Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:10 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:19 pm
Valleybluebird wrote:Is it just me or am I missing something. He's out of contract end of the season and instead of getting a small fee they are loaning him out? What's that all about? Sorry if I sound stupidI just don't get it
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:21 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:27 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:32 pm
PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:32 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:33 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:33 pm
PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:37 pm
pembroke allan wrote:genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year!
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:37 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year!
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:
He didn't seem too keen on him in fairness when asked in an interview. I think he said he's a talent from what i recall. Seems more of a Jenkins signing. I would love to show you the link but I really can't be bothered at this time.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:41 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:
He didn't seem too keen on him in fairness when asked in an interview. I think he said he's a talent from what i recall. Seems more of a Jenkins signing. I would love to show you the link but I really can't be bothered at this time.
Just a guess then based on him calling him "a talent"
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:43 pm
PremierJacks wrote:pembroke allan wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
genious maybe, but smacks more of doesnt want pay any money for anyone, so saving clubs money for his divi at end financial year!
or maybe doesnt want to pay for someone when they could be in champ next season! saving clubs pennies as will need them
You're right. Makes far more sense to pay say £8m for a player who you're stuck with for three or four years on £45k a week.........don't understand Huw's thinking at all
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 pm
64JACK wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:45 pm
Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince
£1.5m loan fee for Zaha
Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.
It'll be interesting to see how they both do.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm
Kiffa wrote:Can someone explain to me how you would get first refusal on a player that would be out of contract?
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince
£1.5m loan fee for Zaha
Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.
It'll be interesting to see how they both do.
The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:46 pm
64JACK wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:48 pm
PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:48 pm
Gonzo wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince
£1.5m loan fee for Zaha
Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.
It'll be interesting to see how they both do.
The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were
Only if he decides to sign on with you which is by no means guaranteed, especially if he does well or if you get relegated
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:49 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:64JACK wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:PremierJacks wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Swansea wanted a loan deal with first refusal on the permanent signing at end of the season to see if he fits in with the Swansea style. Blackpool refused initially but have since agreed.
Swansea will pay some money up front for the loan deal and then depending on when the permanent transfer goes through they will receive the rest of the agreed amount or the compensation value.
If he went to Monaco they would have received next to nothing a la Ledley and Celtic so Blackpool have been bent over a table by Huw to make this happen. Hes essentially getting a try before you buy.
Huw Jenkins. Genius.
Shame laudrup doesn't want him.
Source?
I haven't got one, but I certainly read a post whereby he stated he didn't think he was ready for the prem.
Are you sure you're a jack? It's just you often seem so, well, normal
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:52 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Agree. Quite shocked how unbiased you are.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:55 pm
Green Arrow wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Agree. Quite shocked how unbiased you are.
Its Roathie FFS.![]()
A jack with well constructed articulate posts - its either Roathie or scotsjack.
Simple as that.
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:57 pm
NorgBlue wrote:Gonzo wrote:NorgBlue wrote:Gonzo wrote:£1m loan fee for Ince
£1.5m loan fee for Zaha
Both have "baggage". Both have huge ego's.
It'll be interesting to see how they both do.
The £1m for Ince works as part payment for the final fee so not "dead money" as it were
Only if he decides to sign on with you which is by no means guaranteed, especially if he does well or if you get relegated
He would have already signed a pre commitment contract prior to a loan to a permanent view in this scenario, no doubt about that.
The choice is down to us.