Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:58 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:01 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:02 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:08 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
and yeah not all malkys games in prem was bad defensively but some was shocking and we conceded hell of a lot towards the end, I agree the Swansea game was shocking under ole, im more encouraged under ole on an attacking sense but the defense defo needs to tighten up
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:11 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:15 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Personally I didnt feel we had any chance of staying up under Malky, we were found out pretty quickly and in free fall.
Ole has had tough fixtures to start but I can see clear improvements, we now need to pick up some wins thought. I believe we have a fighting chance of staying up now.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:19 pm
citybluechris wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
you mean alan Hansen seems to forgottenand yeah not all malkys games in prem was bad defensively but some was shocking and we conceded hell of a lot towards the end, I agree the Swansea game was shocking under ole, im more encouraged under ole on an attacking sense but the defense defo needs to tighten up
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:25 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote: Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:28 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:31 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:citybluechris wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
you mean alan Hansen seems to forgottenand yeah not all malkys games in prem was bad defensively but some was shocking and we conceded hell of a lot towards the end, I agree the Swansea game was shocking under ole, im more encouraged under ole on an attacking sense but the defense defo needs to tighten up
No, you seem to have forgotten.
We will never know if we would have stayed up under Mackay, so talking about it is pointless. As saying we 'definitely would have gone down' is just plain wrong.
The fact of the matter is, our best players were bought by Mackay.
Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.
Tony Pulis has had less funds and the same time at Palace, look at them. Stop blaming Mackay for the failings of the current manager.
There is still time for ole, so all is not lost.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:32 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:32 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:36 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.
Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:37 pm
citybluechris wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Personally I didnt feel we had any chance of staying up under Malky, we were found out pretty quickly and in free fall.
Ole has had tough fixtures to start but I can see clear improvements, we now need to pick up some wins thought. I believe we have a fighting chance of staying up now.
my exact feelings
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:39 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:citybluechris wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Personally I didnt feel we had any chance of staying up under Malky, we were found out pretty quickly and in free fall.
Ole has had tough fixtures to start but I can see clear improvements, we now need to pick up some wins thought. I believe we have a fighting chance of staying up now.
my exact feelings
You seem to have forgotten.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:40 pm
citybluechris wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:citybluechris wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Personally I didnt feel we had any chance of staying up under Malky, we were found out pretty quickly and in free fall.
Ole has had tough fixtures to start but I can see clear improvements, we now need to pick up some wins thought. I believe we have a fighting chance of staying up now.
my exact feelings
You seem to have forgotten.
not forgotten anything, results don't lie, by the way theres a typo in your name its "willy-wanka" not "willy-wonka
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:43 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:43 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.
Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.
you keep spouting this totally unfounded nonsense every time the topic comes up. You seem convinced we would have just waltzed to victories over West ham and villa if malky was in charge and im not sure why.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:44 pm
wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
we were 3-0 down at half time in liverpool or have you forgotten that ?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:45 pm
steve davies wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
we were 3-0 down at half time in liverpool or have you forgotten that ?
and 3 -0 down at half time in the next game against southampton. second worst defence in the premiership as well but we were competitive and defensively sound though
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:50 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.
Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.
you keep spouting this totally unfounded nonsense every time the topic comes up. You seem convinced we would have just waltzed to victories over West ham and villa if malky was in charge and im not sure why.
So it was nonesense Tan interfered? Malky should have been left alone to get on with it as it is now looking a better option than where we are now.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:55 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.
Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.
you keep spouting this totally unfounded nonsense every time the topic comes up. You seem convinced we would have just waltzed to victories over West ham and villa if malky was in charge and im not sure why.
So it was nonesense Tan interfered? Malky should have been left alone to get on with it as it is now looking a better option than where we are now.
he didnt interfer with the obscene amount of money that Malky wasted this season, not until it was too late.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:58 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:03 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.
Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.
you keep spouting this totally unfounded nonsense every time the topic comes up. You seem convinced we would have just waltzed to victories over West ham and villa if malky was in charge and im not sure why.
So it was nonesense Tan interfered? Malky should have been left alone to get on with it as it is now looking a better option than where we are now.
he didnt interfer with the obscene amount of money that Malky wasted this season, not until it was too late.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:20 pm
Neokutai wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote: Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.
Sorry, I struggled to take you seriously after you made that statement.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:23 pm
citybluechris wrote:he said Cardiff were in free fall under malky and ole gunnar has somewhat steadied the ship but still in massive danger, so some people besides Cardiff fans could see how bad we become towards end of malkys tenure at the club
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:34 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:46 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
Remind me again, how many points did we get from those games?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:50 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
Remind me again, how many points did we get from those games?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:14 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:citybluechris wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.
I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.
We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.
you mean alan Hansen seems to forgottenand yeah not all malkys games in prem was bad defensively but some was shocking and we conceded hell of a lot towards the end, I agree the Swansea game was shocking under ole, im more encouraged under ole on an attacking sense but the defense defo needs to tighten up
Wrong when Mackay left we had the second worst defensive record in the league and worst scoring record, for a manager that prided himself on strong back line up and parking the bus not to concede he wasn't really do a good job of it
We were losing anyway so making the change was necessary
No, you seem to have forgotten.
We will never know if we would have stayed up under Mackay, so talking about it is pointless. As saying we 'definitely would have gone down' is just plain wrong.
The fact of the matter is, our best players were bought by Mackay.
Not really our line up most of this season is still 90% of what it was in the championship and the only reason it's like that is because what he bought was worse than what we already had so he had no choice but to stick with what he had already bought for the championship season prior
Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.
£6m out
£3m in
£3 spent good value for seven players
£10m lost on Cornelius alone without Bradford etc (BITH MALKY SIGNINGS)
Tony Pulis has had less funds and the same time at Palace, look at them. Stop blaming Mackay for the failings of the current manager.
Pulis has had far more time and games since arriving at palace in October not December you gimp
There is still time for ole, so all is not lost.