Best post for awhile ' Ole should absolutely stay.'

Best post for awhile ' Ole should absolutely stay.'

Dve wrote:

Ole should absolutely stay. The result today doesn´t mirror our guy´s performance. We had 23 goal attempts, Hull had 11. We could have scored first, then the game would have been totally different. We could have gotten the penalties we deserved. Tan, forget about red being a lucky colour.

Some might want a "strong man" who can hair dry the players in the wardrobe, but the days are gone when this kind of management was effective. It might have been needed at the time when players entered the pitch stinking of alcohol, but a group of professionals don´t want a leader who doesn´t respect them as individuals. Being a totalitarian manager works as long as the results are good, but in the modern world, he looses the wardrobe the moment the team´s form drops.

If Ole only experience glory as a manager, I would have started getting worried by now. Being able to turn around a negative trend is an art of its own. And Ole showed twice with Molde that we has able to get things right when things were crapping up. In his first season at Molde, his team had a terrible start, but still they managed to win the league. After winning again the year after, Molde had a terrible first half of the season in this third attempt. The second half, they were the best and most winning team, and it was all topped by a great win in the cup.

People might thing that he is too nice for being a manager in the Premier league, but I don´t think the guys at our club is much different from people elsewhere. When this goes wrong, being yelled at doesn´t help a bit. There might not be time enough to rescue us from delegation, but we need to build for the long term if we want to be a stable Premier league club.

And people might wanna sack him because he´s "clueless about tactics". But what part of his tactics do you disagree on? Jones not being able to score 1 to 1 with the goalkeeper is not about tactics. A blind referee is not about tactics. If we were outplayed game after game, I would understand it, but that has not been the case. Wigan had one real chance, and scored two goals. You can blame him for not bringing in a top class striker, but surely he tried. The problem was that the price tags on the strikers we were hunting, were pure stupidity.

I will stand behind Ole. The players will stand behind Ole. And our luck will turn. Just you wait and see.

Well spoken!

We can't score a goal to save our lives... Something is wrong... The players just don't seem up for it... We've missed some chances the past few games that we would have put away earlier in the season.... With Malky screaming from the touch line I at least had the feeling he had passion and commitment to the cause... With OGS, I don't feel the passion, I feel like he could walk away at any moment and live a comfortable life in Norway again...

Agree ABSOLUTELY

Stupid thing is, a win and we are out of the relegation zone.

Saying that, where will the goals come from? Palace 18 goals. Us and Norwich 19 and Norwich play tomorrow

Sadly stats don't lie

We can't score a goal to save our lives... Something is wrong... The players just don't seem up for it... We've missed some chances the past few games that we would have put away earlier in the season.... With Malky screaming from the touch line I at least had the feeling he had passion and commitment to the cause... With OGS, I don't feel the passion, I feel like he could walk away at any moment and live a comfortable life in Norway again...

Great OP! I think this is unfair on the lad! He has only showed commitment and nothing else his hole life
He will never give up!... You are never stronger than your weakest link, and at the moment that is the fans..

Stupid thing is, a win and we are out of the relegation zone.

Saying that, where will the goals come from? Palace 18 goals. Us and Norwich 19 and Norwich play tomorrow

Sadly stats don't lie

If stats didnt lie we would have won today sir.

Best post for awhile ' Ole should absolutely stay.'

Dve wrote:

Ole should absolutely stay. The result today doesn´t mirror our guy´s performance. We had 23 goal attempts, Hull had 11. We could have scored first, then the game would have been totally different. We could have gotten the penalties we deserved. Tan, forget about red being a lucky colour.

Some might want a "strong man" who can hair dry the players in the wardrobe, but the days are gone when this kind of management was effective. It might have been needed at the time when players entered the pitch stinking of alcohol, but a group of professionals don´t want a leader who doesn´t respect them as individuals. Being a totalitarian manager works as long as the results are good, but in the modern world, he looses the wardrobe the moment the team´s form drops.

If Ole only experience glory as a manager, I would have started getting worried by now. Being able to turn around a negative trend is an art of its own. And Ole showed twice with Molde that we has able to get things right when things were crapping up. In his first season at Molde, his team had a terrible start, but still they managed to win the league. After winning again the year after, Molde had a terrible first half of the season in this third attempt. The second half, they were the best and most winning team, and it was all topped by a great win in the cup.

People might thing that he is too nice for being a manager in the Premier league, but I don´t think the guys at our club is much different from people elsewhere. When this goes wrong, being yelled at doesn´t help a bit. There might not be time enough to rescue us from delegation, but we need to build for the long term if we want to be a stable Premier league club.

And people might wanna sack him because he´s "clueless about tactics". But what part of his tactics do you disagree on? Jones not being able to score 1 to 1 with the goalkeeper is not about tactics. A blind referee is not about tactics. If we were outplayed game after game, I would understand it, but that has not been the case. Wigan had one real chance, and scored two goals. You can blame him for not bringing in a top class striker, but surely he tried. The problem was that the price tags on the strikers we were hunting, were pure stupidity.

I will stand behind Ole. The players will stand behind Ole. And our luck will turn. Just you wait and see.

Could have, should have, would have, DIDN'T. The excuses are starting to wear thin. Ole is the man in charge, he has to stand up and be counted. People are losing patience with him, and rightly so.

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

It's too late, but by now we can all see that whilst he wouldn't have been a fashionable choice Pullis has done a great job at Palace

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

Simple question you will not be able to answer! What is the difference between a fight for the title and relegation?

Ole is gettin us playing the right way, he just hasn't got the squad for that style to be as affective as it needs to be. With a summer transfer window, I think he could do some great work.

My only fear is how this style of football would actually work for us in the Championship. It's a tougher style of football...I'm not sure this style would work down there. That said, Swansea got promoted playing this way, so you never know.

Ole was just honest on match of the day. He said you cant take any positives from a match like today, especially when your playing teams that are around u and u get beat like that. "



Ole now says we need 5 wins from 11 games to survive.

Weve won 5 from our last 27 games.

We can't score a goal to save our lives... Something is wrong... The players just don't seem up for it... We've missed some chances the past few games that we would have put away earlier in the season.... With Malky screaming from the touch line I at least had the feeling he had passion and commitment to the cause... With OGS, I don't feel the passion, I feel like he could walk away at any moment and live a comfortable life in Norway again...

players are not up for it..................56% pos..23 shots to 12.........9 corners to 2

now maybe we havent got enough quality in certain areas.or need to work on a few things

but how can you dominate the play and not be trying?

we never dominated anything under MM btw.........but like summers wen we were children they seemed so much better eh

We had enough chances today to have won, but if we dont hit them we get beaten easy, thats the hard part to take.

We can't score a goal to save our lives... Something is wrong... The players just don't seem up for it... We've missed some chances the past few games that we would have put away earlier in the season.... With Malky screaming from the touch line I at least had the feeling he had passion and commitment to the cause... With OGS, I don't feel the passion, I feel like he could walk away at any moment and live a comfortable life in Norway again...

I'm a big Malky fan too, but when Malky was manager, there were many games we didn't even have any clear chances. At least Ole's boys are creating attempts. Perhaps the players can't convert those to goals or even shots on goal, but at least the boys are creating attempts. Both Malky's and Ole's defenses suck, but I'd rather have a sucky defense and actually try to score than to have a sucky defense and have the only possibility of scoring come off a set piece. Again, I'm a big Malky fan, but there's no denying the boys are trying to get up the field more now. Its just not hitting the back of the net for us.

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

Simple question you will not be able to answer! What is the difference between a fight for the title and relegation?

Don't accuse me of not being able to answer a question - especially when the question is so f*cking stupid

The pressure of a relegation battle is huge - every point lost is a huge blow, you have to keep team moral up through a difficult period and the result of failure is a loss of club earnings, relegation into a different league and a realisation that you can't cut it in the big league

A title challenge you have no fear of relegation - you have nothing to lose. There are other great teams you are playing against and you are relishing the challenge of the big fixtures- not fearing them. If you don't quite get the title challenge then you have an opportunity next season and you learn from mistakes whilst your club still retains top league status, champions league places and big money from the premier league

I honestly cannot believe the stupidity of your question - get real

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

Simple question you will not be able to answer! What is the difference between a fight for the title and relegation?

Don't accuse me of not being able to answer a question - especially when the question is so f*cking stupid

The pressure of a relegation battle is huge - every point lost is a huge blow, you have to keep team moral up through a difficult period and the result of failure is a loss of club earnings, relegation into a different league and a realisation that you can't cut it in the big league

A title challenge you have no fear of relegation - you have nothing to lose. There are other great teams you are playing against and you are relishing the challenge of the big fixtures- not fearing them. If you don't quite get the title challenge then you have an opportunity next season and you learn from mistakes whilst your club still retains top league status, champions league places and big money from the premier league

I honestly cannot believe the stupidity of your question - get real

Touchet! I knew you couldn't separate them Do you think negative and positive anxiety effect your judgement in any different way? You actually believe it`s less important to win than loose? If it where, we would not have this discussion mate

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

Simple question you will not be able to answer! What is the difference between a fight for the title and relegation?

Don't accuse me of not being able to answer a question - especially when the question is so f*cking stupid

The pressure of a relegation battle is huge - every point lost is a huge blow, you have to keep team moral up through a difficult period and the result of failure is a loss of club earnings, relegation into a different league and a realisation that you can't cut it in the big league

A title challenge you have no fear of relegation - you have nothing to lose. There are other great teams you are playing against and you are relishing the challenge of the big fixtures- not fearing them. If you don't quite get the title challenge then you have an opportunity next season and you learn from mistakes whilst your club still retains top league status, champions league places and big money from the premier league

I honestly cannot believe the stupidity of your question - get real

Touchet! I knew you couldn't separate them Do you think negative and positive anxiety effect your judgement in any different way? You actually believe it`s less important to win than loose? If it where, we would not have this discussion mate

Pipe down you clueless idiot - come back to me when you have something sensible to say

How people can be so far in denial escapes me

Tans gamble hasn't worked - in sacking Malky and getting an inexperienced manager in he has given us no hope for survival in the best league in the world

I don't blame OGS - he had a shot at the big league on fantastic money and it was a chance for him to improve his career

What was tan/tans advisors thinking when they appointed an inexperienced manager for a relegation dogfight?!

Even as a player he never experienced the threat of relegation and his "attacking style" of football is outdated in the premierleague and has resulted in a leaky defence and a poor attacking strategy

Tan out - OGS work a way to get us out of the championship and into the Prem for the 2015/16 season

Simple question you will not be able to answer! What is the difference between a fight for the title and relegation?

Don't accuse me of not being able to answer a question - especially when the question is so f*cking stupid

The pressure of a relegation battle is huge - every point lost is a huge blow, you have to keep team moral up through a difficult period and the result of failure is a loss of club earnings, relegation into a different league and a realisation that you can't cut it in the big league

A title challenge you have no fear of relegation - you have nothing to lose. There are other great teams you are playing against and you are relishing the challenge of the big fixtures- not fearing them. If you don't quite get the title challenge then you have an opportunity next season and you learn from mistakes whilst your club still retains top league status, champions league places and big money from the premier league

I honestly cannot believe the stupidity of your question - get real

Touchet! I knew you couldn't separate them Do you think negative and positive anxiety effect your judgement in any different way? You actually believe it`s less important to win than loose? If it where, we would not have this discussion mate

Pipe down you clueless idiot - come back to me when you have something sensible to say

Well, i just did mate. Give it a read and a think will you? Its all in the books if you will bother to open them

Changing manager and style was always going to be a risk. I never thought Malky should have gone but he has and this is where we are.

Ole is a great man and a good coach but we so in transition and still just not good enough. We are probably heading down now but with a full summer behind him Ole will have a great chance to do amazing things next season.

Let's give him our full support, he has walked into a bit of mess and is solving it but probably not quickly enough to stay up. Our football is improving I feel though today showed there is a long way to go. Yes Malky would have ground out a better result but we still could have lost.

Ole is the future, lets get right behind the boys this and next season!

Changing manager and style was always going to be a risk. I never thought Malky should have gone but he has and this is where we are.

Ole is a great man and a good coach but we so in transition and still just not good enough. We are probably heading down now but with a full summer behind him Ole will have a great chance to do amazing things next season.

Let's give him our full support, he has walked into a bit of mess and is solving it but probably not quickly enough to stay up. Our football is improving I feel though today showed there is a long way to go. Yes Malky would have ground out a better result but we still could have lost.

Ole is the future, lets get right behind the boys this and next season!

Well said

So, what do you suggest? Sack Ole and see if someone else might be able to rescue us? And if not? Sack him as well? Then, sack the next one?

I understand that people are angry and want to see blood after a terrible defeat as today, but making decisions in anger was never smart. We can blame the defeat on wrong tactics, but what would you have done different? The goals we did not score today, and the goals we let in were mainly results of personal mistakes done by the players - not the manager.

I honestly believe that tactics in football are overrated, as there are so many other factors that play just as big a part - i.e. psychology. E.g. why are some teams always winning at home, but rarely away? Same grass, same ball, same skills.

Remember, that Cardiff was used to winning when we entered PL, and therefore we kicked off quite pretty this season, but unfortunately, in the long run good habits need to be supported by a certain level of skills. Maybe different tactics would have gained us a point more here and there, but we would have been deep into the relegation battle whatsoever. We could have placed 9 men in defence, and maybe spent all our money on some gladiators to earn us a few 0-0 games, but then again, what about next season? And the season after that? Do we want to compete, or not?

The trend has been negative for a while now, and every defeat makes it more difficult to win the next game. Still, what I see is players that are really trying. You cannot take that away from them. They are trying to do the right things, and they are almost making it work. I´m not trying to make excuses, but a bit of luck would have contributed to reverse the trend. Winning a few games, makes it easier to win the next one.

I think Ole has a plan. Or, not Ole; the club has a plan. Surviving in the PL this year might not be a must. Instead, we are seaking talents. Buying young talented players for the future. That´s why Ole took the job in the first place - despite the fact that everyone advised him not to - with the crazy sacking-loving owner. He was promised that he WOULDN`T get sacked, even if we were relegated. He was promised time enough to see his talents flourish. Tan agreed to that. So, maybe the man is not that crazy after all.

So, what about the fans?

We can't score a goal to save our lives... Something is wrong... The players just don't seem up for it... We've missed some chances the past few games that we would have put away earlier in the season.... With Malky screaming from the touch line I at least had the feeling he had passion and commitment to the cause... With OGS, I don't feel the passion, I feel like he could walk away at any moment and live a comfortable life in Norway again...

No, we can't score at the moment but, I also feel, if we get the 1st goal, we'll kick on! We aren't getting that stroke of luck.
Believe me, OGS has the passion, I find it unbelievable y/how u disbelieve OGS!

Best post for awhile ' Ole should absolutely stay.'

Dve wrote:

Ole should absolutely stay. The result today doesn´t mirror our guy´s performance. We had 23 goal attempts, Hull had 11. We could have scored first, then the game would have been totally different. We could have gotten the penalties we deserved. Tan, forget about red being a lucky colour.

Some might want a "strong man" who can hair dry the players in the wardrobe, but the days are gone when this kind of management was effective. It might have been needed at the time when players entered the pitch stinking of alcohol, but a group of professionals don´t want a leader who doesn´t respect them as individuals. Being a totalitarian manager works as long as the results are good, but in the modern world, he looses the wardrobe the moment the team´s form drops.

If Ole only experience glory as a manager, I would have started getting worried by now. Being able to turn around a negative trend is an art of its own. And Ole showed twice with Molde that we has able to get things right when things were crapping up. In his first season at Molde, his team had a terrible start, but still they managed to win the league. After winning again the year after, Molde had a terrible first half of the season in this third attempt. The second half, they were the best and most winning team, and it was all topped by a great win in the cup.

People might thing that he is too nice for being a manager in the Premier league, but I don´t think the guys at our club is much different from people elsewhere. When this goes wrong, being yelled at doesn´t help a bit. There might not be time enough to rescue us from delegation, but we need to build for the long term if we want to be a stable Premier league club.

And people might wanna sack him because he´s "clueless about tactics". But what part of his tactics do you disagree on? Jones not being able to score 1 to 1 with the goalkeeper is not about tactics. A blind referee is not about tactics. If we were outplayed game after game, I would understand it, but that has not been the case. Wigan had one real chance, and scored two goals. You can blame him for not bringing in a top class striker, but surely he tried. The problem was that the price tags on the strikers we were hunting, were pure stupidity.

I will stand behind Ole. The players will stand behind Ole. And our luck will turn. Just you wait and see.

Cobblers - the guy is out of his depth. As for his signings of Jones, Fabio, Berget and Zaha don't get me started!

We haven't scored a goal in 4 premier league games... It's ok saying that we're having all these chances and possession etc., but it's totally irrelevant unless we can score! We seem afraid to shoot at times, or the crosses whipped in don't seem to find anyone, and we're passing it around and around rather than going direct...

We might be passing a bit better but that's also leading to mistakes as we saw today on a couple of occasions today - leading to goals... Right now I feel we could have played another 3 hours an not scored... So something is wrong somewhere as these guys are paid to score goals... It's ok saying the goals will come but they are not, and time is running out. I would love us to turn it around and will be at Spurs hoping for the best, so let's hope the players will have a kick up the arse and at least score a goal against spurs!

By the way - In the 8 Premier League games that OGS has been in for, we have conceded 18 and scored 4!

Cardiff
0-4
Hull

Cardiff
0-0
Aston Villa

Swansea
3-0
Cardiff

Cardiff
2-1
Norwich

Man Utd
2-0
Cardiff

Man City
4-2
Cardiff

Cardiff
0-2
West Ham

Arsenal
2-0
Cardiff

I respect your optimism in the first post, but I've seen absolutely nothing in Ole to suggest he has what it takes to succeed with us. We started bad against West Ham and nothing what so ever has improved since then, if anything, its got worse.

Ole has not got a clue what he is doing. For a relegation battle we need a settled team and to be well organised. Ole has changed the back four so many times its no wonder we are conceding so many, there is no consistency. Trying to play attacking football when you cannot defend is suicidal as it proved yet again yesterday. From the minute the team sheet went up I knew we'd lose just as I did against Swansea. He should have kept faith with the same back four that kept a clean sheet against Villa, instead of that he totally rips the defence apart. He should have played 451, playing 442 was always going to leave us to lightweight in midfield.

I'm sorry but ole is out of his depth, yesterday was shocking and unacceptable.

I would rather lose 4-0 the way we played yesterday than lose 1-0 with all 11 players behind the v
Ball defending for 90 minutes I just can't see where the goals are going to come from as our strikers a very low on confidence

Nice to see all the LOYAL supporters left in the canton at the final whistle last night

I thought this was a joke post when I seen the thread title

Punchline: In Norway