Malky needed MORE than £40mil

The shit players everyone on here talks about (CHAMPIONSHIP WINNERS) apart from Campbell, Noone, Bellers & Marshall who as yet, haven't had much stick



Swansea City PLAY-OFF FINAL WINNING TEAM


Our fans demand a complete overhaul our Championship winning Cardiff team, yet Swansea's play-off winning team kept together & had bigger clubs poach their players. Hmm, this surely points to Mr Mackay overachieving somewhat with the squad he had. A victim of his own success.

Malky was then being asked to overachieve further by staying in the PL with a £40mil budget. Now I tried last night to pick £40mil worth of quality signings with the hindsight of how other clubs went about their business, & more importantly, how successful they were.

Mr Mackay did not have this time-travel tool to cherry pick the best players available.

VT is living in cloud-coo-coo thinking £40mil was enough with that squad. Swansea City's squad was a better squad and reap the benefits to this day.

VT is a very ungrateful man. Bye

Rubbish.

40m is more than enough if spent correctly. Mm didn't go for enough proven prem quality. Spent.30m on 3 players.

Is this a joke? How many newly promoted teams have spent over 40m on players? Hull had spent 15 odd before Long and Jelavic had arrived. Palace spent 20m before January and were doing better than us despite winning 1 game until October.

If you give any manager worth his salt 35m (50 if you count extra fees) to keep a team up then I'm sure they'll do it.

We need to leave Malky in the past now because all the threads comparing him to Ole and crying that he was sacked are f*cking tedious.

Nobody was complaining about Malky's signings at the start of the season when we beat Man City and Fulham. Unfortunately, Tan started disrupting things early on and it was a miracle Malky was still able to keep us above the relegation zone all season with everything that went on. 7 out of the current top 9 in the league were already played at home, leaving us aside from Liverpool and Chelsea, the bottom half left to play at home for the second half of the season. I believe Malky would have picked up the results required at home in those games to not only avoid relegation, but steer us towards mid table, like Steve Bruce is doing with Hull.

I'm not denying Cornelius was a big flop, but even the best managers make mistakes sometimes, and Malky won us that Cornelius money by getting us to the Premiership in the first place anyway. I notice nobody is commented on Brayford these days, probably because we've all seen what a cracking player he looks on loan to Sheffield United at the moment, getting man of the match performances against Premiership opposition. Brayford is a funny one, Malky never played him and as soon as Ole came in, Brayford still had to leave, so I wonder if that's something to do with Tan perhaps?

But everything has gone pear shaped since Tan let his jealous ego influence his behaviour, disrupting things at any opportunity he could and eventually sacking Malky. Look where that has left us now.

40m is more than enough if spent correctly. Mm didn't go for enough proven prem quality. Spent.30m on 3 players.

Very suprising he didn't sign premiership players

which big clubs sharked around our Championship winning team then? Was it:

A) Liverpool
B) Man City
C) Neither

Palace are only getting out of the mess they were in cos of Pulis.

Hull have a more experienced manager than Mackay. No doubt about that, no reason to sack him though

Malky is gone. Get over it. His dealings in the summer show he needed help as he cracked with a big budget. After spending that in the summer, inc one third of our budget on "one for the future" when everybody knew we have needed a striker for 2 seasons!

Dam right, I expected better than 17th with hoofball crap after he spent all that money!

For the purposes of accuracy, the Swans play off final team there is wrong.

Taylor was suspended so Tate was left back and Dobbie played rather than Agustien.

The reality is that Swansea have played better football than us for a while... They have had a passing style running through the club over a number of managers - Rodgers, Sousa, Martinez... Cardiff have never had that, Malky had to totally rebuild the squad, did a great job to get us promoted but we never had a great style of play or an footballing identiy the same way Swansea did when they got promoted...

Thus his signings were about shoring things up (Medel and Caulker) and trying to get a good striker in. For the style of play he was looking for it worked well until after Man Utd at home... If Cornelius had worked out then it could have worked even better... His biggest mistake was not buying another striker of course, as it was obviously Cornelius was a risk and then Odemwingie was a panic buy...

The reality is that Swansea have played better football than us for a while... They have had a passing style running through the club over a number of managers - Rodgers, Sousa, Martinez... Cardiff have never had that, Malky had to totally rebuild the squad, did a great job to get us promoted but we never had a great style of play or an footballing identiy the same way Swansea did when they got promoted...

Thus his signings were about shoring things up (Medel and Caulker) and trying to get a good striker in. For the style of play he was looking for it worked well until after Man Utd at home... If Cornelius had worked out then it could have worked even better... His biggest mistake was not buying another striker of course, as it was obviously Cornelius was a risk and then Odemwingie was a panic buy...

^^^all true Malky was the sacroficial lamb for the short-termism that now is the club mantra. We pay premium prices as clubs know we got tha dough. Malky was one striker away from having a successful transfer window. The team needed alot of maintenance work to hold its own as it was built to do a job in the Championship. At the Swans it was a different story.

Malky is gone. Get over it. His dealings in the summer show he needed help as he cracked with a big budget. After spending that in the summer, inc one third of our budget on "one for the future" when everybody knew we have needed a striker for 2 seasons!

Dam right, I expected better than 17th with hoofball crap after he spent all that money!

I agree he needed advice on how to spend, i.e, someone to tell him he is crazy to spend a big chunk of his budget on an unproven striker. That aside though Craig, was his spending that bad? This is something I was thinking about last night. I understand malky has gone, and posts like mine are tedious, this is my way of healing from PTS disorder

Malky is gone. Get over it. His dealings in the summer show he needed help as he cracked with a big budget. After spending that in the summer, inc one third of our budget on "one for the future" when everybody knew we have needed a striker for 2 seasons!

Dam right, I expected better than 17th with hoofball crap after he spent all that money!

I agree he needed advice on how to spend, i.e, someone to tell him he is crazy to spend a big chunk of his budget on an unproven striker. That aside though Craig, was his spending that bad? This is something I was thinking about last night. I understand malky has gone, and posts like mine are tedious, this is my way of healing from PTS disorder

This summer his spending was awful. Medel was overpriced, good player but overpriced. Caulker was a good signing but KTC, Brayford (just never to play him) and Acorn not to mention Peter Chickinwingie.....they were terrible pieces of business.

Nobody was complaining about Malky's signings at the start of the season when we beat Man City and Fulham. Unfortunately, Tan started disrupting things early on and it was a miracle Malky was still able to keep us above the relegation zone all season with everything that went on. 7 out of the current top 9 in the league were already played at home, leaving us aside from Liverpool and Chelsea, the bottom half left to play at home for the second half of the season. I believe Malky would have picked up the results required at home in those games to not only avoid relegation, but steer us towards mid table, like Steve Bruce is doing with Hull.

I'm not denying Cornelius was a big flop, but even the best managers make mistakes sometimes, and Malky won us that Cornelius money by getting us to the Premiership in the first place anyway. I notice nobody is commented on Brayford these days, probably because we've all seen what a cracking player he looks on loan to Sheffield United at the moment, getting man of the match performances against Premiership opposition. Brayford is a funny one, Malky never played him and as soon as Ole came in, Brayford still had to leave, so I wonder if that's something to do with Tan perhaps?

But everything has gone pear shaped since Tan let his jealous ego influence his behaviour, disrupting things at any opportunity he could and eventually sacking Malky. Look where that has left us now.

Can you tell me what exactly went on? what was said by Tan? cheers

Nobody was complaining about Malky's signings at the start of the season when we beat Man City and Fulham. Unfortunately, Tan started disrupting things early on and it was a miracle Malky was still able to keep us above the relegation zone all season with everything that went on. 7 out of the current top 9 in the league were already played at home, leaving us aside from Liverpool and Chelsea, the bottom half left to play at home for the second half of the season. I believe Malky would have picked up the results required at home in those games to not only avoid relegation, but steer us towards mid table, like Steve Bruce is doing with Hull.

I'm not denying Cornelius was a big flop, but even the best managers make mistakes sometimes, and Malky won us that Cornelius money by getting us to the Premiership in the first place anyway. I notice nobody is commented on Brayford these days, probably because we've all seen what a cracking player he looks on loan to Sheffield United at the moment, getting man of the match performances against Premiership opposition. Brayford is a funny one, Malky never played him and as soon as Ole came in, Brayford still had to leave, so I wonder if that's something to do with Tan perhaps?

But everything has gone pear shaped since Tan let his jealous ego influence his behaviour, disrupting things at any opportunity he could and eventually sacking Malky. Look where that has left us now.

Can you tell me what exactly went on? what was said by Tan? cheers

Where do you want me to start?

Before Tan undermined Malky by sacking Iain Moody and tried replacing him with Borat, he was disrupting things off the pitch. The rebrand and scarfgate last season, his "ungrateful customers" remark towards the fans, his failure to convert debt to equity, requesting players with the number 8 in their birth dates to be signed, questioning why our full backs and keeper haven't scored, interfering with team affairs such as getting notes passed to Malky during games etc. It was clear with their handshake after we beat Man City that all was not well. Tan continuously brings us negative press with his big mouth and constant interference. It's guaranteed our players can't always be in the correct mindset for some games and this was evident for the Southampton game that sealed Malky's fate.

If we get relegated, it's all Vincent Tan's fault.

Tonteg, you chat some shit.

you really believe all that......time to grow up mate, the media....they lie!

Nobody was complaining about Malky's signings at the start of the season when we beat Man City and Fulham. Unfortunately, Tan started disrupting things early on and it was a miracle Malky was still able to keep us above the relegation zone all season with everything that went on. 7 out of the current top 9 in the league were already played at home, leaving us aside from Liverpool and Chelsea, the bottom half left to play at home for the second half of the season. I believe Malky would have picked up the results required at home in those games to not only avoid relegation, but steer us towards mid table, like Steve Bruce is doing with Hull.

I'm not denying Cornelius was a big flop, but even the best managers make mistakes sometimes, and Malky won us that Cornelius money by getting us to the Premiership in the first place anyway. I notice nobody is commented on Brayford these days, probably because we've all seen what a cracking player he looks on loan to Sheffield United at the moment, getting man of the match performances against Premiership opposition. Brayford is a funny one, Malky never played him and as soon as Ole came in, Brayford still had to leave, so I wonder if that's something to do with Tan perhaps?

But everything has gone pear shaped since Tan let his jealous ego influence his behaviour, disrupting things at any opportunity he could and eventually sacking Malky. Look where that has left us now.

Can you tell me what exactly went on? what was said by Tan? cheers

Where do you want me to start?

Before Tan undermined Malky by sacking Iain Moody and tried replacing him with Borat, he was disrupting things off the pitch. The rebrand and scarfgate last season, his "ungrateful customers" remark towards the fans, his failure to convert debt to equity, requesting players with the number 8 in their birth dates to be signed, questioning why our full backs and keeper haven't scored, interfering with team affairs such as getting notes passed to Malky during games etc. It was clear with their handshake after we beat Man City that all was not well. Tan continuously brings us negative press with his big mouth and constant interference. It's guaranteed our players can't always be in the correct mindset for some games and this was evident for the Southampton game that sealed Malky's fate.

If we get relegated, it's all Vincent Tan's fault.

So Tan wasn't disrupting the dressing room as some have claimed? Did he interfere with Malkys team selection and tactics?

40m is more than enough if spent correctly. Mm didn't go for enough proven prem quality. Spent.30m on 3 players.

Very suprising he didn't sign premiership players

check this out...............no club has ever spent more than we did in the 1st window after being promoted..and i think im right in saying no club has spent as much as us in their FIRST prem season....swansea has 5 or 6 players who are still playing for prem clubs..we were ill prepared,and having got here,money was wasted...

Malky also spent a huge amount getting us up, so our squad should have been more capable I'm the prem but it wasn't, that was down to malky.
Then he wasted a load more money

Malky also spent a huge amount getting us up, so our squad should have been more capable I'm the prem but it wasn't, that was down to malky.
Then he wasted a load more money

he spent a fortune and signed almost 30 players in the two championship years.......compare the jack side that went up via play offs to our championship winning side.........the keeper they tried to keep..allen and sinclair got sold for 20mil..the striker was on loan but now plays prem.monk is manager 5 of the others are still regulars.......ffs that light years ahead of where we were going up................

and as you rightly say..........then he wasted even more money

Problem is Swansea went up with a style of play and bought players to fill that and it's worked.

Malky defended and played percentage football. Worked well I'm the championship and he deserves that praise but he never moved with the promotion. To many defensive players and not replacing the right players.

And then factor in a lunatic owner. Disaster on a plate. Cheers guys for the most depressing season since about 1986.
The fact of the matter is I've watched utter shite for decades but only now do I feel like never setting foot in the ground next season.
Coincidence? I dont think so Tan.

Problem is Swansea went up with a style of play and bought players to fill that and it's worked.

Malky defended and played percentage football. Worked well I'm the championship and he deserves that praise but he never moved with the promotion. To many defensive players and not replacing the right players.

he bought players not for their defensive qualities but for their willingness to give absolutely everything every game at the expense of their own game..
whats happening now was always going to happen.
we have a squad not used to playing creative football.and a defence that isnt used to defending without the extra bodies.
it got us further than i thought it would..but if that system/method could work at a higher level better teams than us would be doing it..............

Nobody was complaining about Malky's signings at the start of the season when we beat Man City and Fulham. Unfortunately, Tan started disrupting things early on and it was a miracle Malky was still able to keep us above the relegation zone all season with everything that went on. 7 out of the current top 9 in the league were already played at home, leaving us aside from Liverpool and Chelsea, the bottom half left to play at home for the second half of the season. I believe Malky would have picked up the results required at home in those games to not only avoid relegation, but steer us towards mid table, like Steve Bruce is doing with Hull.

I'm not denying Cornelius was a big flop, but even the best managers make mistakes sometimes, and Malky won us that Cornelius money by getting us to the Premiership in the first place anyway. I notice nobody is commented on Brayford these days, probably because we've all seen what a cracking player he looks on loan to Sheffield United at the moment, getting man of the match performances against Premiership opposition. Brayford is a funny one, Malky never played him and as soon as Ole came in, Brayford still had to leave, so I wonder if that's something to do with Tan perhaps?

But everything has gone pear shaped since Tan let his jealous ego influence his behaviour, disrupting things at any opportunity he could and eventually sacking Malky. Look where that has left us now.

Can you tell me what exactly went on? what was said by Tan? cheers

Where do you want me to start?

Before Tan undermined Malky by sacking Iain Moody and tried replacing him with Borat, he was disrupting things off the pitch. The rebrand and scarfgate last season, his "ungrateful customers" remark towards the fans, his failure to convert debt to equity, requesting players with the number 8 in their birth dates to be signed, questioning why our full backs and keeper haven't scored, interfering with team affairs such as getting notes passed to Malky during games etc. It was clear with their handshake after we beat Man City that all was not well. Tan continuously brings us negative press with his big mouth and constant interference. It's guaranteed our players can't always be in the correct mindset for some games and this was evident for the Southampton game that sealed Malky's fate.

If we get relegated, it's all Vincent Tan's fault.

So Tan wasn't disrupting the dressing room as some have claimed? Did he interfere with Malkys team selection and tactics?

Its gone quiet

Problem is Swansea went up with a style of play and bought players to fill that and it's worked.

Malky defended and played percentage football. Worked well I'm the championship and he deserves that praise but he never moved with the promotion. To many defensive players and not replacing the right players.

Tan approaches football admin the same as he does the business world. Based around concrete objectives. This is probably why we seen that style of play in order to get a quick promotion (short-term fix). Swansea was a long-term project not based around concrete objectives other than to concentrate on there brand of football - backing this will be the way to improve the club without bankrolling quick fix solutions.

Tan told Malky when he got the job he had 2 years to get to the PL? I don't like this type of admin for our club

Problem is Swansea went up with a style of play and bought players to fill that and it's worked.

Malky defended and played percentage football. Worked well I'm the championship and he deserves that praise but he never moved with the promotion. To many defensive players and not replacing the right players.

Tan approaches football admin the same as he does the business world. Based around concrete objectives. This is probably why we seen that style of play in order to get a quick promotion (short-term fix). Swansea was a long-term project not based around concrete objectives other than to concentrate on there brand of football - backing this will be the way to improve the club without bankrolling quick fix solutions.

Tan told Malky when he got the job he had 2 years to get to the PL? I don't like this type of admin for our club

every single club has objectives..they differ club to club but id be shocked if Malky ,even before meeting Tan was not aware of what was expected of him at this club........not just by Tan either.pretty much every fan expected him to gain promotion over 2 years, and most definately the 2nd year having been given a budget previous managers could only have dreamed of having

Problem is Swansea went up with a style of play and bought players to fill that and it's worked.

Malky defended and played percentage football. Worked well I'm the championship and he deserves that praise but he never moved with the promotion. To many defensive players and not replacing the right players.

Tan approaches football admin the same as he does the business world. Based around concrete objectives. This is probably why we seen that style of play in order to get a quick promotion (short-term fix). Swansea was a long-term project not based around concrete objectives other than to concentrate on there brand of football - backing this will be the way to improve the club without bankrolling quick fix solutions.

Tan told Malky when he got the job he had 2 years to get to the PL? I don't like this type of admin for our club

every single club has objectives..they differ club to club but id be shocked if Malky ,even before meeting Tan was not aware of what was expected of him at this club........not just by Tan either.pretty much every fan expected him to gain promotion over 2 years, and most definately the 2nd year having been given a budget previous managers could only have dreamed of having

Fair point that is true, everyone was aware, Malky knew his time-scale & the fans expected nothing less than a promotion in 2 years

40 million in this league is a joke, want to play with the big boys then you have to spend big boy money. The average price for a half decent PL player if at least 20 million, so for the owners to believe 40 million was going to be enough to keep us up is naive at best and reckless at worst, you reap what you sow in this world

40 million in this league is a joke, want to play with the big boys then you have to spend big boy money. The average price for a half decent PL player if at least 20 million, so for the owners to believe 40 million was going to be enough to keep us up is naive at best and reckless at worst, you reap what you sow in this world

What utter wank. Swansea spent £9m first season and finished 10th. Norwich and Southampton spent nowhere near what we did in their first season and survived comfortably. £40m was more than enough to keep us up if was spent wisely.

I'm a big Malky fan but even I have to admit the £40m could have been spent better. However, under Mackay, £25m of that £40m appeared to be a very sound investment with both Medel and Caulker looking like sure-fire candidates for player of the season. However, the other £15m could have been much better spent bringing in experienced Premier League players.

I still don't like how people keep using this issue to slag off Malky. We all know, anyone with sense does anyway, that Malky isn't the only person who fucked up this season.