Swansea's squad depth

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Don't think anyone is in denial that we are in a relegation battle. I believed that we did have a good enough squad, but didn't expect this many injuries. When all players return to fitness we'll almost have another team to pick from. So whilst I accept that we're far from safe, I would hope that when all our players return from injury we have enough quality to see us clear of the dogfight. We have about nine players of quality and experience out at the moment. What have you got to add to your squad that will see you clear the bottom three?

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Totally agree with you. We are both in it thats for sure. I've looked at our games and to be honest I cannot see us getting anymore than 38 points. We wont be beaten a lot, but we are incapable of winning games, especially at home. Even against the bottom clubs. As for Bony, well he has started to show some form but at the end of the day he has so far earned us 1 point! Scored 17, but only 7 in the prem,
1 Man Utd - lost 1-4
1 Sunderland Won 4-0
2 Stoke Drew 3-3
2 Man City Lost 2-3
1 Spurs Lost 1-3

Not his fault, but hey, you can't argue with the facts!

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Don't think anyone is in denial that we are in a relegation battle. I believed that we did have a good enough squad, but didn't expect this many injuries. When all players return to fitness we'll almost have another team to pick from. So whilst I accept that we're far from safe, I would hope that when all our players return from injury we have enough quality to see us clear of the dogfight. We have about nine players of quality and experience out at the moment. What have you got to add to your squad that will see you clear the bottom three?

injuries have caused you problems, once they're back then you'll look better! for us, we definitely need a new winger and striker, and a CB or a LB wont go a miss in this transfer window!

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Don't think anyone is in denial that we are in a relegation battle. I believed that we did have a good enough squad, but didn't expect this many injuries. When all players return to fitness we'll almost have another team to pick from. So whilst I accept that we're far from safe, I would hope that when all our players return from injury we have enough quality to see us clear of the dogfight. We have about nine players of quality and experience out at the moment. What have you got to add to your squad that will see you clear the bottom three?

injuries have caused you problems, once they're back then you'll look better! for us, we definitely need a new winger and striker, and a CB or a LB wont go a miss in this transfer window!

I think Campbell needs a competitor for team competition, I think we also need a winger, another outlet instead of just noone.

I think Campbell needs a competitor for team competition, I think we also need a winger, another outlet instead of just noone.

Zaha and Finnbogason/Rhodes.

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Don't think anyone is in denial that we are in a relegation battle. I believed that we did have a good enough squad, but didn't expect this many injuries. When all players return to fitness we'll almost have another team to pick from. So whilst I accept that we're far from safe, I would hope that when all our players return from injury we have enough quality to see us clear of the dogfight. We have about nine players of quality and experience out at the moment. What have you got to add to your squad that will see you clear the bottom three?

injuries have caused you problems, once they're back then you'll look better! for us, we definitely need a new winger and striker, and a CB or a LB wont go a miss in this transfer window!

I think Campbell needs a competitor for team competition, I think we also need a winger, another outlet instead of just noone.

think we need a striker to play WITH campbell! he's a poacher, needs some good knock downs and through balls!

Earlier in the season NJ73 and SL69 said they'd have the squad depth to cope in the Europa League and do fine in the Premier League even with injuries yet they're just outside of the relegation zone and totally out of form. Bony looks like the only player in their team who can do something for them and Noone looks like the only one in our team who has a spark.

They're in just as bad a position as us, possibly even worse with injuries, yet they're in denial. Have to laugh at the pathetic Jacks really as they won't admit it at all. Since Brendan has left they have slowly but surely started to crumble and the philosophy and ethos they had, which is now being instilled at Liverpool, is slowly decaying and falling apart.

They're in for a relegation battle no matter how much they pretend otherwise.

Don't think anyone is in denial that we are in a relegation battle. I believed that we did have a good enough squad, but didn't expect this many injuries. When all players return to fitness we'll almost have another team to pick from. So whilst I accept that we're far from safe, I would hope that when all our players return from injury we have enough quality to see us clear of the dogfight. We have about nine players of quality and experience out at the moment. What have you got to add to your squad that will see you clear the bottom three?

injuries have caused you problems, once they're back then you'll look better! for us, we definitely need a new winger and striker, and a CB or a LB wont go a miss in this transfer window!

I agree with you, but for us it's "when" whereas for you it's "if" Big twelve days for you to find some players to fill the gaps

I think Campbell needs a competitor for team competition, I think we also need a winger, another outlet instead of just noone.

Zaha and Finnbogason/Rhodes.

I would have liked to have seen montero, gutted we didn't sign him. Finnbogasson/ Rhodes are both goal-scorers who will do a job. Let's hope we get these players or player of similar ability in.

Well we are still in the Europa league and not in the relegation places so they were almost right.

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 14th/15th and above swansea at current rate

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

Something that would suitably describe your team too, at the moment.

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

You obviously see us as the shit team, unfortunately there are 16 games to go and many twists and turns. Will we be bottom after those games I don't know, will you be bottom three after those games you DONT KNOW, so lets wait and see. We can all assume but that doesn't get you results.

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

Something that would suitably describe your team too, at the moment.

Evening, Bazza. "Other commitments" allowing you out to play tonight, is she?

Swansea fans are full of crap. Get back on PlanetSwans you squirmers.

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

You obviously see us as the shit team, unfortunately there are 16 games to go and many twists and turns. Will we be bottom after those games I don't know, will you be bottom three after those games you DONT KNOW, so lets wait and see. We can all assume but that doesn't get you results.

No, I don't see you as the shit team. I was commenting on the arrogance of the poster who, despite being the bottom club, still regards teams above you as shit. Were not Sunderland and West Ham two of these so-called shit teams and look what happened there. I was merely pointing out that the teams that you consider to be shit might also be of the same opinion of you. I quite agree that we don't know who will be in what position come May, but to suggest other teams are shit when you're bottom is, to me, a bit out of order

Swansea fans are full of crap. Get back on PlanetSwans you squirmers.

That's very constructive. Thanks for your input

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

You obviously see us as the shit team, unfortunately there are 16 games to go and many twists and turns. Will we be bottom after those games I don't know, will you be bottom three after those games you DONT KNOW, so lets wait and see. We can all assume but that doesn't get you results.

No, I don't see you as the shit team. I was commenting on the arrogance of the poster who, despite being the bottom club, still regards teams above you as shit. Were not Sunderland and West Ham two of these so-called shit teams and look what happened there. I was merely pointing out that the teams that you consider to be shit might also be of the same opinion of you. I quite agree that we don't know who will be in what position come May, but to suggest other teams are shit when you're bottom is, to me, a bit out of order

As I have already said at this moment in time we both are the leagues worst teams, end of conversation.

Swansea fans are full of crap. Get back on PlanetSwans you squirmers.

That's very constructive. Thanks for your input

Its my thread. I'll give whatever input I want you marshmallow.

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

You obviously see us as the shit team, unfortunately there are 16 games to go and many twists and turns. Will we be bottom after those games I don't know, will you be bottom three after those games you DONT KNOW, so lets wait and see. We can all assume but that doesn't get you results.

No, I don't see you as the shit team. I was commenting on the arrogance of the poster who, despite being the bottom club, still regards teams above you as shit. Were not Sunderland and West Ham two of these so-called shit teams and look what happened there. I was merely pointing out that the teams that you consider to be shit might also be of the same opinion of you. I quite agree that we don't know who will be in what position come May, but to suggest other teams are shit when you're bottom is, to me, a bit out of order

As I have already said at this moment in time we both are the leagues worst teams, end of conversation.

Unfortunately, it's not quite the end of the conversation. Tradition has it that the Premier League consists of twenty teams. The team in first place at any time is generally considered the best. The team at the bottom is usually accepted as the worst (or shit). That's how it tends to work. In a couple of weeks it may all have changed, but that's how it is at the moment

Swansea fans are full of crap. Get back on PlanetSwans you squirmers.

That's very constructive. Thanks for your input

Its my thread. I'll give whatever input I want you marshmallow.

Fair enough. I stand corrected

Bony is still playing, michu has been pretty poor most of the season dyer prob wont make an impact by the time hes full fit again wont be long left.
I think the laudrup factor has dropped from the squad the team haven't got the same desire as they have had even with a full squad I think its hard for swansea to fully focus on league games with Europa, not only that its the extra games and travelling causing injury and slack performances.

at cardiff we definately have more goals in us now and maybe more additions plus bellamy back will be like another signing. so so far we have 3 back. and craig noone who has come to light. so thats 4 players now to push for the first 11 plus a striker.

alot of shit teams at home and we are now stronger away from home. only 6 points seperating 10th. if we could beat swansea and norwich all of a sudden we are sitting in 4th and above swansea at current rate

Michu's been carrying an injury all season.
Bellamy is playing on reputation, not good enough for PL anymore.
You sat that you have a lot of shit teams at home, but overlook the glaring fact that's staring you in the face -YOU'RE THE SHIT TEAM at the moment!

The facts are we are BOTH shit at the moment and heres the evidence.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... guide.html

That may be the case, but the inference was that "shit teams" means poor teams who are easy pickings. As the bottom team I would suggest that other teams may see you as the shit team

You obviously see us as the shit team, unfortunately there are 16 games to go and many twists and turns. Will we be bottom after those games I don't know, will you be bottom three after those games you DONT KNOW, so lets wait and see. We can all assume but that doesn't get you results.

No, I don't see you as the shit team. I was commenting on the arrogance of the poster who, despite being the bottom club, still regards teams above you as shit. Were not Sunderland and West Ham two of these so-called shit teams and look what happened there. I was merely pointing out that the teams that you consider to be shit might also be of the same opinion of you. I quite agree that we don't know who will be in what position come May, but to suggest other teams are shit when you're bottom is, to me, a bit out of order

As I have already said at this moment in time we both are the leagues worst teams, end of conversation.

Unfortunately, it's not quite the end of the conversation. Tradition has it that the Premier League consists of twenty teams. The team in first place at any time is generally considered the best. The team at the bottom is usually accepted as the worst (or shit). That's how it tends to work. In a couple of weeks it may all have changed, but that's how it is at the moment

So you are saying we are shit then

I believe we are a bit of an unknown with the new manager. Although we lost yesterday not many teams have gone to the Etihad and have found themsleves still in a game after 70 odd minutes. Not many teams have scored twice there.

I think the Jacks are relying on their injured players coming back into the fray. This I feel is a risk specially with those who have been out for a length of time like Michu. Usually it takes a season to get back up to speed for these type of things.

Looking at the rest of the teams I would say Fulham are favourites to go down. I just cant see that squad turning it around. West Ham look another favourite to go down but I feel they have the experience and quality to pull through. Palace and Sunderland are starting to get their acts together and could pull through. I would say out of these lot Fulham is one team both Welsh clubs should end up higher than.

Usually a team mid table ends up getting dragged into the relegation fight. If Hull or Norwich go on a bad run, I believe it will be Hull out of these 2, then there is a possibility that another relegation place we could avoid.

Personally I feel both Welsh club could easily go down now. The unknown Ole factor could save us and the Jacks are going to rely on Bony who is showing premier striker credentials now. I woukld say the Jacks have the slight edge on us because of him.

I believe we are a bit of an unknown with the new manager. Although we lost yesterday not many teams have gone to the Etihad and have found themsleves still in a game after 70 odd minutes. Not many teams have scored twice there.

I think the Jacks are relying on their injured players coming back into the fray. This I feel is a risk specially with those who have been out for a length of time like Michu. Usually it takes a season to get back up to speed for these type of things.

Looking at the rest of the teams I would say Fulham are favourites to go down. I just cant see that squad turning it around. West Ham look another favourite to go down but I feel they have the experience and quality to pull through. Palace and Sunderland are starting to get their acts together and could pull through. I would say out of these lot Fulham is one team both Welsh clubs should end up higher than.

Usually a team mid table ends up getting dragged into the relegation fight. If Hull or Norwich go on a bad run, I believe it will be Hull out of these 2, then there is a possibility that another relegation place we could avoid.

Personally I feel both Welsh club could easily go down now. The unknown Ole factor could save us and the Jacks are going to rely on Bony who is showing premier striker credentials now. I woukld say the Jacks have the slight edge on us because of him.

Couldn't have summarised it better myself if I tried Baked. Spot on.

I believe we are a bit of an unknown with the new manager. Although we lost yesterday not many teams have gone to the Etihad and have found themsleves still in a game after 70 odd minutes. Not many teams have scored twice there.

I think the Jacks are relying on their injured players coming back into the fray. This I feel is a risk specially with those who have been out for a length of time like Michu. Usually it takes a season to get back up to speed for these type of things.

Looking at the rest of the teams I would say Fulham are favourites to go down. I just cant see that squad turning it around. West Ham look another favourite to go down but I feel they have the experience and quality to pull through. Palace and Sunderland are starting to get their acts together and could pull through. I would say out of these lot Fulham is one team both Welsh clubs should end up higher than.

Usually a team mid table ends up getting dragged into the relegation fight. If Hull or Norwich go on a bad run, I believe it will be Hull out of these 2, then there is a possibility that another relegation place we could avoid.

Personally I feel both Welsh club could easily go down now. The unknown Ole factor could save us and the Jacks are going to rely on Bony who is showing premier striker credentials now. I woukld say the Jacks have the slight edge on us because of him.

I can see how Cardiff fans can see OGS as a positive, but , playing devil's advocate, could he not be a liability? No managerial experience in the PL, or in UK other than at under 21 level. I know he played at Man Utd under the great Sir Alex, but how many relegation battles were they involved in where OGS could gain experience. It's a totally different game at the top to the bottom. Also, the players he's brought in to date will, as you've alluded to above, probably take a season to get up to speed. I agree that no team is safe until it's mathematically impossible to be relegated and I think it will be a long time before that point arrives for either Welsh team

I believe we are a bit of an unknown with the new manager. Although we lost yesterday not many teams have gone to the Etihad and have found themsleves still in a game after 70 odd minutes. Not many teams have scored twice there.

I think the Jacks are relying on their injured players coming back into the fray. This I feel is a risk specially with those who have been out for a length of time like Michu. Usually it takes a season to get back up to speed for these type of things.

Looking at the rest of the teams I would say Fulham are favourites to go down. I just cant see that squad turning it around. West Ham look another favourite to go down but I feel they have the experience and quality to pull through. Palace and Sunderland are starting to get their acts together and could pull through. I would say out of these lot Fulham is one team both Welsh clubs should end up higher than.

Usually a team mid table ends up getting dragged into the relegation fight. If Hull or Norwich go on a bad run, I believe it will be Hull out of these 2, then there is a possibility that another relegation place we could avoid.

Personally I feel both Welsh club could easily go down now. The unknown Ole factor could save us and the Jacks are going to rely on Bony who is showing premier striker credentials now. I woukld say the Jacks have the slight edge on us because of him.

I can see how Cardiff fans can see OGS as a positive, but , playing devil's advocate, could he not be a liability? No managerial experience in the PL, or in UK other than at under 21 level. I know he played at Man Utd under the great Sir Alex, but how many relegation battles were they involved in where OGS could gain experience. It's a totally different game at the top to the bottom. Also, the players he's brought in to date will, as you've alluded to above, probably take a season to get up to speed. I agree that no team is safe until it's mathematically impossible to be relegated and I think it will be a long time before that point arrives for either Welsh team

Its always a risk bringing in a new manager. i do feel our choice of manager is a high risk for reasons you have given.

The players brought in are fit so if they are good enough they should very quickly settle in. Of course good enough being the operative words here. Injured players regardless what quality they have do take a lot longer to get back up there, history has shown that.