and only appears on the pitch after a positive result, then even I (as a moderate supporter of many years) can see why Tan was booed AFTER the game on Saturday

During the game itself, there were 'pockets' of anti-Tan singing (one particularly expletive-laden and offensive one coming from the Canton end of the Ninian Stand ) but on the whole I think the paying supporters in attendance got behind the team and helped keep a positive atmosphere even after Fulham scored their goal and that was to the credit of the vast majority

take the anger over the re brand out of the equation, and what did Tan do wrong?
Sam was forever on the pitch..
an excited owner celebrating a big win..you dont really expect him on the pitch after we lose? 2 nil down fans leave early..2 nil up they stay in to sing......its normal

a 100million debt for Cardiff City, he owns Cardiff City so therefore owes himself.......if and when another owner is in place is when we know how much real debt we are in..........to say he hasnt spent money? well who has then?..he borrowed money from himself so therefore which ever way you twist it its Tans gamble..........nobody else can lose money here just him.
as for Oles comments , he is entitled to an opinion. very refreshing to have a strong brave manager that doesnt mind speaking his mind.

It would be nice to have strong fans prepared to defend our colours as well but unfortunately we have got fans like you instead..

a 100million debt for Cardiff City, he owns Cardiff City so therefore owes himself.......if and when another owner is in place is when we know how much real debt we are in..........to say he hasnt spent money? well who has then?..he borrowed money from himself so therefore which ever way you twist it its Tans gamble..........nobody else can lose money here just him.
as for Oles comments , he is entitled to an opinion. very refreshing to have a strong brave manager that doesnt mind speaking his mind.

It would be nice to have strong fans prepared to defend our colours as well but unfortunately we have got fans like you instead..

when MY club needs me to defend it..i f*cking will...you really thing the tan is a wanker brigade are the brave? pmsl..if there was a row zz youd be init,as far away as possible singing your keyboard crap...

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For the first 6 months of the stripping of our identity by Vincent Tan, many fans were to scared to speak up for fear of threats or some saying it was Red or Dead, which turned out to be scaremongering and total lies.

Britain allows freedom of speech and besides that if you pay your money you have a right to have your say even if others disagree.

Ole is totally in the wrong asking our fans to not boo Tan,but thats my opinion, Ole should stick to the football matters only, if Tan wants to keep making pathetic statements then our fans have a right to say how they feel good or bad.

Ole already stated on Saturday night on Match of the day the Fans have been behind our team every game and how good weve been, weve done our part and will continue to do so, now Ole u do your part and keep us up.

Many fans care about our Identity and if Vincent Tan wants to keep mocking the fans then the fans will say how they feel

The fans will be here well after Vincent Tan and his Circus have left town.

Many will say Tan has given Cardiff City money, not one penny yet, a fact and until he has turned his debt he has mostly created in to enquity like he promised 18 months ago, then so far all Tan has done is create a debt of well over £100 mill for Cardiff City.

I'm sorry but you just don't get it do you!!!
You attack Tan, quite rightly on occasions for some of his untimely outburst because it damages our club.
Booing and staging a protest will do exactly the same. The media will latch on to it as they do and will turn any positives into negatives and damage the club.
Of course we need our colour and identity back but NOW is not the time for protest it is surely the time for unity, time to get behind the team and be the twelfth man. Protesting will have a psychological effect on everyone. You simply can't protest one minute and support the next, that's been the problem with the atmosphere of late.
As a "fan's leader" and supporter I would expect better but I suppose we all have our agendas?

In that Wales Online article there were no direct quotes of Ole telling fans not to boo Tan. He simply stated let's all rally around the team, just media spin to get a good headline

So as usual the media twisting things.