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' Malky Mackay '

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:12 pm

Just bored.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

I was just looking at Malky's worst ever run with Cardiff City in the Premier League with lunatic Tan on his back and the pressures galore and with tough fixtures that always lay ahead of him, his worst run was just two defeats in a row.

Interesting
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

Some will say he has gone move on/some will show respect.

We discuss DJ/Frankie Burrows/Eddie May etc, so we never really move on. :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:03 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Just bored.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

I was just looking at Malky's worst ever run with Cardiff City in the Premier League with lunatic Tan on his back and the pressures galore and with tough fixtures that always lay ahead of him, his worst run was just two defeats in a row.

Interesting
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

Some will say he has gone move on/some will show respect.

We discuss DJ/Frankie Burrows/Eddie May etc, so we never really move on. :thumbup:


he lacked professionalism in the end and it spread to the team hence the Southampton defeat. Was time for him to go I'm afraid. I know some rate him highly but honestly think he'll be keeping the likes of Taylor Boothroyd and Wilson company soon as up and coming managers who flattered to deceive

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:14 pm

We weren't winning games we should be winning and was setting up wrong, not scoring and conceding goals. Again it was gluing over the cracks, we spent a fair but so it was a deserved sacking as well when you add up the unprofessionalism above mentioned

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:24 pm

Natman Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Just bored.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

I was just looking at Malky's worst ever run with Cardiff City in the Premier League with lunatic Tan on his back and the pressures galore and with tough fixtures that always lay ahead of him, his worst run was just two defeats in a row.

Interesting
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115247

Some will say he has gone move on/some will show respect.

We discuss DJ/Frankie Burrows/Eddie May etc, so we never really move on. :thumbup:


he lacked professionalism in the end and it spread to the team hence the Southampton defeat. Was time for him to go I'm afraid. I know some rate him highly but honestly think he'll be keeping the likes of Taylor Boothroyd and Wilson company soon as up and coming managers who flattered to deceive


Agree 100%

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:16 am

Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:23 am

CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


i thought he was a fake from day1 mate.............never called a spade a spade once..but crap football was my biggest bug bear................the two faced ones are those..that ive heard say........we should b trying to win here.......this is shite......id b upset if id spent 50mil and was watching this too,then start singing dont sack makay....not because they love him,,but to get at tan

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:30 am

CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


Was saying that about him for a while before he left. Am grateful for all that he did for the club but those last few weeks soured it for me

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:37 am

i dont get why people jump to this two faced thing..............if you really thought Malky was the 2nd coming thats your individual choice.... the fact that some were not singing we want Malky out doesnt mean they were not thinking it.......

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:47 am

soulofthesea wrote:
CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


i thought he was a fake from day1 mate.............never called a spade a spade once..but crap football was my biggest bug bear................the two faced ones are those..that ive heard say........we should b trying to win here.......this is shite......id b upset if id spent 50mil and was watching this too,then start singing dont sack makay....not because they love him,,but to get at tan

Fair enough, but some people turned sour the second he left. Only a week before they were singing Don't sack Mackay

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:01 am

CantonJack wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


i thought he was a fake from day1 mate.............never called a spade a spade once..but crap football was my biggest bug bear................the two faced ones are those..that ive heard say........we should b trying to win here.......this is shite......id b upset if id spent 50mil and was watching this too,then start singing dont sack makay....not because they love him,,but to get at tan

Fair enough, but some people turned sour the second he left. Only a week before they were singing Don't sack Mackay


some people think opposite things day by day..........not just on Malky..its a pretty fucked up club.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:10 am

We never dropped into the relegation zone under Malky, but what happened as soon as he got sacked? Be honest, we would have done a lot better than getting just 1 point from our 2 home games against Sunderland and West Ham if Malky was still here. I hope Ole will keep us up and I will obviously support him 100%, but our home form under Malky would have been good enough to keep us up. I have no doubt about that.

But unfortunately, our performance home to Southampton when everyone was surprised Malky was still manager showed the impact our clueless owner had unsettling everything. If Tan had just sat back and allowed Malky to carry on doing his job, we would be in a much better position than we are in now.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:13 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:We never dropped into the relegation zone under Malky, but what happened as soon as he got sacked? Be honest, we would have done a lot better than getting just 1 point from our 2 home games against Sunderland and West Ham if Malky was still here. I hope Ole will keep us up and I will obviously support him 100%, but our home form under Malky would have been good enough to keep us up. I have no doubt about that.

But unfortunately, our performance home to Southampton when everyone was surprised Malky was still manager showed the impact our clueless owner had unsettling everything. If Tan had just sat back and allowed Malky to carry on doing his job, we would be in a much better position than we are in now.


Agree with the above :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:44 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:We never dropped into the relegation zone under Malky, but what happened as soon as he got sacked? Be honest, we would have done a lot better than getting just 1 point from our 2 home games against Sunderland and West Ham if Malky was still here. I hope Ole will keep us up and I will obviously support him 100%, but our home form under Malky would have been good enough to keep us up. I have no doubt about that.

But unfortunately, our performance home to Southampton when everyone was surprised Malky was still manager showed the impact our clueless owner had unsettling everything. If Tan had just sat back and allowed Malky to carry on doing his job, we would be in a much better position than we are in now.


Agree with the above :thumbup:


i have a totally different opinion to both of you.............after just a few games,id come to the conclusion that you cant play with this intensity over a full season....he expects every player to give 100 per cent all the time......cant be done......you need your creative players taking up positions in anticipation of us winning the ball..not burning themselves out chasing lost causes and making tackles in our own box....do Malkys teams have burn out? ..yes check it out,each of his 4 years amanaging..points dry up in mid feb.....in fairness they seem to have a second wind last 3 or 4 games.......but there is a
significant drop in points and wins 2nd half of season.......especially feb onwards.........even last year 6 wins in last 18..we were champions,but our form last 18 games was that of a side finnishing 13th or 14th........we were going down.....we might still go down......but im sure we were with him.............

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:53 am

LAST TEN HOME RESULTS LAST YEAR WERE

W3 D6 L1

IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP................even should we repeat our chamionship winning form in the premier league......is this enough?...............so Malky would win the home games i think is wishful thinking

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:06 am

soulofthesea wrote:LAST TEN HOME RESULTS LAST YEAR WERE

W3 D6 L1

IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP................even should we repeat our chamionship winning form in the premier league......is this enough?...............so Malky would win the home games i think is wishful thinking



it was winning the first ten home games on the run that gave us the platform to go up last season. in reality we faded quite badly towards the end and each week results seemed to go for us with hull and watford dropping points at the same time.
we we were going down under malky because we scored 15 goal in 20 games under him with one goal in his last 5 away games despite spending nearly 11 million on strikers.
we now stand at 15 goals in 21 games and unless we bring in a quality striker to supplement the new midfielders we will go down through lack of goals.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:46 am

I notice people like to focus on the last 4 weeks of his time at the club, not the first season he came here.We had as little as 10 proffessionals at the club then and people were saying we are going to be in a relegation battle.They dont focus on the free transfers he picked up and the cheap buys, such as taylor,mason,gunnerson turner,cowie and connerley, many of whom took us to the play offs and wembly.He had money to spend with a remit to get us promoted a year earlier than tan originally planned.....he delivered.........many clubs have had parachute payments and money to keep squads and buy players....and failed.....he delivered.He put a good structure in place with more develpement games and signed young players for the future, i get the feeling he was trying to build a future structure for the club that may have lasted more than one season.He has gone now and OGS is, and will, get my full support every Saturday, but lets reflect and be decent to the man who got us where we are and overseen wins against established premiership sides and some decent results that kept us competative in a very hard league.You can talk about the players he signed this season if you want....moody got the sack allegedly for them and then malky had the blame as well....some have come good...some bad...and the jury is still out on a few, but someone somewhere signed the money off for those players, and tan is supposed to be such a clever bloke....did he miss the money going out of his account ??.
When all said and done....Thanks Malky :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:20 am

CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


Jack, its so sad.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:22 am

Denzil wrote:I notice people like to focus on the last 4 weeks of his time at the club, not the first season he came here.We had as little as 10 proffessionals at the club then and people were saying we are going to be in a relegation battle.They dont focus on the free transfers he picked up and the cheap buys, such as taylor,mason,gunnerson turner,cowie and connerley, many of whom took us to the play offs and wembly.He had money to spend with a remit to get us promoted a year earlier than tan originally planned.....he delivered.........many clubs have had parachute payments and money to keep squads and buy players....and failed.....he delivered.He put a good structure in place with more develpement games and signed young players for the future, i get the feeling he was trying to build a future structure for the club that may have lasted more than one season.He has gone now and OGS is, and will, get my full support every Saturday, but lets reflect and be decent to the man who got us where we are and overseen wins against established premiership sides and some decent results that kept us competative in a very hard league.You can talk about the players he signed this season if you want....moody got the sack allegedly for them and then malky had the blame as well....some have come good...some bad...and the jury is still out on a few, but someone somewhere signed the money off for those players, and tan is supposed to be such a clever bloke....did he miss the money going out of his account ??.
When all said and done....Thanks Malky :ayatollah: :malky:




Well Said Denzil, thy like to focus on the time when their Dictator was virtually smashing Malky behind the scenes.


YES THANKS MALKY :thumbup: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:30 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:We never dropped into the relegation zone under Malky, but what happened as soon as he got sacked? Be honest, we would have done a lot better than getting just 1 point from our 2 home games against Sunderland and West Ham if Malky was still here. I hope Ole will keep us up and I will obviously support him 100%, but our home form under Malky would have been good enough to keep us up. I have no doubt about that.

But unfortunately, our performance home to Southampton when everyone was surprised Malky was still manager showed the impact our clueless owner had unsettling everything. If Tan had just sat back and allowed Malky to carry on doing his job, we would be in a much better position than we are in now.


If Malky had been left alone, I honestly believe we would now be 5/7 points better off. MY strong opinion, but sadly now we will never know.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:15 am

Couldnt score under Malky and were conceding on average 2 per game.

We were going down under him, Stevie Wonder could see that.

As for this "we were never in the relegation zone" bollocks we were heading there at a massive rate of knots under Malky and also Annis you have now ignored several times the fact that we were there after the first day of the season.

Dont let facts get in the way of the truth though eh :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:26 am

The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:50 am

CraigCCFC wrote:The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.


Yes well paid proffessional players I might add whose job it is to play their best for their employer......and the fans.Sometimes I wonder if they care as long as they get their over inflated wages every week.After that game id have had them all in the following day and give them a shovel each and get them digging a drainage ditch.........maybe they would appreciate their position and money more then.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:58 am

Makes me chuckle when people go on about the 10 proffesional players he was left with in his first season like its a negative.

The small pool of players he was left with were some of the best in the championship for their positions ie: Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Super Kev.etc.etc.

A new managers dream I would say as he didnt have to get rid of the dead wood before he could bring in his own players, he could bring them in straight away.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:58 am

Denzil wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.


Yes well paid proffessional players I might add whose job it is to play their best for their employer......and the fans.Sometimes I wonder if they care as long as they get their over inflated wages every week.After that game id have had them all in the following day and give them a shovel each and get them digging a drainage ditch.........maybe they would appreciate their position and money more then.


Malky had broken their spirit with his negative tactics.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:11 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Denzil wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.


Yes well paid proffessional players I might add whose job it is to play their best for their employer......and the fans.Sometimes I wonder if they care as long as they get their over inflated wages every week.After that game id have had them all in the following day and give them a shovel each and get them digging a drainage ditch.........maybe they would appreciate their position and money more then.


Malky had broken their spirit with his negative tactics.


would that be the same negative tactics that beat man city and swansea.......the same ones used by chelsea to win the champions league......or maybe real madrid to beat barcellona in the spanish cup final.....or greece to win the european championship or italy to win 2 world cups.
Look it went pear shaped at the end and it was not all one mans fault is all im saying.And he derserves a liitle more respect than I feel he is getting.
Its all about opinions and ill take yours on board. :ayatollah:

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:27 am

CantonJack wrote:Love how quick people are to abuse Malky.

Two faced bastards :thumbright:


Ive been trying to find where anyone has abused Malky, just reading peoples opinions. Malky will always be highly regarded with us City fans but like it or not he could not take us any further and I honestly believe he should have walked earlier as the situation was never going to get better. If it wernt for his stance against Tan then the fans would have turned on him a long long time ago.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:30 am

Denzil wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Denzil wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.


Yes well paid proffessional players I might add whose job it is to play their best for their employer......and the fans.Sometimes I wonder if they care as long as they get their over inflated wages every week.After that game id have had them all in the following day and give them a shovel each and get them digging a drainage ditch.........maybe they would appreciate their position and money more then.


Malky had broken their spirit with his negative tactics.


would that be the same negative tactics that beat man city and swansea.......the same ones used by chelsea to win the champions league......or maybe real madrid to beat barcellona in the spanish cup final.....or greece to win the european championship or italy to win 2 world cups.
Look it went pear shaped at the end and it was not all one mans fault is all im saying.And he derserves a liitle more respect than I feel he is getting.
Its all about opinions and ill take yours on board. :ayatollah:


Yes those same negatives that meant we didnt score and barely created any chances in 5 away games to Villa, Norwich, Palace, West Ham and Stoke.

The same negative tactics that meant were out of sight by the half hour mark against Newcastle and Southampton at home this season.

Those same negative tactics that have brought us hardly any home wins in 2013.

Yes those ones Denzil.

I respect what he did in getting us out of the championshiop albeit with a huge transfer kitty and paying premiership wages to championship players.

But i totally disrespect what he has done this year with the money he had and the shit he has left us in.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:24 am

Denzil wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Denzil wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The players showed what they thought during the Southampton game......the pivotol game when Malky needed them more than ever.


Yes well paid proffessional players I might add whose job it is to play their best for their employer......and the fans.Sometimes I wonder if they care as long as they get their over inflated wages every week.After that game id have had them all in the following day and give them a shovel each and get them digging a drainage ditch.........maybe they would appreciate their position and money more then.


Malky had broken their spirit with his negative tactics.


would that be the same negative tactics that beat man city and swansea.......the same ones used by chelsea to win the champions league......or maybe real madrid to beat barcellona in the spanish cup final.....or greece to win the european championship or italy to win 2 world cups.
Look it went pear shaped at the end and it was not all one mans fault is all im saying.And he derserves a liitle more respect than I feel he is getting.
Its all about opinions and ill take yours on board. :ayatollah:



Denzil

the games you highlight man city and swansea were won by set pieces which to be honest seemed to be our only threat at the time. I think teams realised that and tightened their defences accordingly even if it bordered on assault to stop us.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:51 am

Look im not looking to agree or disagree with anyone, im not claiming to be an expert, I just feel the man has not had the credit from some corners (no pun intended) that he deserved.All managers make mistakes, even the best ones.....But some seem to get away with it.Ones like good old harry rednapp, the man always touted for every job, even the england job, who spent millions at portsmouth on some dross on over 50k a week......but nothing said.........or the 45 million he wasted trying to keep QPR Up....and failed.
I wish Malky had gone a few games before he did, because the tan issue was only going to end one way....the money mans way, but it grinds on me how everybody now seems to want to tarnish the good work Malky done for us.Now ill admit he made some mistakes but it seems lots of people wont admit that other parties were responsible for our dip in form as well.

Re: ' Malky Mackay '

Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:54 am

Denzil wrote:Look im not looking to agree or disagree with anyone, im not claiming to be an expert, I just feel the man has not had the credit from some corners (no pun intended) that he deserved.All managers make mistakes, even the best ones.....But some seem to get away with it.Ones like good old harry rednapp, the man always touted for every job, even the england job, who spent millions at portsmouth on some dross on over 50k a week......but nothing said.........or the 45 million he wasted trying to keep QPR Up....and failed.
I wish Malky had gone a few games before he did, because the tan issue was only going to end one way....the money mans way, but it grinds on me how everybody now seems to want to tarnish the good work Malky done for us.Now ill admit he made some mistakes but it seems lots of people wont admit that other parties were responsible for our dip in form as well.

Nobody mentioned Redknapp cos it wasnt our clubs money he was wasting.....portsmouth have f all to dowith us