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Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:45 am

This is what happens when you are one of the worst teams in the league and try to play open attractive football. The amount of people on here that were crying out for Malky's 'negativity' to be replaced by an attack minded manager was nothing short of crazy. Well now you have it, what's the outcome? Our confidence has never been lower, we get outplayed every week and our ability to scrap our way to points doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Now we have an attack minded manager, we are more exposed than ever and don't seem to have addressed our goal drought issues. Some people's expectation levels are crazy, we were never going to take this league by storm, anyone predicting anything other than a relegation dogfight is either extremely optimistic or has no real idea about football. It was never going to be pretty, but hey at least we can watch a few Zaha stepovers as we get relegated. :ayatollah:

I will give Ole a chance but so far I am not impressed, anyone who is involved in a relegation dogfight and presents Kenwyne Jones as a solution needs their head seeing to. A couple of our signings look decent, but on the whole, he has signed a lot of lightweight players who don't look ready for a relegation dogfight. Physically, we are a lot weaker than we have been for years, especially in midfield.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:54 am

Nobody hates Malky so lets just clear that up.

I wanted him replaced as I was and still are convinced we were going down. IF we go down now at least it will be having a go. The Aston Villa game was the most enjoyment Ive had since Wolves at the beginning of last season. Not overly bothered what league we are in, Ive already renewed and look forward to some real football....the game I fell in love with.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:04 pm

There was a lot of anti-Malky stuff on here and in the stadium. Maybe hate is a strong word, but in my opinion the ones calling for him to be sacked acted disgracefully and showed signs of bottling being a fan in a relegation scrap.

To be honest I haven;t really enjoyed a home game for quite some time, however I would rather watch a 0-0 stalemate where our players wear their hearts on their sleeves and battle for each other for 90 minutes, than a bunch of overpaid fairies who have no loyalty to Cardiff and fanny out of challenges. Kenwyne Jones, Zaha, Fabio etc, have no loyalty to Cardiff, they are here to pick up a premiership wage. Do you think they will lose sleep like us fans if we get relegated? Will they f**k.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:09 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:There was a lot of anti-Malky stuff on here and in the stadium. Maybe hate is a strong word, but in my opinion the ones calling for him to be sacked acted disgracefully and showed signs of bottling being a fan in a relegation scrap.

To be honest I haven;t really enjoyed a home game for quite some time, however I would rather watch a 0-0 stalemate where our players wear their hearts on their sleeves and battle for each other for 90 minutes, than a bunch of overpaid fairies who have no loyalty to Cardiff and fanny out of challenges. Kenwyne Jones, Zaha, Fabio etc, have no loyalty to Cardiff, they are here to pick up a premiership wage. Do you think they will lose sleep like us fans if we get relegated? Will they f**k.

So Malky bought players who cared about the club??? All any player cares about is the paycheck. Irrelevant who signed them. Im ignoring this thread now as you seem to have gone off to cuckoo land.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:10 pm

There are several on here who hate Malky. Totally unnecessary too.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:14 pm

Good lad, seeing as u spout some of the biggest load of crap on this forum, I was kinda hoping for the input of some posters who actually like a good debate and discussion. I did not state Malky only bought players who care about the club at any point. WHy don't you use the time you are saving by ignoring this thread to go and find your missing chromosome :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:15 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:There are several on here who hate Malky. Totally unnecessary too.


I can't understand it to be honest, yes he made some mistakes but he can leave this club with his head held high, and will go down as one of the best all time Cardiff managers!

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:16 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:Good lad, seeing as u spout some of the biggest load of crap on this forum, I was kinda hoping for the input of some posters who actually like a good debate and discussion. I did not state Malky only bought players who care about the club at any point. WHy don't you use the time you are saving by ignoring this thread to go and find your missing chromosome :ayatollah:

Yes you did. You claimed Oles signings had no loyalty and you preferred Malkys as they cared. You wrote that, not me.

What a plum.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:18 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:There are several on here who hate Malky. Totally unnecessary too.


I can't understand it to be honest, yes he made some mistakes but he can leave this club with his head held high, and will go down as one of the best all time Cardiff managers!


Spot on sir. We enjoyed total success under Malky & I cannot fathom how some can hate the man so much for it.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:22 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:Good lad, seeing as u spout some of the biggest load of crap on this forum, I was kinda hoping for the input of some posters who actually like a good debate and discussion. I did not state Malky only bought players who care about the club at any point. WHy don't you use the time you are saving by ignoring this thread to go and find your missing chromosome :ayatollah:

Yes you did. You claimed Oles signings had no loyalty and you preferred Malkys as they cared. You wrote that, not me.

What a plum.


I thought you were ignoring this thread? I did not state that at any point, your lack of intelligence due to your missing chromosome has led you to interpret something in your own way, and as per usual you make yourself look like an argumentative, ignorant retard! :roll:

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:24 pm

Do you really want to start a tit for tat abuse thread? I will win hands down. If so pm me so this thread doesnt get derailed please.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:30 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:This is what happens when you are one of the worst teams in the league and try to play open attractive football. The amount of people on here that were crying out for Malky's 'negativity' to be replaced by an attack minded manager was nothing short of crazy. Well now you have it, what's the outcome? Our confidence has never been lower, we get outplayed every week and our ability to scrap our way to points doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Now we have an attack minded manager, we are more exposed than ever and don't seem to have addressed our goal drought issues. Some people's expectation levels are crazy, we were never going to take this league by storm, anyone predicting anything other than a relegation dogfight is either extremely optimistic or has no real idea about football. It was never going to be pretty, but hey at least we can watch a few Zaha stepovers as we get relegated. :ayatollah:

I will give Ole a chance but so far I am not impressed, anyone who is involved in a relegation dogfight and presents Kenwyne Jones as a solution needs their head seeing to. A couple of our signings look decent, but on the whole, he has signed a lot of lightweight players who don't look ready for a relegation dogfight. Physically, we are a lot weaker than we have been for years, especially in midfield.


Totally agree mate. I will always stick up for Malky and it's clear to see we are a lot worse off now. At least we were battling and fighting for points under Malky. But now, it doesn't seem we have the passion or guts for a relegation battle anymore.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:32 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Do you really want to start a tit for tat abuse thread? I will win hands down. If so pm me so this thread doesnt get derailed please.


No I don't want this thread to be derailed by abuse, my apologies. However could you ignore this thread from now on like you said, so we can get some intelligent debate started. Cheers and sorry for abusing you :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:34 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:This is what happens when you are one of the worst teams in the league and try to play open attractive football. The amount of people on here that were crying out for Malky's 'negativity' to be replaced by an attack minded manager was nothing short of crazy. Well now you have it, what's the outcome? Our confidence has never been lower, we get outplayed every week and our ability to scrap our way to points doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Now we have an attack minded manager, we are more exposed than ever and don't seem to have addressed our goal drought issues. Some people's expectation levels are crazy, we were never going to take this league by storm, anyone predicting anything other than a relegation dogfight is either extremely optimistic or has no real idea about football. It was never going to be pretty, but hey at least we can watch a few Zaha stepovers as we get relegated. :ayatollah:

I will give Ole a chance but so far I am not impressed, anyone who is involved in a relegation dogfight and presents Kenwyne Jones as a solution needs their head seeing to. A couple of our signings look decent, but on the whole, he has signed a lot of lightweight players who don't look ready for a relegation dogfight. Physically, we are a lot weaker than we have been for years, especially in midfield.


Totally agree mate. I will always stick up for Malky and it's clear to see we are a lot worse off now. At least we were battling and fighting for points under Malky. But now, it doesn't seem we have the passion or guts for a relegation battle anymore.


Agree completely, we definitely have lost a competitive edge and a bit of fight, and I hope with hindsight, VT sees what an awful mess he has made of this season and his time with us in general

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:38 pm

I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:46 pm

RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


Agreed, maybe hate is a strong word, however he did receive a large amount of abuse in his final few weeks and months with us.

A couple of his signings were awful, but on the whole he was a fantastic servant to us, and a voice of reason among a club full of clowns. He did conduct himself well during the whole saga, and I felt really sorry for him when first his employers turned on him, then some of our own fans.

I was at the Palace game and agree that it was the wrong team selection and they completely outplayed us. That was a low point agreed, but I will concentrate on the cup final, play off's, and title, and when looking back at Malky's time here, it will be with only fond memories! :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:48 pm

(steve davies) posted that the players referred to him as Milky


hmmmmm, no wonder they played so well for him

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:50 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:(steve davies) posted that the players referred to him as Milky


hmmmmm, no wonder they played so well for him


One day it will all come out and we will know the truth, I guess we are used to being kept in the dark as City fans!!

I like your avatar, tell me are they your first or second team?

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:52 pm

RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


Spot on. To much money wasted on players that added nothing to the team. Under malky we won, drew and lost, its the same under Ole, there has been no consistency all year. The team has been poor from start to finish, no manager would be able to keep us up IMO.

The only difference under Ole is atleast we are winning, drawing and losing playing more exciting football, rather than stick 10 men behind the ball and nick a goal, I would prefer going down trying to attack rather than go down with a wimper malky style. He totally burnt out the players similar to last season when we were dire towards the end because every1 was fukt from defending all season and nicking a set piece, over half our goals were scored from a set piece last season staggering statistic, not the type of football I pay my money to watch glad he's gone, but thank you malky for all you done no hard feelings.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:53 pm

RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:58 pm

Everytime I ask this nobody answers.

How were we hard to beat under Malky???
When he left only Crystal palace had a poorer defensive record and only Fulham had a worse goalscoring record. We played the top teams at home so from a defensive point of view that was easier than facing them away.

Can someone please answer this total myth.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:59 pm

[q]="Tonteg Bluebird"]
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.[/quote]


Fantastic post and absolutely spot on, we had a great chance of survival under malky

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:02 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.


Ole has picked up a win and a draw against 2 of the bottom half teams, losing against a west ham team we were all over, if kim bo shot went over the line we would of won IMO. So their records are not that much different, I'm sure the points total between Ole and malky will be pretty much the same come the end of the season. The only difference is atleast we are playing more attacking football under Ole rather than park the bus and nick a set piece like against Swansea and many other teams. We also beat Newcastle away in the cup which we would never of done under malky IMO.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:10 pm

super kev legend wrote:[q]="Tonteg Bluebird"]
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.



Fantastic post and absolutely spot on, we had a great chance of survival under malky[/quote]

Totally agree

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:13 pm

Jorn Schwinkendorf wrote:There was a lot of anti-Malky stuff on here and in the stadium. Maybe hate is a strong word, but in my opinion the ones calling for him to be sacked acted disgracefully and showed signs of bottling being a fan in a relegation scrap.

To be honest I haven;t really enjoyed a home game for quite some time, however I would rather watch a 0-0 stalemate where our players wear their hearts on their sleeves and battle for each other for 90 minutes, than a bunch of overpaid fairies who have no loyalty to Cardiff and fanny out of challenges. Kenwyne Jones, Zaha, Fabio etc, have no loyalty to Cardiff, they are here to pick up a premiership wage. Do you think they will lose sleep like us fans if we get relegated? Will they f**k.


Malky played our fans for fools. He used the media as his weapon against Tan and our fans followed like sheep to back him up. Do you honestly think Malky managed us out of pure love for the club? :lol:

Malky will beat the same drum when/if he becomes Norwich's boss, best fans around, loyal, passionate, noisy blah blah blah. He's obviously had a crash course in how to deal with press conferences & interviews.

P.s im not a Malky hater, big thanks for what he done for us but i moved on the day he was sacked.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.


We lost 3-0 at home under malky against Southampton :? 2-0 away palace :? 4-1 to Chelsea :? 2-0 to west ham :? 3-0 to arsenal :? 2-0 to villa :? 3-1 to Liverpool :? So that's 19 goals from 7 games, malky leaked goals like a tap.

Ole has conceded 14 goals from his first 7 games.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.



If we were so difficult to break down why was our defensive record so bad?

The results he did get, Man City - lost to Sunderland away, Swansea - obviously very poor under Laudrup for large spells, West Brom - immediately sacked their manager, Fulham - Manager sacking spree. His Prem results don't exactly set us apart from anyone else.

I'm not trying to be negative here he had tremendous good points and his tenure should be remembered fondly he is easily the best manager the club has had for decades. But he shouldn't get a pass on his negative attributes. Ole doesn't either many of his decisions have been very strange but there we go.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Kenfig Blue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.


We lost 3-0 at home under malky against Southampton :? 2-0 away palace :? 4-1 to Chelsea :? 2-0 to west ham :? 3-0 to arsenal :? 2-0 to villa :? 3-1 to Liverpool :? So that's 19 goals from 7 games, malky leaked goals like a tap.

Ole has conceded 14 goals from his first 7 games.


1-0 wins at home to Swansea and West Brom, that's 0 goals conceded in 2 games. Surely you can't list the Southampton game, Tan's disruption with the email, 45 minute protest at Anfield etc caused that. We also played very well at Chelsea and home to Arsenal and only conceded late goals because we went for an equaliser. Yes, Malky wasn't sitting back, he attacked at Chelsea, taking Medel off and putting Kim on at 1-1! Still, focus on all the negatives (which Tan undoubtedly contributed to with his off the pitch disruption) to suit your agenda. :thumbup:

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:33 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Everytime I ask this nobody answers.

How were we hard to beat under Malky???
When he left only Crystal palace had a poorer defensive record and only Fulham had a worse goalscoring record. We played the top teams at home so from a defensive point of view that was easier than facing them away.

Can someone please answer this total myth.

Re: Malky Haters

Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:39 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
RFMH wrote:I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.


I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.


We lost 3-0 at home under malky against Southampton :? 2-0 away palace :? 4-1 to Chelsea :? 2-0 to west ham :? 3-0 to arsenal :? 2-0 to villa :? 3-1 to Liverpool :? So that's 19 goals from 7 games, malky leaked goals like a tap.

Ole has conceded 14 goals from his first 7 games.


1-0 wins at home to Swansea and West Brom, that's 0 goals conceded in 2 games. Surely you can't list the Southampton game, Tan's disruption with the email, 45 minute protest at Anfield etc caused that. We also played very well at Chelsea and home to Arsenal and only conceded late goals because we went for an equaliser. Yes, Malky wasn't sitting back, he attacked at Chelsea, taking Medel off and putting Kim on at 1-1! Still, focus on all the negatives (which Tan undoubtedly contributed to with his off the pitch disruption) to suit your agenda. :thumbup:


Malky was in charge during the 3-0 drubbing at home by Southampton, it was Malkys job to organise the team as he was still being paid to do so, malky should of put the team first not him, if he cannot set up a team because an email has been sent to him then he's a weaker manager than I thought.

So going by your method, does that mean 1 of west hams goals do not count because we were all out attack looking for the equaliser :lol: