BRITISH POUNDS OR AMERICAN DOLLARS ?

I got sent the following and was asked for my opinion on it.

To be honest I am not sure if it is anything other than just a theory but it is an interesting theory all the same.

What are your opinions on it?

The conversion rate has changed since the transfer.


As we both now, in reality the scout (Moody) recommends the player to the manager (Malky), who in turn decides whether he would like him and then passes his recommendation to the CEO (Lim). From there he decides on what the club can afford and the offer is made to the selling club and the agent/player concerned.

Now Lim/Tan have gone public to state that Moody/Malky were entirely responsible for the signing of Andreas Cornelius and then also the finances that went with the deal!

Ok, if Moody and Malky were responsible, then they would deal in GBP. Malaysia as a country, not just Tan but internationally deal in American dollars, so, lets look at the breakdown.

Wages at £45 a week. Why £45k? Why not a round figure of £50k?

£45k in American dollars is $75k a week! A ROUND FIGURE!
£863k agents fee? In American dollars that $1.5m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£1.25M signing on fee? In American dollars that is $2m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£7.668M Transfer fee? In American Dollars that is $13m, add to that the signing on fee of
$2m = a total transfer fee of $15m! A ROUND FIGURE!

Therefore, it is too much of a coincidence that all these figures are rounded up nicely in American dollars to suggest it was non other than Lim/Tan who took care of the financial offerings of the deal.

Interesting one that

Doesn't matter in my eyes.

If Malky said to Lim this is the player that will keep us up then Lim would go all out to get him.

Why is $75, 000 a week a more round figure than £45, 000 pounds?

I got sent the following and was asked for my opinion on it.

To be honest I am not sure if it is anything other than just a theory but it is an interesting theory all the same.

What are your opinions on it?

The conversion rate has changed since the transfer.


As we both now, in reality the scout (Moody) recommends the player to the manager (Malky), who in turn decides whether he would like him and then passes his recommendation to the CEO (Lim). From there he decides on what the club can afford and the offer is made to the selling club and the agent/player concerned.

Now Lim/Tan have gone public to state that Moody/Malky were entirely responsible for the signing of Andreas Cornelius and then also the finances that went with the deal!

Ok, if Moody and Malky were responsible, then they would deal in GBP. Malaysia as a country, not just Tan but internationally deal in American dollars, so, lets look at the breakdown.

Wages at £45 a week. Why £45k? Why not a round figure of £50k?

£45k in American dollars is $75k a week! A ROUND FIGURE!
£863k agents fee? In American dollars that $1.5m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£1.25M signing on fee? In American dollars that is $2m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£7.668M Transfer fee? In American Dollars that is $13m, add to that the signing on fee of
$2m = a total transfer fee of $15m! A ROUND FIGURE!

Therefore, it is too much of a coincidence that all these figures are rounded up nicely in American dollars to suggest it was non other than Lim/Tan who took care of the financial offerings of the deal.

........except that all the exchange rates are different in each calculation.

Why is $75, 000 a week a more round figure than £45, 000 pounds?

Thought that myself.

But that aside the rest was interesting.

With all due respect it is nonsense! We are looking for bogies when we had a nose bleed!

With all due respect it is nonsense! We are looking for bogies when we had a nose bleed!

As stated it was sent to me, I think it is nothing more than a theory but I thought I would get other peoples opinions on it.

I got sent the following and was asked for my opinion on it.

To be honest I am not sure if it is anything other than just a theory but it is an interesting theory all the same.

What are your opinions on it?

The conversion rate has changed since the transfer.


As we both now, in reality the scout (Moody) recommends the player to the manager (Malky), who in turn decides whether he would like him and then passes his recommendation to the CEO (Lim). From there he decides on what the club can afford and the offer is made to the selling club and the agent/player concerned.

Now Lim/Tan have gone public to state that Moody/Malky were entirely responsible for the signing of Andreas Cornelius and then also the finances that went with the deal!

Ok, if Moody and Malky were responsible, then they would deal in GBP. Malaysia as a country, not just Tan but internationally deal in American dollars, so, lets look at the breakdown.

Wages at £45 a week. Why £45k? Why not a round figure of £50k?

£45k in American dollars is $75k a week! A ROUND FIGURE!
£863k agents fee? In American dollars that $1.5m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£1.25M signing on fee? In American dollars that is $2m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£7.668M Transfer fee? In American Dollars that is $13m, add to that the signing on fee of
$2m = a total transfer fee of $15m! A ROUND FIGURE!

Therefore, it is too much of a coincidence that all these figures are rounded up nicely in American dollars to suggest it was non other than Lim/Tan who took care of the financial offerings of the deal.

........except that all the exchange rates are different in each calculation.

They are now yes. But all very close. In fact too close to say they probably would have been correct when the deal was done!

Tan/ lim financed andrie on moody malky say so bad buy end of

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

Live and work in the US. Exchange rate at that time was around $1.55 to a pound. Using a Forex house rather than a High Street exchange, you could probably get a rate of $1.60 to the pound at that time. However, that's based on a couple of thousand changing bank accounts rather than millions. Tan would have secured a better rate. So the theory is almost certainly bogus. And why is there 2 signing on fees?

Simple answer is that Malky and Moody made a poor purchase and Lim has miraculously managed to absolve himself of all blame.

Last edited by AntEvans on Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Carl, I respect your devotion Cardiff. City. You are obviously a committed fan who goes out of his way to allow,other like minded fans to follow their passion. I take my metaphorical hat off to you.
However, all theories, hypotheses must be supported by hard evidence, until I see that evidence,'please,respect my right to be cynical, I have supported Cardiff City for over 40' years.
I know my football history, Cardiff City have a brighter future than their past!

US Dollars are the world currency. Millions of deals around the world every day are in US dollars. From barrels of oil to sheepskin. Don't know what different it would make, how would it tell us who wanted him to start with? Was the Medal deal in euro, pounds or US dollar?

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

I am guessing you are aiming your post at me because of the op but I have said it is not my theory, it was sent to me and I was asked for an opinion.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a theory, end of.

I posted it to see what others opinions are.

Pounds are nice & colourful but dollars have a nice smell to them. That's my theory.

It doesn't matter pounds or dollars he was shite

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

I am guessing you are aiming your post at me because of the op but I have said it is not my theory, it was sent to me and I was asked for an opinion.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a theory, end off.

I posted it to see what others opinions are.

yes you said..............but a lot of posts seem to be attempting to deflect this signing away from our then manager.
Malky for his part still stands by the signing...............
it looks like this is going to court...........im sure we will find out then.
but have to say.........Tan seems determined, he obviously feels strongly about something.

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

I am guessing you are aiming your post at me because of the op but I have said it is not my theory, it was sent to me and I was asked for an opinion.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a theory, end off.

I posted it to see what others opinions are.

yes you said..............but a lot of posts seem to be attempting to deflect this signing away from our then manager.
Malky for his part still stands by the signing...............
it looks like this is going to court...........im sure we will find out then.
but have to say.........Tan seems determined, he obviously feels strongly about something.

At the end of the day my thoughts are that Malky wanted the player and the club got him.

I said at the time of signing it was an astronomical amount for such a young player.

My gripe with Tan/Lim would be that they can't claim they didn't know the figures involved as they signed the deal off.

I got sent the following and was asked for my opinion on it.

To be honest I am not sure if it is anything other than just a theory but it is an interesting theory all the same.

What are your opinions on it?

The conversion rate has changed since the transfer.


As we both now, in reality the scout (Moody) recommends the player to the manager (Malky), who in turn decides whether he would like him and then passes his recommendation to the CEO (Lim). From there he decides on what the club can afford and the offer is made to the selling club and the agent/player concerned.

Now Lim/Tan have gone public to state that Moody/Malky were entirely responsible for the signing of Andreas Cornelius and then also the finances that went with the deal!

Ok, if Moody and Malky were responsible, then they would deal in GBP. Malaysia as a country, not just Tan but internationally deal in American dollars, so, lets look at the breakdown.

Wages at £45 a week. Why £45k? Why not a round figure of £50k?

£45k in American dollars is $75k a week! A ROUND FIGURE!
£863k agents fee? In American dollars that $1.5m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£1.25M signing on fee? In American dollars that is $2m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£7.668M Transfer fee? In American Dollars that is $13m, add to that the signing on fee of
$2m = a total transfer fee of $15m! A ROUND FIGURE!

Therefore, it is too much of a coincidence that all these figures are rounded up nicely in American dollars to suggest it was non other than Lim/Tan who took care of the financial offerings of the deal.

f**k me it's Miss Marple.

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

I am guessing you are aiming your post at me because of the op but I have said it is not my theory, it was sent to me and I was asked for an opinion.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a theory, end off.

I posted it to see what others opinions are.

yes you said..............but a lot of posts seem to be attempting to deflect this signing away from our then manager.
Malky for his part still stands by the signing...............
it looks like this is going to court...........im sure we will find out then.
but have to say.........Tan seems determined, he obviously feels strongly about something.

At the end of the day my thoughts are that Malky wanted the player and the club got him.

I said at the time of signing it was an astronomical amount for such a young player.

My gripe with Tan/Lim would be that they can't claim they didn't know the figures involved as they signed the deal off.

i was gobsmacked myself......and no matter how many times i watched his goals on you tube..i doubted,but kept telling myself they {MandM} know better than me............i am sure many City fans doubted,as i did,but convinced themselves you dont pay that sort of money unless he really is the deal.........
disappointed doesnt begin to explain how i feel about what my club got for 8 mill,and its not my 8 mill.
my take is...if Tan is pissed at what we got for the money,he has every right to be.
i dont really see how he can be pissed at the amount itself....because as you say someone else signed it off...

Interesting theory.

If anybody thinks billionaire business people do there business by rounding there deals into nice neat numbers they are dull as f**k.

If anything the numbers get rounded off in the press. It's a lot simpler to say he cost 1 million pounds compared to saying £993,561.32

If your a decent business person you'll haggle to get every last penny off a deal not f*cking round them up

I am Simon Lim & fed up with customers trying to undermine me!! I know about economics and lots of other stuff so get your facts straight..while you all were sucking on you mammy's tit, I was racing around singapore on a tuk tuk to get where I am today. Just you all remember that I've seen more change & currencies than a beggar outside tesco

All these figures are way out of line, none of them round off to even figures. I always keep abreast of the rates in dollars to Gbp and the rates over the last two years have been around 1.42 to a high of 1.60 Now get your calculators out and work it out, Carl whoever sent you that is absolutely writing bollux

You've got to love these conspiracy theorists.

really................dont ever try to be a lawyer......75k is a round figure..........1.25mil is not......

no matter how much you hate Tan or Lim.........right is right......and wrong is wrong.........and this deal stinks..
if it were my money id be thinking there is something not right here...........

the lengths you are going to defend Malky and continuously bring him up mystify.......
the post..............are you trying to say M and M.........GO TO lIM /Tan and say there is one for the future here.......they break the bank...and are then pissed off?
oh come on

I am guessing you are aiming your post at me because of the op but I have said it is not my theory, it was sent to me and I was asked for an opinion.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a theory, end of.

I posted it to see what others opinions are.

Who sent it to you?

I got sent the following and was asked for my opinion on it.

To be honest I am not sure if it is anything other than just a theory but it is an interesting theory all the same.

What are your opinions on it?

The conversion rate has changed since the transfer.


As we both now, in reality the scout (Moody) recommends the player to the manager (Malky), who in turn decides whether he would like him and then passes his recommendation to the CEO (Lim). From there he decides on what the club can afford and the offer is made to the selling club and the agent/player concerned.

Now Lim/Tan have gone public to state that Moody/Malky were entirely responsible for the signing of Andreas Cornelius and then also the finances that went with the deal!

Ok, if Moody and Malky were responsible, then they would deal in GBP. Malaysia as a country, not just Tan but internationally deal in American dollars, so, lets look at the breakdown.

Wages at £45 a week. Why £45k? Why not a round figure of £50k?

£45k in American dollars is $75k a week! A ROUND FIGURE!
£863k agents fee? In American dollars that $1.5m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£1.25M signing on fee? In American dollars that is $2m! A ROUND FIGURE!
£7.668M Transfer fee? In American Dollars that is $13m, add to that the signing on fee of
$2m = a total transfer fee of $15m! A ROUND FIGURE!

Therefore, it is too much of a coincidence that all these figures are rounded up nicely in American dollars to suggest it was non other than Lim/Tan who took care of the financial offerings of the deal.

I think Malky bought a dud here, due to his injury issues ??? who knows, but what I do know is that Malky record with his buys was overall very good. He should have been given a full season and if Tan had given him the same money as OGS in Jan then I also think we not be in the bottom 3. Tan has put a lot of money into our Club but when it comes to football issues he is clueless and he needs to understand that Respect works both ways.

So Malky has no accountability for Acorn, Brayford et al...

Even Annis's mate Sam, a "football man" says he does... I notice Annis's made no comment on that...