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Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:55 pm

Without a recognised goalscorer we were going to struggle, but without a centre back who is capable of playing out the back with Caulker while also keeping solid at the back we won't get above three teams in this league. Won't score enough and will concede too many for that not to be a problem.

First time I felt we would probably go down all season.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:56 pm

We've got to stay positive and give Ole a chance.

It's not fair to judge him after the run of games we've had.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:56 pm

Agreed. One signing of Finnbogason or Cisse on a permanent and we'd have had a strong chance but now I am consigned to life back in the Championship. Oh well, maybe it'll have a silver lining and we end up back in blue. Who knows? No way we are staying up with this squad. No strength at the back centrally and no out and out goalscorer who's consistent.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:57 pm

12thMan wrote:We've got to stay positive and give Ole a chance.

It's not fair to judge him after the run of games we've had.


We're judging him on the squad at his disposal, not the results. The squad doesn't have whats required.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:57 pm

Stronger squad than we closed the Summer window with, so I'm assuming you've just been a miserable sod since first kick of the season then? :ayatollah:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:58 pm

With the creative players we bought we'd should get more goals, KJ, FC and AC wouldn't have been the worst line up, suicide to lose Mason, Maynard, Cornelius and not get one replacement.

But to have the entire month and not get a CB is criminal.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:58 pm

Cisse is in woeful form and has been for 12 months.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:59 pm

F me. So negative.

:roll:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:59 pm

Not judging Ole... But where are we getting the goals from to stay in this league???

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:59 pm

Only way i could see it working is having Zaha playing off Jones in a 4-4-1-1 formation in a free role to run riot.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:00 am

Inthemixer wrote:Not judging Ole... But where are we getting the goals from to stay in this league???


Exactly.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:00 am

Starting to look that way i'm afraid. I think the midfield looks decent and hopefully more chances should start being created but whether Jones and Fraizer are the right men to put them away personally I am not convinced. And the lack of strength in our defense is a major issue which i think will be the ultimate reason we are going to struggle.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:02 am

No he, s being realistic jones and campbell are not prolific goal scorers
we are the loeest scorers. I will happily eat my hat but the championship beckons


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Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:02 am

No he, s being realistic jones and campbell are not prolific goal scorers
we are the loeest scorers. I will happily eat my hat but the championship beckons


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Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:02 am

No he, s being realistic jones and campbell are not prolific goal scorers
we are the loeest scorers. I will happily eat my hat but the championship beckons


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Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:07 am

The only reason we haven't scored goals is because all Malky wanted to do was defend, We didn't even play with an attacking midfielder ffs. Now we have Zaha and Noone on each wing and an attacking mentality, We will score goals. So much negativity it's unreal, We may as well pack it in now according to most. :roll:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:08 am

Kanester wrote:The only reason we haven't scored goals is because all Malky wanted to do was defend, We didn't even play with an attacking midfielder ffs. Now we have Zaha and Noone on each wing and an attacking mentality, We will score goals. So much negativity it's unreal, We may as well pack it in now according to most. :roll:


We may as well. Jones and Fraizer won't keep us up. By the time Zaha gets going properly it will be the end of Feb.

By the end of March we'll be relegated already imo. Just being honest.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:11 am

Lack of ambition in this transfer window. No quality striker signed to get us the goals to stay up. For that reason I also below relegation is on the cards for CCFC.
Saying that palace got shit strikers so have stoke so maybe there's a bit of hope for us. I hope kenwynne jones will come good cos Campbell isn't good enough at this level imo

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:12 am

BlueMagic wrote:Lack of ambition in this transfer window. No quality striker signed to get us the goals to stay up. For that reason I also below relegation is on the cards for CCFC.
Saying that palace got shit strikers so have stoke so maybe there's a bit of hope for us. I hope kenwynne jones will come good cos Campbell isn't good enough at this level imo


Chamakh is scoring and they have Ince who scores more than Zaha and has been playing so should slot in fine. Zaha will take time to get going due to lack of match fitness. We're screwed unless late deals announced.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:15 am

I'm backing zaha to score a good few, between him campbell and Jones and a few others like noone , Mutch chipping in I think we will have enough goals, defence is a slight concern though.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:16 am

BlueMagic wrote:Campbell isn't good enough at this level imo


The same Campbell who was being played on his own up top under Malky's defensive tactics, so never had a hope of scoring? Also the same Campbell who's scored 3 goals in the 5 games since OGS took charge and changed our style of play?

There's no one here who can say Campbell won't do it for us now. He's clearly been held back by Malky and has got more goals to his name now the team is playing football.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:17 am

KWest wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Campbell isn't good enough at this level imo


The same Campbell who was being played on his own up top under Malky's defensive tactics, so never had a hope of scoring? Also the same Campbell who's scored 3 goals in the 5 games since OGS took charge and changed our style of play?

There's no one here who can say Campbell won't do it for us now. He's clearly been held back by Malky and has got more goals to his name now the team is playing football.


The same Campbell who was out with a serious injury? Oh yes that Campbell. One injury and we're screwed. Simple.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:24 am

That's beside the point. He hasn't been injured this season, and people are saying he can't score goals yet OGS's five games thus far say otherwise.

If he gets injured, then yeah we possibly have an issue. But people are knocking his ability to score goals, which I don't think should be in question right now.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:29 am

KWest wrote:That's beside the point. He hasn't been injured this season, and people are saying he can't score goals yet OGS's five games thus far say otherwise.

If he gets injured, then yeah we possibly have an issue. But people are knocking his ability to score goals, which I don't think should be in question right now.



Let's be honest we haven't really created many chances for campbell have we! Malky played most of the season without any wingers or creative players!

So with zaha, noone and mutch pushing forward I would hope that they start creating more chances for Campbell aswell as jones!

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:46 am

well we have a target man, the cornelious farce completely justified moodys' sacking and malkys' statement stating that he was one for the future sealed his fate! the best part of 12 million wasted on a parks player!! i think ole has been backed this window! ross mc cormack fuckin pimping himself on sky sports news 2 hours after swearing his allegiance to leeds under mc dermott. then finding out he was sacked was scandalous! love to be in the leeds dressing room tomorrow! lol. we may go down but we will come back up as champions again!!! that i think is a given :ayatollah: :twisted:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:38 am

Being bottom of the table didn't help our chances of securing the highest quality strikers or CB's.

The quirk of playing the two Manchester fixtures just prior to the deadline affected us. If circumstance had swopped those fixtures with Norwich and Swansea, there would have been a very good chance of being outside the bottom three.

It is just one of those things and as grown men, the squad, manager and his backroom staff have to pull out all the stops to take us to safety by the end of the season.

Some are stating we are virtually relegated with three months and two May fixtures left !!

Getting three points against Norwich would be very welcome and would help get some momentum going, but to say it's a must win is applying inappropriate pressure on the team and us fans.

Obviously, we need to start to win games, but if the team play very well with the new players gelling, yet somehow we fail to win would that then be the end of our season?

At this stage, I would rather a run of poor winning performances over lower points gained.

My biggest concern is the relative lack of PL experience in our squad, barring Bellamy, Caulker and Jones.

That may be our saviour or downfall.

IF OGS, can get players like Noone, Zaha, Mutch, Daehli and Kim enjoying playing football without fear then we will create more chances, but it will be essential for these players and others throughout the team to start scoring more as well as our forwards.

It was great to see Daehli and Noone shoot more and for that to be continued by the names mentioned, plus Whitts, Bellamy, etc.

On wet surfaces like this, it will be a nightmare for goalkeepers, shots getting through with deflections will become goals, especially if our fast twitch muscle type players such as Campbell, Zaha, Daehli and Noone look for the rebounds.

Deflections wide, become corners and our set pieces so far have been a key source of our goals, that will likely improve with the arrival of Jones.

Our games are likely to be higher tempo with our newer players and existing players getting a new lease of playing life, with more shots on goal, a more direct and also varied form of attacking. We will be a lot harder to defend against compared to before OGS's arrival.

Our defensive midfield will be another key to our success, where the likes of Cowie will become a pivotal player, along with Medel and Gunner to create the fast transition from defence to attack.

I'm disappointed not to get a proven and experienced striker and CB, but the remainder of the season is going to be one hell of a roller coaster ride. Enjoy the ups and downs of what hopefully will be a great journey :thumbright:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:45 am

Can't help but feel let down we haven't signed a CB or a striker but to say we're already down is sad to see. Hopefully the clubs around us who have signed players don't settle in right and take ages to perform and our signings get off from the word go, we need a bit of luck. If we go down we go down, we're not out of it yet and stranger things have happened

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:28 am

If we have a full weeks worth of shooting training only im sure we will be fine. :lol: We need to be more deadly with our chances and thats the difference in the Premiership to Championship and its shown. Still I think we will kick on and stay up! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:44 am

What? :lol:

How can anyone possibly throw in the towel now? Its not looking good I agree. However it didnt look good for us 10 years ago but we never stopped believing and the rest his history as they say.

Re: Well, that's relegation I think..

Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:48 am

blackers1927 wrote:F me. So negative.

:roll:

The Op is just being real to his own opinion its you who deem it negative as it does not match yours so how can it be negative, if he said we will get in top the top four you would call him an idiot. Tomany brain washed posters on here who use negative as the answer to every post as its not there opinion :ayatollah: