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Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:55 am

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137581

You can't form an opinion on 11 games :laughing6: I personally will judge him at the end of 2014/15 and I have every confidence that he will be a massive success by the end of next season - bookmark this!!! :ayatollah:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:01 am

If the media are suggesting Moyes cannot be judged this season because it's not his team then how on earth can people judge Ole? :lol: :x :lol:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:28 am

People are judged in every walk of life. If I went to my in-laws with holes in shoes & Gary Medel inspired hair-cut, they would instantly judge my appearance as being bad.

I agree that it would be wrong to have a go at him inside the stadium when the focus is on the team performance.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:30 am

Managers are judged on results and that's a fact.
Yes I've jumped the gun, I was going to judge Ole after. 12 games, but I cheated I judged Ole after 11 games :lol:

But I'm just a fan, and it's my own personal opinion. :thumbup:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:35 am

AJ1927 wrote:If the media are suggesting Moyes cannot be judged this season because it's not his team then how on earth can people judge Ole? :lol: :x :lol:


Because the media and people on this forum are not the same people?! :? :lol:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:41 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:If the media are suggesting Moyes cannot be judged this season because it's not his team then how on earth can people judge Ole? :lol: :x :lol:


Because the media and people on this forum are not the same people?! :? :lol:

:lol:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:51 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:If the media are suggesting Moyes cannot be judged this season because it's not his team then how on earth can people judge Ole? :lol: :x :lol:


Because the media and people on this forum are not the same people?! :? :lol:

:lol:

And.......

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:12 am

Fans Media whatever, 12 games and he can be judged :lol:
Foolish.
How long did Fulham board give Allo Allo ohhhh Rene?
Despite backing him heavily in the window?

Judge him at the end of his time at the club not when he is just starting.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:22 am

Im in the middle... The problem is, ole was brought in to get the club out of the relegation places ultimately he isn't doing that, so judging that then he hasn't been good enough, but I think he came knowing full well that it was going to be tough to stay up and looked further down the line and has started preparing us for next season, which if we are all honest will be in the championship

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:17 pm

Annis how can you judge ole on 11 or 12 games you gave jones time malky time so what the difference ?

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:22 pm

There's Going to be a lot of eggs on faces here if Ole does manage to keep us up (unlikely I know but not impossible) or should we go down, he brings us straight back up as Champions (Highly likely due to the advantage of parachute payments)end of next season. Whatever anyone says OGS has been far shrewder in the transfer market and unlike Malky (who in my opinion was a one trick pony) he has the tactical nous to change formation several times during a game. Sadly we are lacking 2 decent strikers (it was very hard to attract these in the January window due to our League position) but this I'm sure will be addressed in the summer and watch us go next season.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:29 pm

binero wrote:Annis how can you judge ole on 11 or 12 games you gave jones time malky time so what the difference ?

its simple jones had no money and needed time, malky got us promoted!!! ole in no win situation he has had neither, so easier to judge him now rather than at end of his contract! you never know might do a malky and that will not do will it??? :)

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:41 pm

I Just think you got to give the man at least 1 complete season but it just seems just cos Tan put him there lets not give the man a chance attitude with certain people on this messageboard

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:54 pm

Am I right in saying Ole was brought in to save us from relegation? if this is the case then surely he can and must be judged.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:06 pm

novice wrote:Am I right in saying Ole was brought in to save us from relegation? if this is the case then surely he can and must be judged.

In that case he should be judged when we are confirned down or we stay up. Then the ccfc board will judge him, he will judge the players and eveyone can move on from there.. But personally i think he was primarelly brought in for the long run, rebuild for the future and be a stable premier side. But first step offcourse is try to stay up.. But all this blame calling i just silly and is leading nowhere..

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:33 pm

He's going to be judged when there are 25000 people who think they could pick a better team/ formation. Not saying it's right just how it is. I think where he has let himself down the most is in his altering of players and formation. Or simply he's been unlucky with injuries and massive slumps in form. Whatever the outcome this season he must be there at the start of next season to give him a chance with his own team not one he largely inherited.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:02 pm

ihatealiens wrote:http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137581

You can't form an opinion on 11 games :laughing6: I personally will judge him at the end of 2014/15 and I have every confidence that he will be a massive success by the end of next season - bookmark this!!! :ayatollah:

Yes you can form an opinion. Ole took on this challenge fully knowing what the situation was warts and all. If he thought that the challenge was too big then he should not have accepted it in the first place. It is no good now coming up with excuses why he can't get the results as he knew the score from the beginning so it was his free choice to come and he thought he could make a difference which he has not done thus far so I will judge him thanks, :ayatollah:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:06 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137581

You can't form an opinion on 11 games :laughing6: I personally will judge him at the end of 2014/15 and I have every confidence that he will be a massive success by the end of next season - bookmark this!!! :ayatollah:

Yes you can form an opinion. Ole took on this challenge fully knowing what the situation was warts and all. If he thought that the challenge was too big then he should not have accepted it in the first place. It is no good now coming up with excuses why he can't get the results as he knew the score from the beginning so it was his free choice to come and he thought he could make a difference which he has not done thus far so I will judge him thanks, :ayatollah:


11 games :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :roll:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:49 pm

Ole tok over a team to take the team to play attacking and positive football,
Opposite to the superdefensive play under Malky.

OGS is on the way, but it was not a fast click.

A dissapointment has been the hardcore fans, who boo at their own players and are in war with the owner.

This affect the players as well, and I never seen this sort of behavior in any other club.

Judgements of the season comes after this season is ended I should say.

Support your team boys :ole: :ole: :ole: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:59 pm

Golden cheetah wrote:Ole tok over a team to take the team to play attacking and positive football,
Opposite to the superdefensive play under Malky.

OGS is on the way, but it was not a fast click.

A dissapointment has been the hardcore fans, who boo at their own players and are in war with the owner.

This affect the players as well, and I never seen this sort of behavior in any other club.

Judgements of the season comes after this season is ended I should say.

Support your team boys :ole: :ole: :ole: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

No we will judge now sorry. Ole was brought in to replace Malky because Tan felt Ole could keep us up. He took on this challenge and is not cutting the mustard. If he did not think he could of done it then he should not have come. :ayatollah:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:00 pm

Arrow wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137581

You can't form an opinion on 11 games :laughing6: I personally will judge him at the end of 2014/15 and I have every confidence that he will be a massive success by the end of next season - bookmark this!!! :ayatollah:

Yes you can form an opinion. Ole took on this challenge fully knowing what the situation was warts and all. If he thought that the challenge was too big then he should not have accepted it in the first place. It is no good now coming up with excuses why he can't get the results as he knew the score from the beginning so it was his free choice to come and he thought he could make a difference which he has not done thus far so I will judge him thanks, :ayatollah:


11 games :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :roll:

I refer you to my reply above. :ayatollah:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:04 pm

But people can judge Pulis after the same amount more or less? :old:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:28 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:
Golden cheetah wrote:Ole tok over a team to take the team to play attacking and positive football,
Opposite to the superdefensive play under Malky.

OGS is on the way, but it was not a fast click.

A dissapointment has been the hardcore fans, who boo at their own players and are in war with the owner.

This affect the players as well, and I never seen this sort of behavior in any other club.

Judgements of the season comes after this season is ended I should say.

Support your team boys :ole: :ole: :ole: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

No we will judge now sorry. Ole was brought in to replace Malky because Tan felt Ole could keep us up. He took on this challenge and is not cutting the mustard. If he did not think he could of done it then he should not have come. :ayatollah:


Its not over yet, City may well stay up. But with fans like you only want to be negative the club will go down

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:21 pm

novice wrote:Am I right in saying Ole was brought in to save us from relegation? if this is the case then surely he can and must be judged.

Yes. At the end of the 38 game season he can be judged.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:30 pm

Am I right in thinking that OGS is earning 80 odd grand a week..?

If so, then yes! I will judge him!

He was brought in to keep us up, and it doesn't look like that'll happen.

If (more than likely when) we go down, do we want him on the wage bill?

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Managers are judged on results and that's a fact.
Yes I've jumped the gun, I was going to judge Ole after. 12 games, but I cheated I judged Ole after 11 games :lol:

But I'm just a fan, and it's my own personal opinion. :thumbup:


I remember you saying judge malky after he clears jones's deadwood and brings in the players he wants?
Malky had a few good transfer windows Why can't ole get the same treatment?

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:58 pm

Jinks wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Managers are judged on results and that's a fact.
Yes I've jumped the gun, I was going to judge Ole after. 12 games, but I cheated I judged Ole after 11 games :lol:

But I'm just a fan, and it's my own personal opinion. :thumbup:


I remember you saying judge malky after he clears jones's deadwood and brings in the players he wants?
Malky had a few good transfer windows Why can't ole get the same treatment?

Because it don't suit some fans agendas as Tan brought in Ole..pathetic really

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:13 pm

ihatealiens wrote:There's Going to be a lot of eggs on faces here if Ole does manage to keep us up (unlikely I know but not impossible) or should we go down, he brings us straight back up as Champions (Highly likely due to the advantage of parachute payments)end of next season. Whatever anyone says OGS has been far shrewder in the transfer market and unlike Malky (who in my opinion was a one trick pony) he has the tactical nous to change formation several times during a game. Sadly we are lacking 2 decent strikers (it was very hard to attract these in the January window due to our League position) but this I'm sure will be addressed in the summer and watch us go next season.


If Ole keeps us up, I will be the first to say I wrong,But the truth is he should keep us up, he has started with 18 games ahead of him and 7 new players and City not in the bottom 3. :thumbup:

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:20 pm

Fans with brains bigger than peanuts knows and understands that OGS got brought in to change things.

Tan always says that this is not for pleasure, it`s BUSINESS. Who becomes a fan of a team who has 9 centrebacks and 1 defensive midfielder?

OGS got appointed to make Cardiff into an attacking team. We shall play attractive football and that was part of the deal when he got appointed.
I think both Tan and OGS underestimated the quality of our team. Only the dumbest of our fans believes we are good enough to rocket up the league and secure a place around top 10.

I will wait until he has gotten through the summer window and get his own players in, then i will judge him.

Re: Too early to be judgemental on OSG

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:20 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:There's Going to be a lot of eggs on faces here if Ole does manage to keep us up (unlikely I know but not impossible) or should we go down, he brings us straight back up as Champions (Highly likely due to the advantage of parachute payments)end of next season. Whatever anyone says OGS has been far shrewder in the transfer market and unlike Malky (who in my opinion was a one trick pony) he has the tactical nous to change formation several times during a game. Sadly we are lacking 2 decent strikers (it was very hard to attract these in the January window due to our League position) but this I'm sure will be addressed in the summer and watch us go next season.


If Ole keeps us up, I will be the first to say I wrong,But the truth is he should keep us up, he has started with 18 games ahead of him and 7 new players and City not in the bottom 3. :thumbup:


If you by a cow and she wont milk its your problem. but is it the cows fault or yours?
You wont be the first and you wont be the last! :D :ayatollah: